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Hi All,
I'm working on a One Name Study of the BOXALL name. This includes: BOXELL, BOXILL, BOXHALL, BOXHILL, etc. I already have an extensive amount of data but always looking for new information.
All enquiries for help are answered.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie,
I don't have any Boxhall's in my tree but I did go to school with a Gloria Boxhall (born abt 1955). She had a brother Stephen (born abt 1963), they used to live in Ashingdon Essex. I believe the family originally came from London. I cannot remember their parents names now.
They moved to the Isle of Wight, in about 1968/1969. We lost touch shortly after.
If you already have her details I'd love to get in contact again.
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i have a florence boxhall born 1870 and married to an arthur h west he was a baptist minister he is my first cousin twice removed they had two children do you have them in your tree , anne
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i have a florence boxhall born 1870 and married to an arthur h west he was a baptist minister he is my first cousin twice removed they had two children do you have them in your tree , anne
I don't appear to have a Florence born in 1870. Do you have a place of birth or marriage for her?
Regards
Ronnie
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September 2, 1897 in St Albans , Hertfordshire, is what i have for her, Anne
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Hi Ronnie:
I have Boxall's in my family line - my mother's side. I know very little about this side of the family but am willing to give you what I have...maybe it might connect to your tree...here's hoping! :)
Grandmother was Winifred E. Boxall possibly born approx. 1900 in Woolwich, Kent. I think her father was George Boxall born Pulborough [maybe Fittleworth] Sussex and mother Anna H. [maiden name unknown] born Chichester, Sussex. If I do have the correct George Boxall, his father was Charles Boxall and mother Jane [maiden name unknown] and he had the following siblings: Charles; James; Harriett; Ernest Albert and another sister, name unknown. This information has been found on the 1881 and 1901 Census and seems to fit the little information I do have on Winifred.
Winifred married Reginald Walsh in Croydon (?) approx. 1918-19 resulting in my mother's birth in March, 1920 in Croydon. Winifred left her husband when my mother was approx. 18 months old. I do not know if my grandparents divorced or just took up common-law relationships with new partners. This whole part is quite a mystery as no one ever mentioned Winifred around my mother...she was raised by her father's side of the family. My mother was 36 years old before she met her mother and little family information was shared. Since both women are now deceased, I have little to work with.
If any of this seems to connect to you, it would be a pleasure to hear from you.
All the best....Jewell
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Dear Jewell,
Here is a small amount of information that may help you.
I believe this is your Grandmother:
Winifred Annie BOXSHALL b. Jun qtr 1892 Woolwich 1d 1231 (FreeBMD)
I suggest you obtain a copy of her birth certificate to confirm her parents names this would be your starting point.
If you have the correct parents for her then here are some details on those:
George BOXALL m. Anna Harriett YEATES Jun qtr 1893 Farnham, Surrey.
Notice the difference in birth year for Winifred and marriage yr for George and Anna. I do not believe this is the correct parentage for your grandmother. Plus the distance from Farnham, Surrey to the Woolwich, Kent area.
I look forward to assisting you further.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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September 2, 1897 in St Albans , Hertfordshire, is what i have for her, Anne
Dear Anne,
I believe this may be your Florence:
Birth: Mar qtr 1877, BOXALL Florence, Hambledon 2a 134
(FreeBMD)
If you could obtain a copy of her birth certificate it would confirm her parents and I probably will be able to help you further.
Do you have a copy of her marriage certificate, that may give her age and father's name which you can compare with the birth certificate.
Here is the marriage entry if you don't have the marriage certificate:
Marriage: Sep qtr 1897, BOXALL Florence, St. Alban's 3a 1029
I look forward to being able to assist you again soon.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hello Ronnie,
A car hire and taxi firm called Boxall provided my wedding car in 1973. I think they may still be trading under that name. They were based in Hitchin, Hertfordshire. A branch of the St Alban's family perhaps?
It may be worth searching the wonderful trade directories site at www.historicaldirectories.org/
Good luck.
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i have her marriage certificate 2 sep 1897 and from that i went back to her parents ,william charles boxhall born 1838 marrying caroline ealy 1864 but cant find a connection before then i do believe there was a name change of sorts somewere along the line but no more ,best wishes anne
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G'day
I am researching my great great grandmother's family. She was Mary BOXEL [born c 1782 in Ham, Gloucestershire, married in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire in 1808 to William BROWN of LLangattock Lingoed and died April 1863 in Grosmont, Monmouthshire].
There are Gloucestershire BOXALLs listed in the IGI as coming from the Awre/Blakeney area which is not far from Ham on the other side of the River Severn.
If anyone has some information on any Gloucestershire BOXEL/BOXELL/BOXALL families I would appreciate their getting in touch.
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G'day
I am researching my great great grandmother's family. She was Mary BOXEL [born c 1782 in Ham, Gloucestershire, married in Skenfrith, Monmouthshire in 1808 to William BROWN of LLangattock Lingoed and died April 1863 in Grosmont, Monmouthshire].
