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Title: collier
Post by: yozzer on Tuesday 02 October 12 21:47 BST (UK)
seeking info of parents of Henry D Collier b.1864 Macclesfield Cheshire
Regards,
Yozzer
Title: Re: collier
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 02 October 12 21:57 BST (UK)
1871 census: reference RG10, Piece 2898, Folio 37, Page 21
29 Burton Road, Etwall, Derbyshire

Collier, Edwin  Head  M  24  Brickmaker, b Burton-on-Trent
Collier, Emma  Wife  F  21  b Deadmans Grew, Staffordshire
Dean, Henry D  Cousin  M  7  b Macclesfield

Ancestry have incorrectly interpreted "Dean" as "Ditto".
Is this where you got the name from?
Title: Re: collier
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 02 October 12 22:04 BST (UK)
freebmd has an 1863 birth reg for a Henry Daniel Dean but it was registered in Congleton - not Macclesfield and appears to be with his father Samuel in 1871
Title: Re: collier
Post by: wrjones on Friday 05 October 12 11:23 BST (UK)
Is this a Henry Collier showing in 1891 and 1901 as married to an Emily given as born in differing places in each year?I'm having great difficulty in finding such a marriage?I think it would be better for us to help you if you tell us what you already know.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: collier
Post by: garstonite on Friday 05 October 12 11:47 BST (UK)
seeking info of parents of Henry D Collier b.1864 Macclesfield Cheshire
Regards,
Yozzer

The only record I could find b 1864 Macclesfield - was
Harry Collier b 1864 Macclesfield - with his mother in 1881 census
1 Court 1 Fountain Street
Sutton
Cheshire
Ann Collier aged 46 b Macclesfield 
Harry Collier son aged 17  a gardener b 1864 Macclesfield
Mary A Collier  neice  aged 7 b Macclesfield
Fanny Collier  neice aged 3 b Manchester

Henry - very often was called Harry ...... so I would make a note of this just in case ...
allan
Title: Re: collier
Post by: wrjones on Friday 05 October 12 12:02 BST (UK)
Its not easy I've seen people given variously as born in the Census,in Congleton/Crewe and Macclesfield.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: collier
Post by: wrjones on Friday 05 October 12 12:15 BST (UK)
I'm not finding this Henry Collier living in Sutton Lancashire in 1881,in 1871?

RG11/3739/139/53.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: collier
Post by: garstonite on Friday 05 October 12 15:12 BST (UK)
I'm not finding this Henry Collier living in Sutton Lancashire in 1881,in 1871?

RG11/3739/139/53.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
WRJ
It`s Sutton , Cheshire - not Lancashire ..

Allan
Title: Re: collier
Post by: wrjones on Friday 05 October 12 16:14 BST (UK)
Well its given as Sutton Lancashire on Ancestry.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: collier
Post by: yozzer on Friday 05 October 12 17:32 BST (UK)
Hi! to all.
after a lot of searching the guy i was searching for turned out to be David Henry Dean b.Maccllesfield 1864.
Regards
Yozzer
Title: Re: collier
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 05 October 12 17:37 BST (UK)
The chap I mentioned in reply #1?! ;D
Title: Re: collier
Post by: garstonite on Friday 05 October 12 18:00 BST (UK)
The chap I mentioned in reply #1?! ;D

Love it ...funny old game research isn`t it ?...had a little chuckle then ...
allan
Title: Re: collier
Post by: yozzer on Friday 05 October 12 19:13 BST (UK)
SURE IS!
Title: Re: collier
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 05 October 12 20:50 BST (UK)
Like I said - the original image is quite clearly "Dean".

Just that some muppet thought it looked like "Ditto" and transcribed him as Collier! ::)
Title: Re: collier
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 05 October 12 21:46 BST (UK)
Could this be him?

1881 census: Reference RG11, Piece 2751, Folio 88, Page 8
Newton, Staffordshire

Dean, Henry  Head  M  38  Labourer  b Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire
Dean, Jane  Wife  F  46  b Draycott-in-Clay, Staffordshire
Dean, David H  Son  M  18  Labourer  b Macksfield<sic>, Staffs
Dean, John  son  M  15  Garden Boy  b Hanbury, Staffs
Dean, Thomas  Son  12  Scholar  b b Hanbury
Dean, Frederick  Son  M  10  Scholar  b Hanbury
Dean, George  Son  M  8  Scholar  b Hanbury
Dean, Alfred E  Son  M  6  Scholar  b Hanbury
Title: Re: collier
Post by: yozzer on Sunday 07 October 12 17:22 BST (UK)
Yes! thats the one.
Best wishes
Yozzer
Title: Re: collier
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 07 October 12 17:45 BST (UK)
The rest of the family are here in 1871:
Reference RG10, 2897, 22, 11
Hanbury, Staffordshire

Dean, Henry  Head  M  30  Farmer 26 Acres  b Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire
Dean, Jane  Wife  F  38  b Draycott, Staffordshire
Dean, William  Son  M  5  Scholar  b Hanbury
Dean, John  Son  M  3  b Hanbury
Dean, Thomas  Son  M  2  b Hanbury
Dean, Frederic  Son  M  3 months  b Hanbury
Shenton, Roseanna  Servant  F  12  General Servant


And a marriage:
December qtr 1863
Burton district (which includes Hanbury)    vol 6b, page 501

Dean, Henry
+ and on the same page +
Archer, Jane