Hi Bubs,thank you so much will look into that to-day BUBS
Go to http://www.mundia.com/ and register as a member (it is free)
After logging in click on "Find People" at the top of the page.
Enter his full name and then click through to the family trees which have been submitted. There are photos there.
It seems to be the same person - born c1898 Muckatah, Victoria, died December 1961 at Coolamon (registered 1962).
Debra :)
lease please please anyone out there related to or have any information on Edward
He was my Grandfather ans sadly my mum and her sister never met hi i have he army record
he was born to James Cain and Maria Augustus Cain he did serve in the first war and and i do believe he was born in Coolamon i am just after 1 picture i promised my mum before she died i would keep looki
Jamjar I believe he was married to Minnie Hylatt and they had 2 girls that passed away very young .
He then met my Grandmother and had 2 girls unfortunately he was not married to my nan
Bubs
my mums sister wrote a book on her life and all her faters details of his war years were in that and i never got in touch till years after ,Bubs
i am not sure if i will follow much further but at least i can tell my children who their g/father was
I am looking for Albert Edward CainBubs
bornn 8th july 1896 or 1899
died 24th october 1946 buried Rookkwood not sure what denomination
This Albert CAIN possibly had a brother Herbert CAIN who also enlisted. Addresses and relatives are a match.
http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/items/3184246/
He misbehaved terribly but came good in the end and was awarded the Military Medal for gallant and conspicuous devotion to duty.
He married in England while serving and the details are on page 13 of the service record. He says his father was Peter CAIN, an engineer.
Letters in Albert's service record show that he was in NSW in 1928 and 1938.
Bubs if you think that this may be your man from the information that you have, then we could probably puts our heads together and find out who he was.
I think it might be one of those families with some complicated relationships and would be a lot of work if he is not the right one.
Debra :) this is a very hard one to crack will be back online in full in 3 weeks
I am looking for Albert Edward Cain bornn 8th july 1896 or 1899Bubs
he was born to James Cain and Maria Augustus CainBubs
Birth in VictoriaCando
CAIN Albert Edward
Father James Mother Maria BUERCKNEL [Should be BUERCKNER]
At Katamatite 1898 Reg#4151
Albert s number was 3259A and in the book it says he was buried in Rookwood cemetery died 1946
I surmise that Bub's Albert was married to Lottie BLANCHFIELD who died in 1938.
The Sydney Morning Herald
Tuesday 4 October 1938
CAIN-October 3, 1938, at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital. Charlotte Frances Cain (nee Blanchfield) aged 32 years. Melbourne papers please copy.
Burial in Rookwood RC section.
CAIN Albert aged 50
Buried: 26/10/1946
Plot: SEC*M2*14**261
C of E, RookwoodJM
Section 10, plot no. 2191
Charlotte CAIN, buried 4 Oct 1938.
Cando I think we have established that this was not the right Albert. Bubs' Albert was just 'Albert', not 'Albert Edward'. This Albert Edward that we were looking at earlier married in NSW, had a family and is buried there with his wife.thank you i realize that now i was in mixed emotions all along
Debra :)
Agh, so may I presume that Bubs book has already demonstrated that the AIF chap 3529A who enlisted July 1915, Melbourne is definitely the right chap ?
Does that mean the 1946 death registered Rozelle, NSW is NOT the right chap ?
Cheers, JM
yes it is the right one my mum told me he died the year before i was born and she also told me he had injury to his toes
Bubs
Bubs would you agree to type up all the information about Albert CAIN in your aunt's book. It is often the small details that help break down brick walls.yes it was Albert Edward i had a feeling all a long some thing was amiss Bubs
You mention you have attempted to contact Albert's family with no result. Was it the family of Albert Edward CAIN?
Cando
Bubs you obviously wish us to help you but as we don't know the name of your grandmother or mother it makes it a tad difficult. A couple of us have identified who we think is your mother but we haven't posted her marriage or death. You have on previous posts stated that ELLERY was a family name.yes i will send and ask my brother to send me the book my Mums name was Betty Cain she married an Ellery and my Aunts name was Victoria she married a Mahon
I again ask are you prepared to type up all the information about Albert CAIN published in your aunt's book.