Hi,
Although I do have Gloucestershire BOXWELL's [BOXEL's] in my database I must be honest with you and say I haven't worked on that area. I checked for your Mary but do not have any baptisms for Ham listed and no other likely candidate.
We believe that the BOXWELL's from GLS are a completely seperate origin to the West Sussex, Surrey and East Hampshire BOXALL's.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Ronnie
Thanks for your quick response.
Should I be looking for BOXWELL as well as the other variations? Is their much research information on this surname [BOXWELL]?
I have stumbled across a Gloucestershire town of that name which I will check out when I have exhausted the obvious online databases.
I am trying to find access to an online researcher/database that will confirm my Mary's birth in Ham [or nearby Berkeley] which I got from a hard to discipher, handwritten, 1851 census page. It gave her age as 69 which, if accurate, makes her birth date c1782.
I'm happy to see there are other researchers studying this family name even though not in this location. Do you know of any who are?
Regards
Bernard
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Ronnie
Thanks for your quick response.
Should I be looking for BOXWELL as well as the other variations? Is their much research information on this surname [BOXWELL]?
I have stumbled across a Gloucestershire town of that name which I will check out when I have exhausted the obvious online databases.
Hi Bernard,
There is a group in USA who have been working on the BOXWELL line from Gloucestershire. They have a mail list on Rootsweb also a Message Board on Rootsweb. I do follow this line but have just not worked on it. I would suggest that you do look at the BOXWELL spelling. I believe this name originates in the town you mention or the town is named after early BOXWELLs. Let me know if I can assist you further.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Our tree includes Boxell from Brighton but unfortunately we have no information about them. We are looking for ancestors of Eliza Boxell born about March 1876 in the Brighton area and believed to be the daughter of David ( bc 1849 Brighton) and Eliza Boxell (bc 1851 London). Is she included in your study? We would be interested in information about any Sussex Boxells.
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Our tree includes Boxell from Brighton but unfortunately we have no information about them. We are looking for ancestors of Eliza Boxell born about March 1876 in the Brighton area and believed to be the daughter of David ( bc 1849 Brighton) and Eliza Boxell (bc 1851 London). Is she included in your study? We would be interested in information about any Sussex Boxells.
Yes I do have this family in my files.
Eliza BOXELL b 11 Dec 1875; bpt 18 Sep 1881 St Peter's Brighton; d/o David BOXELL and Eliza HAMMOND; besides Eliza they had four boys:
Thomas b 19 Aug 1871
David Henry b 7 Oct 1873
George bc 1877
John bc 1879
all the children were baptized at the same time 18 Sep 1881.
Although at this time I don't have anymore on these children I do have more on the David.
David bpt 28 Jan 1849 St Nicholas, Brighton. m. 24 Jul 1870
David's parents: David BOXELL and Eliza WOOLLEY
Can you tell me how Eliza BOXELL connects to your line.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie,
Do you perhaps have any information about Boxalls that immigrated from England to Southern Africa around the late 1800's ?
Thanks yb
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Hi Ronnie,
Do you perhaps have any information about Boxalls that immigrated from England to Southern Africa around the late 1800's ?
Thanks yb
Dear yb,
I have tried to find details of the BOXALLs in South Africa but so far have had very little success. If you have details of your BOXALLs and have BMDs that relate back to England then I could probably help. I would really like to get a handle on the South Africa BOXALLs. Please let me know what you have and what you need to know and I will see if I can help. I have one entry for Gladstone, South Africa in my database but I'm afraid that is all for now.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie,
Do you perhaps have any information about Boxalls that immigrated from England to Southern Africa around the late 1800's ?
Thanks yb
Dear yb,
I have tried to find details of the BOXALLs in South Africa but so far have had very little success. If you have details of your BOXALLs and have BMDs that relate back to England then I could probably help. I would really like to get a handle on the South Africa BOXALLs. Please let me know what you have and what you need to know and I will see if I can help. I have one entry for Gladstone, South Africa in my database but I'm afraid that is all for now.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
Hi Ronnie,
Thanks for replying so promptly. Unfortunately at present I don't have much info on them at all. I only know my grandfather who lived in King Williamstown in South Africa was called Alfred. His father came out with settlers to South Africa in the late 1800's and married a German lady whom he met on the boat coming out.
I thought I would take a shot in the dark hoping that perhaps you had some information of someone coming out here as there are so very few Boxalls in South Africa.
Thanks for your reply and I would appreciate it if you do come across any info on them.
Regards
YB
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My g.g.randmother was SARAH BOXALL b.1824 d.1900 at Wrecclesham,Farnham, Surrey m,3April 1847 to William Wilkinson. Her father was William Boxall.
Is there a link? Gerald
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My g.g.randmother was SARAH BOXALL b.1824 d.1900 at Wrecclesham,Farnham, Surrey m,3April 1847 to William Wilkinson. Her father was William Boxall.
Is there a link? Gerald
Hi Gerald sorry for the delay in replying to your query.
