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Title: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: morriemoo on Sunday 23 September 12 15:02 BST (UK)
Wondering if anyone has any information on families who lived in Rutherglen or Chiltern, Victoria around 1900 with surname BLANCH OR BLANCHE.  In particular John and his wife Margaret and also Peter Michael Blanch who was a baker there for some years.

Thank you

Morriemoo
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: rosball on Sunday 23 September 12 22:17 BST (UK)
Here is an obit and description of death for Peter Michael Blanch in 1942

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65556119

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: rosball on Sunday 23 September 12 22:23 BST (UK)
Here is an obit to a John Blanch of Rutherglen in 1917
DEATH OF PIONEER MINER . -Mr.John Blanch, a pioneer Victorian miner,and formerly manager of the Southern
Console, Rutherglen, died at Tungamah on Tuesday, at the age of 76. He was a native of Scotland, and arrived at
 Ballarat in 1859,

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article88469326

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: rosball on Sunday 23 September 12 22:33 BST (UK)
There is a will on http://prov.vic.gov.au for John Blanch ex-miner Rutherglen died 21 Aug 1917

regards,
  Ros

Adding : he leaves estate to daughter Marian Ann Knight and 20 pounds to his son William

Is this the correct one?
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: rosball on Monday 24 September 12 01:42 BST (UK)
The Peter Michael Blanch who died in 1942 ...

Death reg # 29216  father Andrew, mother hohanna O'Keefe in 1942 Benalla, age 80

Birth reg #  24991  1865  father Andrew, Mother Johanna Keefe in shyt Vic

regards,
  Ros

adding : Sue tells me the birth should be Smyt i.e. Smythdale vic
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: rosball on Monday 24 September 12 01:52 BST (UK)
The John Blanch who died in 1917 reg no 10613 b abt 1841 at Tungamah.  No parents mentioned

regards,
   Ros
 
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: rosball on Monday 24 September 12 01:54 BST (UK)
There is a marriage for a John Blanch and Margaret head in 1885 Victoria
reg no 3194

regards,
  Ros
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: sparrett on Monday 24 September 12 02:32 BST (UK)
Death of Andrew Blanch- (Horrible :'()

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5983310?searchTerm="andrew blanch"&searchLimits=


BLANCH  Andw
Father Unknown
Mother
Age 61
Death Place GORDON
Year 1881
Reg Number 10630

Death of his wife

BLANCH Johanna
Father Okeefe Michael
Mother Bridget
Age 36
Birth Place KILKENNY
Year 1877
Reg Number 8188


Sue
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: rosball on Monday 24 September 12 02:42 BST (UK)

removed - probably not relevant  :-[

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: cando on Monday 24 September 12 03:27 BST (UK)
Wondering if anyone has any information on families who lived in Rutherglen or Chiltern, Victoria around 1900 with surname BLANCH OR BLANCHE.  In particular John and his wife Margaret and also Peter Michael Blanch who was a baker there for some years.

Thank you

Morriemoo

Australian Electoral Roll
1909
BLANCH Ellen Teresa  Rutherglen  HD
BLANCH John Rutherglen  Miner
BLANCH Margaret  Rutherglen  HD
BLANCH Peter Michael  Rutherglen  HD
BLANCH William  Great Southern  Miner
BLANCH William  Rutherglen  Miner

1914
BLANCH Ellen Teresa  49 Cambridge Street, Collingwood  HD
BLANCH Peter Michael  49 Cambridge Street, Collingwood  Baker

1919
BLANCH Ellen Teresa 50 Cambridge Street, Collingwood  HD
BLANCH Peter Michael  50 Cambridge Street, Collingwood  Baker

1924
BLANCH Ellen Teresa 50 Cambridge Street, Collingwood  HD
BLANCH  John Gordon  50 Cambridge Street, Collingwood  Bootmaker
BLANCH Peter Michael  50 Cambridge Street, Collingwood  Baker

1931
BLANCH Ellen Teresa  3 Palmer Street, Collingwood  HD
BLANCH Peter William  3 Palmer Street, Collingwood  Labourer
BLANCH Gladys  3 Palmer Street, Collingwood  Confectioner
BLANCH John  3 Palmer Street, Collingwood  Labourer
BLANCH Sydney  3 Palmer Street, Collingwood  Bootmaker
BLANCH Peter Michael  3 Palmer Street, Collingwood  Baker

1936
BLANCH Gladys  148 Johnston Street, Fitzroy  Confectioner
BLANCH Peter Michael 148 Johnston Street, Fitzroy  No occupation
BLANCH Violet Catherine  148 Johnston Street, Fitzroy  Confectioner

Cando
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: cando on Monday 24 September 12 03:58 BST (UK)
Quote
In particular John and his wife Margaret and also Peter Michael Blanch who was a baker there for some years.

Missed the 1903
BLANCH Ellen  Liliput  HD
BLANCH Peter Lilliput  Miner

The electoral roll listing for Peter and Ellen living at Rutherglen is a good example of a listing at an address is no guarantee that the person is living there at that time.  Peter and Ellen were living in Collingwood by 1907.

