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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: nkbauer on Sunday 07 October 12 16:55 BST (UK)
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Relatives were married here in 1868 by the Rev. Wm Robertson. Can anyone tell me more about this church? Does the church still exist?
Thank you for your help,
Nan
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I don't think that was the address of the church
1871 census shows a number of families living at that address
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When I googled the church and address I found it listed in the 1866 Glasgow Post Office Directory The same minister was listed as for the wedding in 1868-Rev Wm Robertson. Could it have been a small congregation that met in a private home?
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Weddings at that time didn't take place in the church, usually in the bride's home or the home of the minister
What was the family name?
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1871 wm robertson is listed as clergyman also at that address
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William Allan and Catherine Clark married there 27 Nov 1868 according to Scotlandspeople.com. Maybe, as you said, they were married at the minister's home rather than the church. I had just wondered what kind of church it was.
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What info does it give about the church on the certificate?
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The 1866 Directory gives 20 Hopetoun Place as the house address of Rev Robertson with the Church address given as Havannah (possibly Havannah Street)
The 1857 map of Glasgow shows 2 church buildings in Havannah Street - one in ruins and the other is shown as UP Church (United Presbyterian). Nothing of that area remains today as it was where they demolished the University/College buildings and surrounding houses to make a rail way station and goods yard.
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Associate Ante-Burgher Church in Havannah Street is mentioned here
http://www.glasgowhistory.co.uk/OrdsCalton.htm
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Associate Ante-Burgher Church in Havannah Street is mentioned here
http://www.glasgowhistory.co.uk/OrdsCalton.htm
Given the age of the Anti-Burgher movement this may have been the church building marked "in ruins" on the map in 1857
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Thank you Falkyrn and Sancti for your help. UP makes sense as other family members were Presbyterian.
Kind regards, Nan
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The Anti Burghers were Presbyterian as well (so is the Church of Scotland) - The history of the Church of Scotland since the reformation has been fractious and many groups split off from the Established Church at various periods. Some rejoined it at different periods some stayed away and united with other break away factions but the basic tenets of all of their forms of worship remained Presbyterian.
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Thank you for the explanation Falkyrn. I did wonder about the Anti-Burghers. I don't know much about the Presbyterian church in Scotland. My grandmother, daughter of the above mentioned couple said she was Presbyterian when she came to Canada but attended a United church once she married here.
Nan
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Very interesting as I too have family married by "William Robertson Minister Elders Church" with a location given as 20 Hopetoun Place in 1870.
So do we think this was the Ministers house?
thanks
A
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Church weddings were the exception rather than the rule until about the turn of the 19th/20th centuries. It was customary for a wedding ceremony to be held in the bride's parents' home. If, however, she had no parents or she was getting married a long way from their home, she might get married in her employer's house, or in the manse, which is the minister's house.
As there is evidence to confirm that Rev Robertson lived at this address, yes, your relative got married in the manse.
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Thank you.