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Title: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881 - COMPLETED
Post by: Pyrian2 on Monday 01 October 12 17:32 BST (UK)
Hi

I wonder if anyone can help? I am trying to find out about the death of my 2x Great Grandfather Thomas Stamp who was a machinist living in Cosgrove in the 1870s. I kow that he was working for London & North Western Railways in 1867 as a machinist. He died between 1875-1881 - family story is that it was in a railway related accident, but I haven't been able to find a death certificate, or any record at all of his death or burial.
Could someone please check the burial record for Cosgrove?

As he may well have worked at the Wolverton Works, I suppose it is just possible there may be a burial record for Wolverton as opposed to Cosgrove. I have posted a lookup request on the Buckinghamshire board as well.

Any help or signposting would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Paul Stamp
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: lizdb on Monday 01 October 12 17:36 BST (UK)
When was he born?
There are a few death registrations for those years - have you ruled them all out?
If he worked on the railways he might have been anywhere when the accident happened, not necessarily in his home village
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 01 October 12 17:37 BST (UK)
This might be him?

December qtr 1877
Lutterworth district    vol 7a, page 5

Stamp, Thomas    age 54
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: Pyrian2 on Monday 01 October 12 17:42 BST (UK)
Hi

Thanks - I have, mostly by age or by linking them to another Thomas Stamp alive in that area.

He was born in 1837 in Farthingstone.

Paul
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 01 October 12 17:45 BST (UK)
Judging by the age, this is a better bet?

September qtr 1879
Sunderland district    vol 10a, page 250


Stamp, Thomas    age 42
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: groom on Monday 01 October 12 17:48 BST (UK)
Hi

According to Freebmd there are only 4 possible deaths between 1875 and 1881. If you are certain he was born in 1837, the age of the one who died in Sunderland fits.

1875  Gainsboro aged 59
1877  Hartlepool aged 38
1877  Lutterworth aged 54
1879 Sunderland aged 42
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: Pyrian2 on Monday 01 October 12 18:48 BST (UK)
Thanks all

Unfortunately there's a Thomas Stamp born in 1871 in Co Durham that fits the Sunderland death better!

Thanks anyway
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: groom on Monday 01 October 12 19:18 BST (UK)
Quote
Unfortunately there's a Thomas Stamp born in 1871 in Co Durham that fits the Sunderland death better!

How come? If he was born in 1871 he wouldn't have been 42 when he died in 1879.
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: Pyrian2 on Monday 01 October 12 19:58 BST (UK)
Sorry! I meant 1837 - long day!
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: seahall on Tuesday 02 October 12 21:13 BST (UK)
Hi All.

Paul I have transcribed the M.I.'s for Cosgrove but can not find the file.  ::)

I also have just looked through the graves I have of the Churchyard
for Thomas to no avail.

There were a lot of headstones on the Church wall covered by ivy totally unreadable.

Also may headstones in what most churchyard in our County seem to have now,
a conservation area for wildlife, and although I do try and get as many as
I can a lot are inaccessible.

If no one is able to assist before I can looking up the register I will see if I can
find any reference to Thomas.

Sandy
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: Pyrian2 on Wednesday 03 October 12 16:56 BST (UK)
Thank you SO much for all this help Sandy

- the Thomas Stamp mystery has remained just that for a long time. I keep having a go at it, every now and then, and have always drawn a blank.

Paul
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: seahall on Wednesday 03 October 12 19:19 BST (UK)
Hi Paul.

I went to Cosgrove Church again this morning to see if I could pin point
any graves for the grandparents also to no avail.

The problem with the Parish Registers at the N.R.O. and Library, they only
hold up to 1877 for Burials so if Thomas died around that time we are okay,
if not maybe getting in touch with the Church maybe a good idea.

I went to the Library this afternoon and the Local Studies area was closed  ::) ::) ::).

It seems to be constantly closing without warning and if you telephone to the
Library itself you get a call centre who then call the Library and most of the
time they say they are engaged and could you call back later.  >:(

I will try again later for you.

Sandy
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: seahall on Thursday 04 October 12 23:22 BST (UK)
Okay managed to look at the register today and as there was a daughter
born in 1876 and only one burial noted for 1877 I did not find Thomas's
taking place in Cosgrove so asking the Vicar would be the best option
now.

Sandy
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881
Post by: seahall on Thursday 04 October 12 23:30 BST (UK)
Also in case anyone else may be following the family.

The children of Thomas and Anne were William who seems to
not be seen after 1871 unless of course I am wrong.

Sarah Ann married Ebenezer Butcher in 1896 at Cosgrove

Ellen married Frederick Albert Green also of Cosgrove in
1895 at Cosgrove and moved to Willesdon, London.

Robert Henry married Edith C Corner at Wolverton in 1899
and moved to Tunbridge Wells, Kent.

Kate married George Standen in 1903 and lived in Pembury, Kent.

Sandy
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP - COMPLETED
Post by: Pyrian2 on Sunday 07 October 12 11:16 BST (UK)
Thanks again Sandy!

I will keep looking!
Title: Re: COSGROVE lookup STAMP death/burial 1875-1881 - COMPLETED
Post by: seahall on Tuesday 09 October 12 11:46 BST (UK)
Hi Paul.

I just wanted to add that when I was at Cosgrave the other day a
lovely lady asked what I was doing in the Churchyard and we got
talking especially about the graves that were totally in-accesible in the
lower area of the Churhyard.

The lady gave me her phone number and I arranged to met her yesterday
(at her home, bless her) and she showed me all the recordings that
had been done of the churchyard , un-believable recordings showing
height, width etc besides the inscriptions.

After spending 2˝ hours and a cup of tea I came away with images of
all the information available. I am now trying to get them into some
sort of order as they were 17gbs of black & white
images and need to be cropped, greyscaled, lightened, re-numbered etc.

We in return helped her with some queries she had with her computer.

Therefore I would like also to thank you as without you wanting the
info about Thomas I more than likely would not have gone back to
Cosgrove.

If I should find anything in this information to help further with your
request I will let you know.

Sandy