I have spent a lot of time trying to sort out the CAIN births in Victoria. Both a Bridget CAIN and Caroline CAIN had illegitimate children registered and perhaps there may have been more that weren't.
I can certainly understand why didn't receive any response from the Coolamon CAIN [family. They are obviously not connected at all.
Cheers
Cando
The birthplace of Caroline DAVIS/BARTLETT nee CAIN was Geelong on both marriage records.
Essie
Other deaths registered with the same parents named:
Patrick CAIN, died 1928, aged 66
Ctina ERASMUSON, died 1934, aged 74
Debra :)
Debra
I sent a PM to Bubs with records of the Aunts marriages and death.
The birthplace of Caroline DAVIS/BARTLETT nee CAIN was Geelong on both marriage records.
No births listed on the VIC cd to Thomas CAIN and Mary GRAHAM.
Essie
Thank you Bubs. You have confirmed what a couple of us had found. Are you prepared to give us your grandmother's name as we may be able to locate she and Albert on the electoral rolls.Yes my grandmothers name was Linda May Harmer nee dent she was born in Lithgow Nsw on the 25-12-1905
Let's hope the information about Albert in the book is helpful.
Cheers
Cando
Thomas CAIN the gardener at Belmont/Geelong died 19 Apr 1870 aged 39
Reg #4210
Buried Geelong Eastern cemetery
Born KILK Ireland
Father named Patrick and mother named Bridget WHELAN.
Essie
Thank you Bubs. You have confirmed what a couple of us had found. Are you prepared to give us your grandmother's name as we may be able to locate her and Albert on the electoral rolls.Yes my grandmothers name was Linda May Harmer nee dent she was born in Lithgow Nsw on the 25-12-1905
Let's hope the information about Albert in the book is helpful.
Cheers
Cando
Sorry to be jumping around on this thread. I have also made progress with Thomas CAIN and his family but will post what I have found later.yes that is my mums and Victorias mum she was born in Lithgow and passed away in LithgowThank you Bubs. You have confirmed what a couple of us had found. Are you prepared to give us your grandmother's name as we may be able to locate her and Albert on the electoral rolls.Yes my grandmothers name was Linda May Harmer nee dent she was born in Lithgow Nsw on the 25-12-1905
Let's hope the information about Albert in the book is helpful.
Cheers
Cando
Bubs perhaps you have misunderstood my question....who was Betty and Victoria CAIN's mother ie your maternal grandmother? Was it Lottie [Frances Charlotte BLANCHFIELD]?
Is this your Linda? More confusion!! There is no birth registered in 1905/6.
4310/1907
DENT Linda M
Father Henry I Mother M
District Kogarah
Marriages, however is this the 1907 birth as the bride would be c15 years old.
9832/1922
HARMER George T
DENT Linda M
District Rockdale
12349/1932
MORGAN Lionel E
DENT Linda M
District Bathurst
and
Death
40681/1965
MORGAN Linda May
Father Harry Mother Martha May
District Lithgow
Some certificates are really needed.
Cando :)
Linda's birth was registered in 1907 so possibly born 25 Dec 1906. You didn't mention her two marriages.I know now that it was albert edward cain that married minnie aylett and lost 2 children not albert cain moms dad
Birth
7887/1901
HARMER George T
Father Edward Mother Maria
District Temora
Death
39400/1967
HARMER George Thomas
Father Edward 67 years at Burwood
So Linda had a relationship with Albert CAIN in the late 1920's and then married Lionel Ernest MORGAN in 1932.
I can't see a divorce to 1930 - limit of online indexes
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=16
So your late mother married an ELLERY and then a McMILLAN. Have I got it right now :)
You mentioned that Albert CAIN and his ?wife had two children who 'died young'. Are you referring to his relationship with Lottie [Charlotte Francis BLANCHFIELD]? I can find no marriage for Albert to Lottie and possibly they didn't marry as Lottie may have been still married to Albert Victor WHITEFIELD/WHITFIELD - he died in Melbourne in 1945 aged 58 years Reg#1388.
Bubs have you purchased Albert CAIN's 1946 death certificate?
