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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Edna2 on Monday 17 May 10 16:26 BST (UK)
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Looking for any of the Harwood family, Elvetham Winchfield, Hartley Wintney.
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can you pin down the search to say just one century? ;)
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I am constructing a family tree; I knew Doris Harwood and her brother Fred in Elvetham in 1940, and Connie another cousin in Hartley Wintney. My grandfather was Edward (1862 - ?1951) but I am trying to get further back.
Edna 2
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Hi Edna,
Welcome to RootsChat. :)
Are these people likely to be still alive? RootsChat does not encourage posting names and details about living people in order to protect their privacy.
But your grandfather should be a different matter. Was he a Harwood too? Apart from the birth and death dates, have you constructed a basic tree based on the information that you already know? Have you got your grandfather's birth and marriage certificates and found him on the census? If not perhaps someone can help you with that.
Nell
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welcome Edna.
How about this lad as your Grandfather? Looking at a map, Elvetham is just SE of Hartley Wintney itself.
HW was also a big Registration District.
1871 census RG10; Piece: 1233; Folio: 5; Page: 1 Town of Hartley Wintney
enumerated on the same page as the White Lion PH at Hartford Bridge, which I suspect is on today's A30, just north of Elvetham.
Willm Harwood 41 Head of Household born Elvetham: an Agricultural Labourer
Martha Harwood 45 Wife born Frimley, Surrey
John Harwood 14 son born Farnham, Surrey
George Harwood 13 son born Elvetham
Jane Harwood 12 dau ditto
Edward Harwood 9 son Hartley Wintney
Elizabeth Harwood 7 dau ditto
Charles Harwood 5 son ditto
Henry Harwood 3 son ditto
Edward's parents marriage:-
Marriages Mar 1854
HARWOOD William Farnham 2a 71
SMITH Martha Farnham 2a 71
Jumping back to 1851 HO107; Piece: 1680; Folio: 284; Page: 1 Elvetham, Hartley Wintney District, we see Edward's Grandparents:-
all state that born in Elvetham
Chs (Charles) Harwood 47 Head of Household Agricultural Labourer
Hannah Harwood 40 Wife
Charles Harwood 22/7? son
William Harwood 20 son
Jane Harwood 13 dau
Elizabeth Harwood 10 dau
Edward Harwood 7 son
Mary Ann Harwood 5 dau
John Harwood 3 son
As their marriage would seem to be pre-1837, I dont have access to the resources needed to research it in a Parish Register
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by 1901, Edward has married a Mary Ann, and is still in Elvetham with his own family:
RG13; Piece: 1106; Folio: 53; Page: 14 Elvetham Parish (now), Town of Hartford Bridge
Even tho' the household has been enumerated, I cant see the original page on which the Indexed names are based to give you more details ... the last image is Page 12.
Hopefully someone else here will have access to the page via another Census provider
The Index states that they were all born in Elvetham.
Edward Harwood 39 Head of Household born (Hartley Wintney)
Mary Ann Harwood 35 Wife
Rose E Harwood 13
Horace E Harwood 8
Bertie T Harwood 5
Here's Edward's marriage to Mary Ann
Marriages Mar 1887
DENTON Mary Ann Hartley W. 2c 241
Harwood Edward Hartley W. 2c 241
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Thank you all very much; yes, these are all part of my family and I am gradually adding marriage and death dates, so all the information is very useful.
Edna 2
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It looks like Doris was Edward's brother Charles grandaughter :)
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This would appear to be the marriage of Charles & Hannah.
Charles Herrod m Hannah Maynard 23 Aug 1828, Elvetham.
Nell
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I am the Grandaughter of Doris Harwood, who is still alive and living in Elvetham. I have grown up in Hartley Wintney.
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Thanks, both; have only just received messages.
Charles Harwood did mary Hannah Maynard; one son was William, about 1825, whose son Edward (1862) was my grandfather.
Fred Harwood, Lomans Hill, was my grandfather's brother, his wife Sue was my grandmother's sister. I met great-aunt Sue at Lomans Hill during the war, when my mother and I stayed with the Heathers family at Streetend, near aunt Win (Mrs. Levesconte, aunt Sue's daughter).
I now live in the Isle of Wight, where my aunt Rose lived; after her husband died, uncle Son joined her, and I believe he was one of Fred's children. Would you know, by any chance?
Kind regards, Edna
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I will speak to Nan and ask her. She grew up in the house on Loman's hill with her mum Ada and her dad. I will ask his name as I'm not sure, he had a nickname that I know but I'll find out. My nan is one 3, her brothers are Charles and Eric. She lives round the corner from Lomans hill now, she told me the original house she was in isn't there anymore. My friend is the farmer on Elvetham Farm so he takes me there sometimes :) I will speak with her today and find out
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Fred was my great grandfather! My nans Dad!
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Good! I am told there were two Freds, one known as John. There was also Freddy, Doris's younger brother. Doris would be about 75 (?) now, Freddy 72 (?). They were both at Elvetham School, which probably doesn't exist anymore. Mrs. Anderson, the head teacher, lived across the crossroads and Mr. Utting(?) lived next door to the school, the old schoolhouse. I think he was farm bailiff, or factor, or something similar.
Did you know there was a Connie Harwood in Hartley Wintney? She would be about 80, were she still alive.
Rude question: do you have the family's red hair? Win, my father's favourite cousin was known as "Ginger Win"!!
Edna
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"Uncle Son" lived with my Aunt Rose after her husband died (1920s?); he was her cousin and I think he was a Harwood from Lomans Hill. He had lived with my grandparents (Edward and Mary Ann Harwood) in Hartley Wintney before that.