Births to Peter BLANCH and Ellen DWYER  and a few deaths.
BLANCH Peter William  Rutherglen  1895  Reg#24322 
BLANCH Andrew Chiltern  1896  Reg#18665  Died 1951  Heidelberg Reg#12275
BLANCH John  Chiltern  1898  Reg#17631   Died as John Gordon Lucas BLANCH  Fitzroy  1945  47 years  Reg#6187
BLANCH Thomas  Chiltern Valley  1899  Reg#25523  Died 1900 Reg#1185
BLANCH Edward Joseph  Chiltern Valley  1901  Reg#9992
BLANCH Sydney  Rutherglen  1903  Reg#13487  Died Fitzroy 1968  66 years  Reg#27194
BLANCH Gladys Mary  Collingwood  1907  Reg#25888  Died as Gladys JONES  East St Kilda  1968 59 years Reg#21373
BLANCH Leslie  Richmond  Reg#30381  Died 1910 Reg#1187
BLANCH Violet  Collingwood  1911  Reg#2524

Deaths
BLANCH Ellen Theresa
Father Dwyer Matthew  Mother Ellen  WADE
At Fitzroy  57 years  1932  Reg#5492

Cando





Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: sparrett on Monday 24 September 12 04:15 BST (UK)
Duplication and so deleted.

Sue
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: sparrett on Monday 24 September 12 04:18 BST (UK)
ANDREW born 1896 has a digitised ww1 record.

His father was Next of Kin at 50 Cambridge st Collingwood.  He enlisted in 1915.

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/

Sue
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: cando on Monday 24 September 12 04:45 BST (UK)
Marriage
BRENNAN John
KEIFFE Johanna
1855 Reg#3336

1865
BLANCH Andrew
BRENNAN Johanna
1865  Reg#417

Births to Andrew BLANCH and Johannah KEEFE/OKEEFE

BLANCH Peter Michael   1865  Smythesdale  Reg#24991
BLANCH Johannah  1868 Smythesdale  Reg#19683
BLANCH Andrew  1870 Gordon  Reg#16140
BLANCH Thomas 1872  Gordon  Reg#16516
BLANCH Martin 1874  Gordon  Reg#9209

Cando



Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: cando on Monday 24 September 12 04:48 BST (UK)
Some BLANCH names here
http://www.chilternathenaeum.com.au/more.html

Cando
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: sparrett on Monday 24 September 12 05:42 BST (UK)
Here is a photo of young ANDREW BLANCH in uniform

http://cas.awm.gov.au/photograph/P06451.002

I'm afraid he was in and out of trouble during the 1920's and in this instance, his brother was an accomplice.

Peter William and Andrew theft in Collingwood

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/45565359?searchTerm="andrew blanch" &searchLimits=

He was arrested as a stowaway  from Fremantle 1924.

 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/43252279?searchTerm="andrew blanch" &searchLimits=

Sue

Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: morriemoo on Monday 24 September 12 08:14 BST (UK)
Thank you so very much for the information.  I had some but did not have the photo of him during WWI.
Morriemoo
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: sparrett on Monday 24 September 12 08:37 BST (UK)
Was there something in particular you had hoped to find?

Sometimes quite specific inquiries can be very successfully addressed in the forum.

Sometimes being specific in your search query saves doubling up by the team when they  offer what you already know. ;D

Sue

 
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: morriemoo on Monday 24 September 12 09:55 BST (UK)
New to this and realised I need to be  more specific. Trying to find out whether John Blanch, miner of Rutherglen was related to Peter Michael Blanch, baker of Rutherglen.

Death registration for John Blanch does not show parents so cannot go any further.  He came from Scotland. Probate does not give any clues either.

I know from electoral rolls that:
1903: Peter, a miner and wife, Ellen shown at Lilliput, Great Southern, Vic.
1909: Peter Michael, a baker and wife Ellen Theresa and a John Blanch, a miner and his wife, Margaret lived at Rutherglen, Vic.  The rolls do not show the exact address of each so they may or may not have lived together.
And Peter, a labourer and wife Ellen at 26 Butler Street, Richmond, Vic.
1914: Peter Michael, a baker and Ellen lived at 50 Cambridge Street, Collingwood, Victoria.

I have researched my Blanch family completely so need no information on them.

Morriemoo
Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: cando on Monday 24 September 12 10:17 BST (UK)
Quote
Trying to find out whether John Blanch, miner of Rutherglen was related to Peter Michael Blanch, baker of Rutherglen.

Ah that's different ;D

No need to repeat what has been posted on the thread ;D

John was 76 when he died in 1917 so born c 1841 so definitely not a sibling.

Yes his marriage registration shows he was born in Scotland but if you purchased the marriage certificate it would give his parents including his mother's maiden name.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

BLANCH John born Scotland
HEAD Margaret born Scotland
1885  Reg#3194

His death certificate would be useful as it would give his time in Australia and then hopefully you may find him on the Scottish census prior to his emigration.

Cando


Title: Re: BLANCH/E FAMILIES OF RUTHERGLEN AND CHILTERN, VICTORIA
Post by: morriemoo on Monday 24 September 12 12:02 BST (UK)
Thank you.  I will order the marriage certificate.

Morrirmoo