Sarah d/o William BOXALL and Ann CRAWTE
They had eight children.
William and Ann m. 30 May 1814 Farnham
William bpt10 Apr 1791 Frensham s/o Daniel BOXALL and Ann MARSHALL
I have this line going back to the early 1700's. Let me know if you would like further details.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie, You have made my day! It is my birthdaytoday and finding the Boxall's is wonderful present. Please send any more information you have . I have the Wilkinson's line back to 1688 with gaps, and includes the family in Canada. Sarah's grandson my g.uncle Jesse worked for CPR in Winnipeg. The current members live in Calgary area. Let me know if you want that line.
My wife writes to a friend in Toronto and we have just seen a DVD tourist film of the city.
Thanks a lot.
Gerald
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Hi Ronnie
I have some Boxall info approx 1880's and the son went to South Africa around Cape Town. The Uk one was William Nathaniel Boxall. Any connections? PM and I can see if I have any more info.
Thanks
John Rowley
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Hi Ronnie
I have some Boxall info approx 1880's and the son went to South Africa around Cape Town. The Uk one was William Nathaniel Boxall. Any connections? PM and I can see if I have any more info.
Hi John,
Not sure if I responded to your message yet. Do you have more details on William Nathaniel BOXALL? I would love to have the details of the BOXALL family who had a son go to South Africa would you send me more details please.
Thanks
Ronnie
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Hi rooniem
I think I emailed you offlist with some info recently, but can do it again as have a little bit more info.
Cheers
John Rowley
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Hi there Ronnie,
I have Boxall's on my husbands side. Ihave Annie Edith Boxall born 1824 Guildford Surrey, arrived in Australia in 1848. Her parents were Henry Boxall born 1790 Chichester, Sussex and Ann Westbrook born 1788 Guildford. They married 1808 Guildford. Other children were Emma, George, Sophia, William, Henry, Matilda and Jesse. I think most of these kids were born in Guildford, not entirely certain though.
1841 census this family was living in Castle St., Guildford. Henry 53, Carpenter, Ann 45, Ann 15, Matilda 12, Jesse 8. Have put in request for 1851 census info.
If this family connects to yours, or you have any extra info, I'd love to hear from you.
Kind regards,
Jennean
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Hi Jennean,
This line has been extensively worked on. Although it does not connect to my own BOXALL line it is part of my BOXALL One name Study.
Henry was one 11 children of Jesse BOXALL and Patience PUTTICK of Kirdford, Sussex. Henry was the only child born in Chichester.
Most of Henry's children were born in Stoke near Guildford, Surrey. I have this family back to about 1720's in Kirdford.
Let me know what additional details I can send you.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie
I have a BOXALL in my family - this line is in Kent
Mary Boxall (b c1820) married William Harris (1815)
They are both buried in St Margarets Chuchyard in Lee in Kent.
I think (though cant prove it yet) that Mary's parents were Edward and Rebecca ? and that they had at least one other daughter Caroline (b 1814 in Orpington)
Caroline then married a John Venn and they had 4 children - William 1831 George 1834 Edward 1847 Emily 1852
I would love to knwo more on this line as I am trying to prove a link between Mary and Caroline (as sisters) but so far Im having no luck
Anna x
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Hi Ronnie
I have a BOXALL in my family - this line is in Kent
Mary Boxall (b c1820) married William Harris (1815)
They are both buried in St Margarets Chuchyard in Lee in Kent.
I think (though cant prove it yet) that Mary's parents were Edward and Rebecca ? and that they had at least one other daughter Caroline (b 1814 in Orpington)
Caroline then married a John Venn and they had 4 children - William 1831 George 1834 Edward 1847 Emily 1852
I would love to knwo more on this line as I am trying to prove a link between Mary and Caroline (as sisters) but so far Im having no luck
Anna x
Hi Anna,
The details for Caroline are correct but her sister Mary was born in 1815.
How certain are you of your Mary's birth?
Do you have details of her marriage to William HARRIS?
More information on Mary would be a lot of help and the Marriage certificate would help.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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I am not at all certain as the info was gained from the 1841 census when ages were rounded up and down.
I have found no marriage for William and Mary either so no certificates or other real proof!!! (pooey)
but it is nice to be able to confirm that Caroline and Mary were sisiters
Anna x
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Hello!
I am descended from James Burgess Boxall (1815-1882) who I think - I have been unable to find a record of their marriage and they stated they were unmarried on the 1881census although head and wife -married Margaret Sophia Aston. They had Emily Eliza born 1844, married Joseph Smith ( and /or Mr Dickinson?);Sarah in 1847 who married a Mr Harris, had 4children , and 'ran off to America';Margaret born 1850, married John Samuel Webb; Mary born 1856 married Benjamin Hughes and had two children Gladys and Hugh; and Alfred born who married Annie ? and had 3children Arthur, Harold and Hilda.
James was born in Cranleigh and lived in Kingston on Thames. I would love to know how he acquired the Burgess bit of his name...I have a miniature of Emily if any of her descendants are interested. I have more info on Gladys and Hugh and their offspring - my line...