One of the Lomans Hill Harwoods was reistered blind and made baskets at the cottage, another had a damaged right arm and moved to Portsmouth. Can anyone identify any them, please?
Edna
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Hi,
I have been chatting with Edna2, and would like to ask if any of you has an Eileen HARWOOD, Born Jun Qtr 1904, in Hartley Wintney area?
Tim
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Glad to see you got here! ! Edna
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Hi All
MARY ANN DENTON and SUSAN DENTON were sisters and daughters of MICHAEL DENTON and LUCY GOULD. MICHAEL was the brother of THOMAS DENTON my GGGrandfather and they were sons of JOHN DENTON and SARAH COTTERELL.
The ELSON family of Elvetham are also my ancestors and a couple of them married into the HARWOOD family.
Vic Wise
Brisbane Oz
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The Elson family name was still around when I was evacuated to Hartley then Elvetham in 1940, but in Hartley Wintney, not Elvetham.
Mary Ann Denton was my grandmother and Susan my great aunt. I met her in 1941. living at Loman's Hill
My regards to Doris Harwood
Edna
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I have been told that Uncle Son was in fact Fred. the son of Fred!!
Edna
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Hello there,
Just wanted to let you know that Charlie 'Fred' Harwood, Doris' younger brother sadly passed on 25th oct. Reading back on your posts, the man registered blind is my nan's uncle Herbert, hope this helps,
Gemma
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Thank you very much indeed for letting me know this news.
I remember Charlie (at school he was Freddy) very well, Doris being a year or so younger than me and Freddy a year or two younger than her. This was at Elvetham Primary School (if it still exists) at Streetend.
At Streetend 'Aunt Win' had the corner cottage (with a deep ditch, where she kept ducks!) and I think she would have been the daughter of another older Harwood brother, Doris's uncle.
Yes! I had been trying to remember the name but yes, it was Herbert. He was a very quiet, gentle, man; someone had provided a tandem for him, and Win and a few other people took turns taking him for a ride around. He made the most beautiful bicycle baskets which lasted for years and years.
Did you know anything about another Harwood, he had a withered arm and lived in Portsmouth; Win knew him well, I don't think he was her brother, I think he was another cousin.
Thanks again, Edna
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Hi edna2!
I'm happily reading the posts between you and thinking that there is no connection between us when you mention moving to the Isle of Wight! Have you any connections with the Somerset Harwoods who moved to the IoW after 1858. I am trying to work back to the family who lived around Yeovil/Preston (Somerset), father Frederick born in 1838 in Preston, married in Yeovil in 1857 to Mary Ann and produced nine children.
Thanks,
TonyHIoW
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Hello Edna2, I've just found this thread on RootsChat.
My paternal grandmother born 1872 was Eleanor Harwood Hoile. Her mother was Sarah Pearcy Harwood (1850 - 1938). Sarah's father was James Harwood (born Hawley 21 April 1825, died 7 Feb 1872 London). His father was William Harwood (born 1801 Elvetham, died 1885 Hartley Witney). From census information, William spent most of his life as an agricultural labourer at Black Bushes, Elvetham. He married Mary Ann (surname unknown) who was born in Egypt in 1806 and died 1876 in Hartley Witney. William and Mary Ann had 9 children, the earlier ones born in Hawley and the later ones born in Elvetham.
I wonder if this information fits in with your family tree, I would be interested to hear.
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Hi Nickcc
Just for your notes ............
Looking at 1861/71/81
William is consistent in saying he was born Frimley Surrey
His occupations were AgLab, Farm Bailiff, Dairyman
Maybe nothing, in 1881 his dairymaid has surname of Pearse
Cheers
Ray
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Hi,
I have just searched Lomans Hill, Elvetham on Google and have come up with this web chats site and have read a couple of entries re: my Uncle Bunny (known as Son) who lived on the Isle of Wight with his Aunt Rose and a further message re: my Aunt Beddy (Elizabeth Harwood (Betty)) who lived at Lomans Hill. Her sister my Mum (Ellen Phyllis) and us children moved back there for a short while with her in the late forties early fifties., and again for a short period in 1953-1954. I remember Aunt Ada , Uncle Fred and Eric and their cottage to the left of Lomans Hill. Aunt Ada gave me my first time of having beans on toast, didn't like them much then!
It was my sister that did the family tree in 2002-2006 when my mum was still with us, so mum was able to help a great deal. The Harwood boy/man? that was blind, Mum recalled playing cricket with him and others as a child on the common at the back of Lomans Hill, there used to be a bell inside the ball so he knew where it was. Secondly we think that my eldest sister met one of you in the graveyard in Elvetham about a year ago and had she known you were Aunty Ada's daughter she would have loved to have stopped for a long chat.
My sister has lots of information on our direct line and a photo of us with Ada, Eric and the perhaps the farmers son that I think one of you were talking about. He very kindly sent us this via our cousin, don't ask its a small world.
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Hi Mome,
Welcome to rootschat :)
I think this is the thread that you refer to
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,456810.0.html
I'll ask the moderator to move your post there :)
regards,
Ros
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:)Many thanks Ros, don't know what I'm doing but does this mean it will included in the topic, whatever it means thank you for your help
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,456810.0.html
http;//www.Hi Mome,
Welcome to rootschat :)
I think this is the thread that you refer to
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,456810.0.html
I'll ask the moderator to move your post there :)
regards,
Ros
Topics merged.