RootsChat.Com
Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: TERIPAT on Thursday 11 October 12 07:29 BST (UK)
-
I am looking for information regarding Henry & Alice Williams (nee Varty)
They were married in 1882 at Narrabri and moved to Rockdale and then the Balmain area. They had 9 children one of whom was my great Nana Frances Jane, Alice died in in 1932 in Canterbury and I know that her and Henry had been separated due to WW1 correspondence with three of their sons signing up, and one killed in action.
Firstly I am unable to find out when or where Alice was born she has three sisters & two brothers all with Thomas & Frances Varty (Fanny Wilson) as parents but her birth is not recorded. Her father Thomas died in 1871 and her mother remarried to a man named Albert J Penley but maybe I am missing something.
Also I cannot find a record of Henry's death all I know for sure is that he had at least one brother and he was a blacksmith at Narrabri when they met. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any information anyone may have .
-
HI
I found this on NSW BDM
Surname Wilson Female born no 4543/1861 mother Fanny reg Armidale
Muss
-
Hi there,
Do you have a copy of (or transcript of) the 1882 Narrabri marriage?
Cheers, JM
-
Hi there,
NSW ER 1903, THE GWYDIR, polling at NARRABRI
There are quite a few listing with the surname WILLIAMS; the street addresses were not listed on this roll, but these two may help:
Alice WILLIAMS, of Narrabri, domestic duties
Henry Thomas Mandly WILLIAMS, of Narrabri, postmaster
I should stress, there is nothing on these rolls to indicate if these two were related in any way to each other.
The 1882 marriage at Narrabri #5780
I wonder if Henry T M Williams death was registered at North Sydney in 1934 …. Parents indexed as Henry and Helen… #19803
Cheers, JM
-
Thank you Muss I never thought to see if Frances may have had Alice before they were married, so that explains that mystery thank you.
Majm I don't have a copy of the transcript of their marriage unfortunately. Some how I can't see Henry being the postmaster, his eldest son was Henry Claude .M and on his death notice it gives Henry's second initial as W. but I am not sure if that is correct either. I know at one stage he was at Yass that was between 1900 and 1916 but that is about all I know. I might have to bite the bullet and order a copy of their marriage certificate or something, that should give his parents names, shouldn't it. Thanks for all your help Teri
-
The 1882 mc may NOT have all the details re parentage that are so vital for family history buffs.
BUT .... here's a thread that I did up re how to overcome the hurdles IF there are blanks on the cert (or the transcript)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,546609.0.html
Cheers, JM
-
Thanks, so much JM. very interesting and helpful information you have in that post, this will help me out heaps I am sure. Henry has been a very frustrating man to pin down, so more than likely his m c will be missing information.
Just while I think of it, the name Lovell as a first name is that commonly changed to something else? this is one of his sons that is also proving elusive, I have no idea.
Thank you for your help
Teri
-
Hi
Lovel is listed on this
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15864621?searchTerm=varty thomas&searchLimits=
Muss
-
LOVELL died in QLD
WILLIAMS, LOVELL GERALD MILTON
Date 31 Jan 1961
Registration 001126
Page Number 3089
Sue
ADDING Parents are not listed
born New South Wales aged 71 years
-
:) Hi!Have you found Alice Williams (nee Varty?) I was excited to read your old post because you are the first person I have found who is interested in the VARTY and PENLEY families. Albert James PENLEY was my g-g-grandfather and although I have his marriage certificate it does not give me his or Fanny's parents' names (though I have found out about Thomas & Fanny but it took a bit of searching!) J. PENLEY is my brick wall.