Any info about James Burgess Boxall a builder in Kingston gratefully received..
Panjela
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Burgess is likely to be a female maiden name (normally it is the mothers, but in my family I have found it to be the grandmothers)
Best wishes
Anna x
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Hello!
I am descended from James Burgess Boxall (1815-1882) who I think - I have been unable to find a record of their marriage and they stated they were unmarried on the 1881census although head and wife -married Margaret Sophia Aston. They had Emily Eliza born 1844, married Joseph Smith ( and /or Mr Dickinson?);Sarah in 1847 who married a Mr Harris, had 4children , and 'ran off to America';Margaret born 1850, married John Samuel Webb; Mary born 1856 married Benjamin Hughes and had two children Gladys and Hugh; and Alfred born who married Annie ? and had 3children Arthur, Harold and Hilda.
James was born in Cranleigh and lived in Kingston on Thames. I would love to know how he acquired the Burgess bit of his name...I have a miniature of Emily if any of her descendants are interested. I have more info on Gladys and Hugh and their offspring - my line...
Any info about James Burgess Boxall a builder in Kingston gratefully received..
Panjela
Hi Panjela,
All the children were registered under the name BURGESS
Emily Eliza BURGESS b. Sep qtr 1844 Kingston 4 196
Sarah Sophia BURGESS b. Jun qtr 1847 Kingston 4 206
Margaret Maria BURGESS b. Mar qtr 1849 Kingston 4 250
Alfred James BURGESS b. Dec qtr 1850 Kingston 4 235
Mary Jane BURGESS b. Dec qtr 1855 Kingston 2a 167?
all the children marriages are registered as BOXALLs with BURGESS as a middle name.
This leads me to believe that either James was actually a BURGESS and changed his name to BOXALL or he did not marry Margaret and her last name is BURGESS and not ASTON as you indicate.
I do not know anything more about James BURGESS BOXALL other than his and Margaret's death's.
Might I suggest you purchase one of the children's birth certificates and check the details. I've followed the family through the Census' from 1851 where they are listed as BOXALL.
Please keep me informed about what you find I would love to be in on your discoveries.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Dear Ronnie, Margaret was definitely an Aston born! If James was born Burgess there is a birth at Cranleigh of the right date to John and Sarah Burgess on IGI Jan1st 1816. As you probably know, the three James Boxalls born at Cranleigh are 1775, 1783 and 1820 - so very unlikely to be him...
So, why would he have changed his name? Was his mother Sarah a Boxall? How do I go about finding out? Have you also been unable to find a marriage cert for James and Margaret?
What info do you have on the Cranleigh Boxalls?
I think we have been in touch before, when I was doing some preliminary research on my great great grandparents. I have since 'properly' done five other sets of gggpts and will be hitting the Boxalls seriously next. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated.
Panjela
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Dear Ronnie, Margaret was definitely an Aston born! If James was born Burgess there is a birth at Cranleigh of the right date to John and Sarah Burgess on IGI Jan1st 1816. As you probably know, the three James Boxalls born at Cranleigh are 1775, 1783 and 1820 - so very unlikely to be him...
So, why would he have changed his name? Was his mother Sarah a Boxall? How do I go about finding out? Have you also been unable to find a marriage cert for James and Margaret?
What info do you have on the Cranleigh Boxalls?
I think we have been in touch before, when I was doing some preliminary research on my great great grandparents. I have since 'properly' done five other sets of gggpts and will be hitting the Boxalls seriously next. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated.
Panjela
I believe you are correct in that James was baptised James BURGESS jan 1st 1816, I've looked at microfiche and extracted all the BOXALLs and there is no James BOXALL bpt in 1816. The next move would be to find the marriage of his parents, this does not appear to be in Cranleigh. Maybe finding his parents in the 1851 Census would throw answer some question only if to answer where were his parents married?
Sorry I don't have any other answers for you at this time. Please do keep me informed on what you find out.
Thanks
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie
I have just found that I may be descended from Sarah Boxell, born about 1795 in Stockbridge. She married Charles Read, possibly in Stockbridge, and then seems to have gone to Salisbury. I found a SB on IGI born 1793, with girl siblings - parents John and Jane. Do you have any info on this family?
Thank you
Helen
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I have a Boxall line starting with:
Edward Boxall b C1796 in Winchester, Hampshire he married a Mary Brixton b C1806. They lived in CAMBERWELL in 1841.
My direct ancestor was his son Robert b.C1837 m Jane Gardener from Sunderland then Co. Durham, now T & W.#
Ring any Christmas Bells??
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I have a Boxall line starting with:
Edward Boxall b C1796 in Winchester, Hampshire he married a Mary Brixton b C1806. They lived in CAMBERWELL in 1841.
My direct ancestor was his son Robert b.C1837 m Jane Gardener from Sunderland then Co. Durham, now T & W.#
Ring any Christmas Bells??
