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Does anyone have access to the Tenbury Parish Records who can look up?
(1) The marriage of Thomas Swift 1800-1815 to (spouse unknown, X Y).
(2) The christening of a son, Thomas 1814-1816 to the above couple.
(3) The death of Thomas Swift (senior) 1815-1820.
(4) The remarriage of (X Y) to Matthew Parker 1815-1820.
Any of these elements would go towards demolishing a brick wall for me.
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The christening of a son, Thomas 1814-1816 to the above couple
Who did the above Thomas marry and when?
I cannot see an 1841 or 1851 entry matching that birthyear with a Tenbury birthplace
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From the IGI but not Tenbury
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JS6F-SBK
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NTBX-PSC
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Hi CaroleW,
Thanks for your replies.
His marriage certificate shows that Thomas Parker married Elizabeth Miles 15th Dec 1850 in Tenbury. His father's name is given as Thomas Swift (occupation farmer). His age is given as 36 (or at an outside chance the script could be taken as reading 38).
His sister (or most probably half-sister) Ann Parker married James Horspool 26th Nov 1857 in Ribbesford. Her father's name is given as Mathew Parker. I know that Ann and Thomas Parker are so connected as she appears as Fanny Horspool in the same London address as Thomas Parker (the son of the Thomas Parker above) in the 1991 census as his aunt with birthplace Tenbury.
Thomas Parker appears on the '51, '61 & '71 censuses. On each occasion birthplace given as Tenbury. Ages given as 36, 47 and 55 respectively.
It would be great if the if the IGI reference were this Thomas but the 1813 date seems a touch early.
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The christening of a son, Thomas 1814-1816 to the above couple.
If he married as Thomas Parker - won't any baptism be under that name and not Swift
I am guessing but suspect he was the illegitimate son of a female Parker who then married - but not to a Thomas Swift.
Thomas may just be his biological father
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Hi CaroleW,
Thank you for your continuing interest.
The scenarios that you outline are all possibilities.
A correct solution will be indicated by one or more of the items (1) through to (4) in my original posting coming up trumps.
Regards, lupins
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Hi lupins
To answer the 4 points you raised:-
1) There is only one marriage in the Worcs Marriage Index which fits your criteria as having taken place between 1800 and 1815 and it took place at St Andrews, Worcester on 19 January 1810 between Thomas Swift and Elizabeth Morris.
2) The above would fit with CaroleW’s find of a baptism of a son Thomas to Thomas and Elizabeth in the same parish on 9 May 1813.
Have you considered that Thomas might have come from Burford, Shropshire or one of the other nearby parishes outside Worcestershire? Burford is only just over a mile from Tenbury.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/nearby?CCC=WOR,GRIDREF=SO590670,DISTANCE=5,PN=Tenbury
The following link gives an explanation as to where the nearby parishes records are held. http://www.tenburyteam.org.uk/familyhistory/
3) Checked National Burial Index - No Worcestershire death of a suitable Thomas Swift between 1815-1820. (NBI includes Tenbury records).
4) Checked Worcs Marriage Index. No re-marriage in Worcestershire for a Matthew Parker between 1815-1820.
HTH
Nemo
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Hi Nemo,
Thank you for all the work that you have put in on this.
It looks as though I'll have to search original/transcript Tenbury parish records and if no luck there work outwards through adjacent parishes.
The St Andrew Worcester connection, also, warrants further investigation.
Very best wishes, lupins.
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Hi lupins
The bad news is that the Tenbury Parish Register which covers the dates that you are interested in, is in a very poor state due to water damage. This means that possibly two thirds of all entries on the film of the Parish Register are unreadable for the early 1800s. The parchment pages are shrivelled at the top, so the year has been obliterated or is very faint. The water damage can be over more than 2/3rds of the page. I’ll see if the Malvern Family History Society managed to transcribe the legible ones, http://www.mfhs.org.uk/ as it’s possible to search their database for free at The Hive.
Sometimes the copy of the BMD’s known as the Bishop’s Transcript (BT) exist, but as there isn’t a copy at Worcester, so I assume that Tenbury BT’s have not survived.
Nemo
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Hi Nemo,
Thank you very much for your help which is much appreciated.
Lupins
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Hi lupins
Just to confirm that the MFHS database doesn’t have a transcription of the Tenbury parish baptismal records for the dates that you wanted.
The parish register for St Andrews, Worcester has two entries for the baptism of Thomas Swift the son of Thomas Swift, a soldier and his wife Elizabeth. The first on 28 March 1813 and the other on 9 May 1813.
HTH
Nemo
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Hi Nemo,
Thanks for the the news re Tenbury transcripts and Thomas Swift.
It seems that a copy of the Bishops transcripts for Tenbury is with the London Family History Centre. Temporarily, these records are hosted at the National Archives in Kew. I may well take a trip down there in the near future as there are quite a few things I need to look up as well as the Tenbury records.
I am not sure how the Thomas Swift Worcester baptism might fit in; hopefully, the Kew trip will throw some light on the matter.
Thanks once again for your help.
Regards, Lupins