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Title: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: lmcarlos on Sunday 07 October 12 19:39 BST (UK)
Hi:

I am looking for a cemetery lookup/photos.  I am unsure which cemetery they may be in Brighton.
Frances Hannah Small 1855-1930
Fredrick Samuel Pusey 1854-?

Any help would be appreciated.
Gwilanne
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: sillgen on Sunday 07 October 12 20:33 BST (UK)
I think we may need more information than that.  Brighton has several cemeteries.     Have you googled them to see if they do a look up service?
Did this couple marry?    In that case we need to be looking for a death of Frances Pusey not Small.  Did they leave wills?
Andrea
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: sillgen on Sunday 07 October 12 20:36 BST (UK)
If you look at www.freebmd.org.uk you will see deaths for both of them.  Frances in 1930 and Frederick in 1937.   Both in Brighton district but that does cover quite a large area.
Andrea
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: lmcarlos on Sunday 07 October 12 21:00 BST (UK)
Thanks for the death dates, I haven't been able to find a online look up as of yet.  I have tried to find out what cemetery they are in with no luck.  I live in Canada.  I do know they are not Catholic.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: sillgen on Monday 08 October 12 08:43 BST (UK)
The website I gave you is free and has good coverage of BMDs.   Probate details for Frederick in 1937 show he lived at 7 Southdown Road Brighton and died at 250 Elm Grove Brighton - maybe a nursing home?  He did not leave much money.
£98 16s 8d
Using the address given you may be able to discover which church he might have attended.   If he was cremated there are large crematoria in Brighton too.
Southdown Road still exists.   Not sure about Elm Grove.
Andrea
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: petmas on Monday 08 October 12 09:49 BST (UK)
I'm pretty sure 250 Elm Grove was the workhouse now Brighton General Hospital, last house on the RHS is 244 then the hospital.
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: omega 1 on Monday 08 October 12 11:25 BST (UK)
Hello Gwilanne

Welcome to Rootschat :)

Hope i explain this ok.

The Workhouse & 250 Elm Grove is the same place.It was given this address in 1904.
You can find this info & more from google uk,just put in address.

Kind Regards

omega

Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: lmcarlos on Monday 08 October 12 17:20 BST (UK)
This is odd because they were actually a very well to do family and in the probate record William Kinch is his son in law.  He was married to his daughter Gertrude.  I haven't researched this family for several years, so the probate record is new to me.  See in Ontario, Ancestry lists the actual death registration with 90% of the time listing the cemetery.  I have asked several family members but all they tell me is they are buried in Brighton.

thanks for the info, the workhouse disturbs me so I found this
Brighton General Hospital

Brighton General Hospital, once Brighton Workhouse
Image of Brighton General Hospital originally taken for the Hanovernet website

Originally a workhouse
By Tim Carder
Built by George Maynard in 1865-7, the buildings now occupied by the Brighton General Hospital were administered by the Board of Guardians for the Parish of Brighton as a workhouse and infirmary until 1 April 1930 when their responsibilities passed to the public assistance committee of the county borough council. (They had been used as a hospital during the First World War, however.) The former Poor Law Institution became known as the Elm Grove Home, and on 1 November 1935 the Brighton Municipal Hospital was established in most of the buildings. (For details of the building's life prior to this time see "Brighton Workhouse at Elm Grove".)
http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/page_id__5412.aspx

So it was a workhouse until 1930 and made into a hospital in 1935.

g
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: lmcarlos on Monday 08 October 12 17:37 BST (UK)
There are 3 cemeteries near the hospital

City Cemetery
Brighton Borough Cemetery
Brighton and Preston Cemetery

The Council of Brighton will do look ups but they are 7 pounds per person which works out to be almost 14.00 dollars canadian which is a little steep when it comes to paid lookups.  I am guessing that Brighton doesn't have "look up" books like other countries. For instance Aberdeen Scotland has Memorial Inscription books that can be lookup for each cemetery and is not an online database where you can enter the name and it will show what cemetery etc.  Canada has something similar and there is an ongoing project to photograph every gravestone.

I guess then my next step would be is to try and find an obit.
g
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: petmas on Monday 08 October 12 18:38 BST (UK)
If you can find a local they will look up info for visitors- I was trying to find a military grave there a few years ago and one of the workers radioed the office and came back with location,  dates etc and even offered to take me to it The 3 cemeteries you mention are in fact all at the same place- almost opposite the hospital  and I would imagine have a common office and ground staff. woodvale crematorium is also on the site
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: lmcarlos on Monday 08 October 12 19:03 BST (UK)
Yeah I am trying the message boards but no luck so far.
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: petmas on Monday 08 October 12 19:04 BST (UK)
Forgot to mention the crem was opened in 1930 so also an option
Title: Re: Cemetery Lookup Photo
Post by: lmcarlos on Wednesday 24 October 12 22:54 BST (UK)
Hello:

I have confirmed that Frances Hannah Small Pusey d1930 and Fredrick Samuel Pusey D1937 are buried in the Brighton and Preston Cemetery and I am told there is a marker there.  If someone in Brighton would be kind enough to take a photo for me, it would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
Gwilanne