I have finally received the evidence that you probably already had that confirms that Robert is the s/o Edward and Mary and that Mary's last name was BRIXTON. But I can not work out your jump to Winchester. Do you have a marriage for Edward and Mary in Winchester that you could give me the details? On the 1841 Census Edward states Yes to the question about birth in Surrey, and in 1851 he states he was born in Surrey. I know this is not definit if, like his son Robert, he has lied about his birth origins.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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To the best of my knowledge I have the following; Hannah Boxall born ? Mar 1787 and bapt.25Mar 1787 in Tillington to Edward and Jane? Boxall, who married Thomas Puttick 18 Apr 1803 in Tillington. The question marks are in because the micro fiche is not very clear.
Regards,
Frenchie.
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To the best of my knowledge I have the following; Hannah Boxall born ? Mar 1787 and bapt.25Mar 1787 in Tillington to Edward and Jane? Boxall, who married Thomas Puttick 18 Apr 1803 in Tillington. The question marks are in because the micro fiche is not very clear.
Regards,
Frenchie.
Hi, I checked my database and I have Hannah b.12 Mar 1787 daughter of Edward BOXALL and Jane GREENFIELD. But I do not have a marriage for her, at least I had not linked her to the marriage with Thomas Puttick in 1803 but it is a likely match.... there is another marriage between a Hannah BOXALL and Thomas PUTTICK in 1819 in Fernhurst I wonder if there is any connection between the two marriages. For the second marriage one or both had to have consent of the parents yet they were both of age.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hello Ronnie.
N0.2 Tillington P.R: Thomas Puttick,bachelor of this parish and Hannah Boxall spinster of this parish married in this church by Banns 18 Apr 1803. My descendant Sarah Puttick born 1820 in Tillington gives parents as Thomas and Hannah. I will have a further look in Tillington records for any other info. I have no info. on the other marriage.
Regards,
Frenchie.
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Hi
I have a Hannah Boxall b abt 1795, Lodsworth, West Sussex, England daughter to Stephen Boxall and Mary Burse. Do you have any info on Stephen Boxall as I haven't been able to find his parents yet. Stephen was born around 1753 in Lodsworth.
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Hello Sunnysmile, No other info on Boxalls other than what I posted to Ronnie. I see you have SMITHERS in your family. I have a Rosaline Maud PITCHER who married a W.SMITHERS. Rose's parents were Francis and Maud nee MAY from Stone,Kent if you are interested.
Regards,
Frenchie.
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Hi
I have a Hannah Boxall b abt 1795, Lodsworth, West Sussex, England daughter to Stephen Boxall and Mary Burse. Do you have any info on Stephen Boxall as I haven't been able to find his parents yet. Stephen was born around 1753 in Lodsworth.
Hi Sunnysmile,
The Stephen BOXALL bpt 1753 in Lodsworth I have a burial for him Oct 1st, 1759 Lodsworth.
The Stephen BOXALL that married Mary BURSE was Baptized 29 May 1757 s/o Edward BOXALL & Ann BAKER. I have more details on this family.
I would be interested in who Hannah BOXALL married.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hi,
My late mother-in-law was Antonia Ivy Boxall; the family lived in King William's Town, South Africa. I am not sure of the father's name, but there were three daughters - Antonia Ivy, Doris and Edith. The only connection to the U.K. I have is a story about a Boxall relative who played the violin at a command performance for Queen Victoria in London; his violin was a Stradivarius (it turned out to be a fake when we took it to Sothebys!) - this violin was later donated to a museum in East London, South Africa.
I have not looked in to how they came to be in South Africa; I think they must have migrated sometime during the 1850's or later. I do know that the father married a lady of German descent, one of the many German settlers who came to this area of South Africa at that time.
Ivy Antonia married Ronald Nettleton Gordon and they had two children, Raymond Garth and Margaret.
Cheers,
Tisy
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Hi,
My late mother-in-law was Antonia Ivy Boxall; the family lived in King William's Town, South Africa. I am not sure of the father's name, but there were three daughters - Antonia Ivy, Doris and Edith. The only connection to the U.K. I have is a story about a Boxall relative who played the violin at a command performance for Queen Victoria in London; his violin was a Stradivarius (it turned out to be a fake when we took it to Sothebys!) - this violin was later donated to a museum in East London, South Africa.
I have not looked in to how they came to be in South Africa; I think they must have migrated sometime during the 1850's or later. I do know that the father married a lady of German descent, one of the many German settlers who came to this area of South Africa at that time.
Ivy Antonia married Ronald Nettleton Gordon and they had two children, Raymond Garth and Margaret.
Hi Tisy;
Thank you for posting a message here. I am finding the BOXALLs in South Africa very difficult to research. I have various contacts all who are possibly related to each other being descendants from one BOXALL who emigrated in the 1800's and had quite a large family of mainly boys. The trouble is knowing that I have not been able to really workout the descendants other than the fact there are numerous BOXALL descendants for this one man. I'm guessing that maybe your Antonia Ivy BOXALL is also connected.