Cando :)
and yes my mom married jr ellery and then leonard mcmillan i need to just wipe Albert Edward Cain from This whole Project his mather was James and his Mother Maria BubsLinda's birth was registered in 1907 so possibly born 25 Dec 1906. You didn't mention her two marriages.I know now that it was albert edward cain that married minnie aylett and lost 2 children not albert cain moms dad
Birth
7887/1901
HARMER George T
Father Edward Mother Maria
District Temora
Death
39400/1967
HARMER George Thomas
Father Edward 67 years at Burwood
So Linda had a relationship with Albert CAIN in the late 1920's and then married Lionel Ernest MORGAN in 1932.
I can't see a divorce to 1930 - limit of online indexes
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=16
So your late mother married an ELLERY and then a McMILLAN. Have I got it right now :)
You mentioned that Albert CAIN and his ?wife had two children who 'died young'. Are you referring to his relationship with Lottie [Charlotte Francis BLANCHFIELD]? I can find no marriage for Albert to Lottie and possibly they didn't marry as Lottie may have been still married to Albert Victor WHITEFIELD/WHITFIELD - he died in Melbourne in 1945 aged 58 years Reg#1388.
Bubs have you purchased Albert CAIN's 1946 death certificate?
Cando :)
Bubs have you purchased Albert CAIN's 1946 death certificate?
May I please ask where the number 3259A is recorded. I ask this because on NSW BDM death certs for the era up to around 1955, when a chap who had served during WWI died (in NSW) THEN his AIF number would be stamped on the NSW BDM registrar's ledgers... Then when NSW BDM issues an historic certificate that AIF number can be found on the upper left hand corner of their certificate....JM
Mary Jane CAIN
died 9 Dec 1892
This is incredible i have to thank all you people for your help if only Albert's army records were not on breuckners they have taken it all down now or i just cant find it i will have to let my cousin know i just can't thank you people enough BubsQuoteMary Jane CAIN
died 9 Dec 1892
Typo...should be 1891.
CAIN Mary
Parents unknown
At East Melbourne Hospital 1891 23 years Reg#16661
Perhaps you may like the following for your records
Australian Electoral Roll
1903
CAIN Bridget 1 St Andrews Street, North Melbourne Tailoress
CAIN Sarah 23 Sackville Street, Collingwood Tailoress
DAVIS Caroline 14 Merritt's Place Melbourne HD
DAVIS Edward Robert 14 Merritt's Place Melbourne Labourer
1904 Sands & McDougall Directory
HICKEY John 1 St Andrews Street, North Melbourne
1915 Sands & McDougall Directory
BARLETT Mrs Caroline 234 Madeleine Street, Carlton
1919
DAVIS Edward Robert 234 Madeline Street, Brunswick Labourer
DAVIS Ethel Louisa 234 Madeline Street, Brunswick Factory Hand
1924
DAVIS Caroline 172 Mitchell Street, Brunswick North HD
DAVIS Edward Robert 172 Mitchell Street, Brunswick North Labourer
DAVIS Ethel Louisa 172 Mitchell Street, Brunswick North Tobacco worker
CAIN Ellen Eva Gredgwin Railway Station HD
CAIN Herbert Gredgwin Railway Station Railway employee
1931, 1936, 1942, 1949,
CAIN Ellen Eva 110 Collier Crescent Brunswick HD
CAIN Herbert 110 Collier Crescent Brunswick Railway employee
1954
CAIN Ellen Eva 110 Collier Crescent Brunswick West HD
CAIN Herbert 110 Collier Crescent Brunswick West Railway employee
CAIN Mervyn 110 Collier Crescent Brunswick West
Cando :)
Bubs Albert CAIN's digitised WW1 service record is on http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspxno i can't i was told he was buried in rookwood and died in 1946 that is why i have been mixed up Bubs
I thought you had a copy of his service files.
Can you please answer our questions about Albert's death certificate.
I have sent you a pm
Cando :)
May I please ask where the number 3259A is recorded. I ask this because on NSW BDM death certs for the era up to around 1955, when a chap who had served during WWI died (in NSW) THEN his AIF number would be stamped on the NSW BDM registrar's ledgers... Then when NSW BDM issues an historic certificate that AIF number can be found on the upper left hand corner of their certificate...