If you can possible find more information on this BOXALL family I would love to work out a connection to a BOXALL family in England. Thank you for the details you have passed onto me.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie,
I will have a look at the death notices in the South African archives - if we can find any this will give us a heap of info on each individual. I have a researcher in Cape Town who will go to the Archives and get a transcript for $10 Australian per death notice. Get back to you later.
Cheers,
Tisy
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Hi again Ronnie,
I have found what I think might be your original man -
DEPOT: KAB (Cape Town Archives)
SOURCE: MOOC
TYPE: LEER
VOLUME No. 6/9/117
SYSTEM: 01
REFERENCE: 3170
PART 1
DESCRIPTION: BOXALL, HENRY. DEATH NOTICE
STARTING: 1866
ENDING: 1866
The name of the researcher in Cape Town is Graham Lloyd and his email is lacey[at]yebo.co.za
I think this might be the place to start. The death notice should list his place of birth, his parents, his spouse and children, plus where he died and whether he had property.
I have taken a note of every other Boxall death notice from every archive in South Africa and am in the process of typing up a list - it is beginning to show the beginnings of family groups. There were 105 entries for Boxall in the Archives, some of which may be of interest to you later on - divorces, court cases, property transactions etc.
The prevalent names are Henry, Arthur, Edward, George, Edwin, August, Albert, William, Percival, Stanley, Herbert, Vincent, Geoffrey and Hugh.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Tisy
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Hi again Ronnie,
I have found what I think might be your original man -
DEPOT: KAB (Cape Town Archives)
SOURCE: MOOC
TYPE: LEER
VOLUME No. 6/9/117
SYSTEM: 01
REFERENCE: 3170
PART 1
DESCRIPTION: BOXALL, HENRY. DEATH NOTICE
STARTING: 1866
ENDING: 1866
The name of the researcher in Cape Town is Graham Lloyd and his email is lacey@yebo.co.za
I think this might be the place to start. The death notice should list his place of birth, his parents, his spouse and children, plus where he died and whether he had property.
I have taken a note of every other Boxall death notice from every archive in South Africa and am in the process of typing up a list - it is beginning to show the beginnings of family groups. There were 105 entries for Boxall in the Archives, some of which may be of interest to you later on - divorces, court cases, property transactions etc.
The prevalent names are Henry, Arthur, Edward, George, Edwin, August, Albert, William, Percival, Stanley, Herbert, Vincent, Geoffrey and Hugh.
Hi Tisy,
You are wonderful. You are the first person I've had contact with who could come up with any sort of information for South Africa. I don't want to duplicate what you have already done, silly both of us paying for the same documents.
Please let me know what you are willing to share with me and I will assist with information from my extensive database. It may be easier to share information by using our regular emails address. I can be reached at:
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Percival is not a very common name in the BOXALL circles so this could indicate a possible family the same with Stanley and this would be the first Vincent and I only have one other Geoffrey.
As the information builds it is interesting to see family links coming to light also. I look forward to working with you as you work on your BOXALL connections.
Thank you.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie,
Will email the info shortly. I look forward to working with you and any other Boxall researcher.
Cheers,
Tisy
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Dear BOXALL researcher
Hope you can use this information
In the earl 1950's my family lived next door in Young Street Neutral Bay NSW AUSTRALIA to the Boxall family
Frank ,Jess and daughter Joan.
Sadly Jess now dec
I would be happy to help you with search in Australia if I can
Turramurra
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So sorry
Turramurra
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Hi Ronnie
My gggg grandmother was a Sarah Boxall B 1788C Petersfield, Hampshire. She married Charles Whiting on the 25/2/1813 in Petersfield. I wonder if you have ever come across her?
Sue
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Hi Ronnie
My gggg grandmother was a Sarah Boxall B 1788C Petersfield, Hampshire. She married Charles Whiting on the 25/2/1813 in Petersfield. I wonder if you have ever come across her?
Sue
Hi Sue;
Sorry for the delay in replying. I have Sarah in my database but as of yet have not worked on that particular BOXALL family. Could you send me more details on her Marriage as my Petersfield information ends in the very early 1800's and as of yet I have not had the opportunity to glean further information from the Internet nor have I managed to purchase many of the Hampshire Registers on Microfiche. Would you by anychance have easy access to the Petersfield records and be willing to assist me in my research?
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie,
Thanks for your message. Unfortunately, I don't live near enough to make use of the Hampshire records office. The only details I have of Sarah Boxalls marriage to Charles Whiting are that they married by banns at St Peters, Petersfield on the 25/2/1813. Witnesses were George Whiting and Harriet Schoell. Sarah was from Petersfield. I think I have also e-mailed you on another site. So, apologies for that.
Best Wishes Sue.
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Hi ronniem
Looking for info on a BOXALL family from Brighton pre 1880
John BOXALL married Elizabeth Jane Evelyn JEFFERIES in Jun 1877 - East Preston W/ Sussex [waiting for wedding certificate]
Ran the "Chain Pier Restaurant" in Brighton [Census 1881]
Any info would be much appreciated
cheers russell
ps. this is my partners G,G/P
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Hi ronniem
Looking for info on a BOXALL family from Brighton pre 1880
John BOXALL married Elizabeth Jane Evelyn JEFFERIES in Jun 1877 - East Preston W/ Sussex [waiting for wedding certificate]
Ran the "Chain Pier Restaurant" in Brighton [Census 1881]
Any info would be much appreciated
cheers russell
ps. this is my partners G,G/P
Hi Russell;
This John is a mystery, he is in the 1881 census but then I can't find him. When you have the wedding certificate can you send me the details, especially the name of his father. Maybe with the name of the father I can figure out which John this is.
Sorry I don't have anything else at this time.
Ronnie
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Hi Ronnie,
I have a Boxall right out on the far edges of my tree! It is Mary, born about 1925 and married to a Stanley J Guess, in 1949 in Surrey North Western, wherever that is!
Does she figure in your archive?
Regards,
Ron
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Hi Ronnie,
I have a Boxall right out on the far edges of my tree! It is Mary, born about 1925 and married to a Stanley J Guess, in 1949 in Surrey North Western, wherever that is!
Does she figure in your archive?
Regards,
Ron
do you have a copy of the marriage certificate? If so can you give me all the details especially the father's name and witnesses, and where the couples were living at the time if the marriage. If I have those details I have a better chance of working out which Mary is yours.
Kindest regards
Ronnie
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No, sorry Ronnie. I just found the reference on Ancestry.com
Ron
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Hi,
I have a Charles Frederick Boxall, born ? death: 1934 who lossely wanders into my line in South Africa.
I couldn't tell you what put as I only came accross them while looking for my lot ;)
If the name helps you, shout as I have bits more with that family.
The real boxall I would like to know about is Mary Boxall from Frensham, born about 1744 ish and marrys William West.
Any guidance??
Pancake
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G'day Captain,
I too am trying to locate a Mary BOXALL,BOXEL/BOXWELL/... who, according to the '51 census was born in Awre, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire about 1782.
I thought you may stumble across her in your research for your Mary BOXALL and would very much appreciate your getting in touch if you do, if you haven't already. I'll keep an eye out for yours.
Regards,
Bernard
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Hi Captain P,
I have Charles Frederick Boxall as the 7th child of Edward James Boxall b. 1825 and Auguste Charlotte Wilhelmina Pahl. Anything you have on him would be most welcome. I have a transcription of Edward James' Death Notice; if you would like the details I could send them to you privately, or post them here.
Cheers,
Tisy
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Tisy,
contact me and I can send you all I have, it was pieced together while trying to find my great Aunt who buggered off to South Africa (I didn't put it together............long story)
Pancake.
Bernie, I'll keep my eyes peeled for you, let me have a contact plz
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Hi Captain P,
I've forgotten how to make contact privately, so could you contact me? I can then give you my email address.
Cheers,
Tisy.
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Hallo Tisy
I'm interested in Stanley Boxall as I think he is my maternal grandfather. His father was Albert Alphonse Boxall.
He was married to Annie Edith Aldridge in the UK then went to South Africa - I believe it was to Jo'burg but I'm not sure.
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Hi Bunnykin,
The only possible connection I have is Arthur Stanley Boxall b. 1901, son of August Henry Boxall and Bertha Emlie Louise Pautz; do you have dates for the migration?
This is what I have on Arthur Stanley's ancestor's migration to S.A. -
Edward BOXALL (29), tailor from Middlesex, travelling to Stephen WHITEHEAD, Grahamstown, sailed on the Indian Queen,, dep Liverpool 20 May 1858, arr Port Elizabeth 23 July 1858
Our Boxalls seemed to start off in the Eastern Cape - I know some branches of the family did move north, so could be connected.
Have you contacted the one-name study at all?
Cheers,
Tisy
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Hello!
I am descended from James Burgess Boxall (1815-1882) who I think - I have been unable to find a record of their marriage and they stated they were unmarried on the 1881census although head and wife -married Margaret Sophia Aston. They had Emily Eliza born 1844, married Joseph Smith ( and /or Mr Dickinson?);Sarah in 1847 who married a Mr Harris, had 4children , and 'ran off to America';Margaret born 1850, married John Samuel Webb; Mary born 1856 married Benjamin Hughes and had two children Gladys and Hugh; and Alfred born who married Annie ? and had 3children Arthur, Harold and Hilda.
James was born in Cranleigh and lived in Kingston on Thames. I would love to know how he acquired the Burgess bit of his name...I have a miniature of Emily if any of her descendants are interested. I have more info on Gladys and Hugh and their offspring - my line...
Any info about James Burgess Boxall a builder in Kingston gratefully received..
Panjela
If Panjela is still around, I'd be interested in making contact (or if anyone else has a way of making contact I'd be grateful). I am a descendant of Emily Eliza Burgess who married John Hudson Webb - it seems two of the sisters married into the Webb family. Their daughter, Emily Eliza Webb, married into the Winter family and their son, my great-grandfather, immigrated to South Africa where the family remain.
Cheers,
Cazo
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Message for Bunnykin
I have a Stanley Herbert Boxall (c1882) married to Annie Edith Aldridge (c1881) - married 11/04/1903 in Ealing, London.
Stanley's father was Albert Alphonse Boxall. Annie's father was Edgar William Aldridge.
Stanley and Annie had 3 children, Hilda Boxall (c1906), Winifred Grace Boxall (29/11/1907 Croydon) and Edgar Stanley Boxall (c1910 in Croydon). Stanley left England in 1917/1918 to go to South Africa (he left Annie and the children in England) and they never heard from him again.
Winifred Grace Boxall married Frank Rowlands and they had 4 children, Marian (c1928), Rowland (c1930), Owen (c1932) and Janet (1938) all born in UK.
Strangely Janet married Rodney Clark (born in Durban, South Africa) but they married in UK.
Rodney Clark is my connection to the Boxall family.
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Bunnykin
Not sure if this could perhaps be your Stanley Herbert who left UK for South Africa in about 1917 leaving Annie Edith (nee Aldridge) and the children in UK. Found this on the South African Archive website. If this is him, then seems he remarried in South Africa.
DEPOT TAB
SOURCE MHG
TYPE LEER
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 4839/67
PART 1
DESCRIPTION BOXALL, STANLEY HERBERT.
STARTING 19670000
ENDING 19670000
REMARKS SURVIVING SPOUSE AGNES MAUD BOXALL (BORN HAMILTON).
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Hi Bunnykin,
Just as a matter of interest, my late mother-in-law, Ivy Antonia Boxall had a brother, Arthur Stanley Boxall b. 1901. Their father was August Henry Boxall b. 1875 who was the son of Edward James Boxall b. 1825 in Brighton, Sussex. I wonder whether your Albert Alphonse was related in view of the name Stanley?
Cheers,
Carol
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Hi Cazo, For some reason I have only just seen your message. I'm not certain we are talking about the same family...where have you got your information from? Can you go back any further than Margaret Maria and her sisters? Their mother Margaret Maria, nee Aston came from the Midlands. Do get in touch agin and I can send you more info if we are on the right track..
panjela
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Hi Panjela,
Since my last message I've made some more discoveries and I don't think we are talking about the same family anymore. I have found that the Emily Eliza Webb I am descended from was the daughter of John Hudson Webb and Emily Frances Bennett.
Sorry for the confusion.
Although I am interested in your 'Webb' family - any chance they originally came from Blackwater, Hampshire and were carpenters?
Cazo
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Hi ronniem - I have a John Boxall who, in 1778 married a Margaret Connor, who had given birth to an illegitimate son, Ralph, in Lodsworth; he was christened March 13, 1774. The marriage may have taken place in Duncton, the witnesses Henry and Elizabeth Boxall. I'd be very grateful for any info tying John to your Lodsworth Boxalls as I have been unable to find a link.
It's the Connor family I'm tracing and the illegitimate birth has brought me to a halt. I'm assuming that the Lodsworth christening ties Maragaret to that village and maybe that's where she met John. Duncton is significant as all subsequent family members (in direct line to my own) lived in the village. By the way, my own mother was a Boxall!
regards
crowflies
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Hi Ronnie,
Will email the info shortly. I look forward to working with you and any other Boxall researcher.
Cheers,
Tisy
Hi Tisy and Ronnie
My wife's grandfather was Alfred Boxall from Kingwilliam's Town - his wife was Lillian - we do not have any more than that and would appreciate any assitance in this regard
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Hi ronniem
Looking for info on a BOXALL family from Brighton pre 1880
John BOXALL married Elizabeth Jane Evelyn JEFFERIES in Jun 1877 - East Preston W/ Sussex [waiting for wedding certificate]
Ran the "Chain Pier Restaurant" in Brighton [Census 1881]
Any info would be much appreciated
cheers russell
ps. this is my partners G,G/P
Hi Russell;
This John is a mystery, he is in the 1881 census but then I can't find him. When you have the wedding certificate can you send me the details, especially the name of his father. Maybe with the name of the father I can figure out which John this is.
Sorry I don't have anything else at this time.
Ronnie
Hi Ronnie,
Finally found some time to get back into this tree.
1877 married in registery office in the district of East Preston County of Sussex
29th May 1877
John Boxall - Elizabeth Jefferies (Note saying "Described in this certificate and licence as Elizabeth Jefferries")
Both Full age.
He is Bachelor & Clerk. She is Spinster --------.
Residence Him Royal Sea House Hotel Worthing. Her 168 Edward St Brighton
Fathers Names and Profession John Boxall Gentleman and John Jefferies Licensed Victualler.
In the precence of Mary Jefferies and Mark of Sarah Melliton(?) X
A note, 168 Edward St is basically next door to where John Boxall Snr had his Bucher shop 173 Edward St
cheers russ