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Title: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: Drinda on Friday 21 September 12 16:02 BST (UK)
Hi, I have relatives who got married twice the first marriage was in 1924 West Ham and the second marriage was also at West Ham , but in 1943.

The wife was catholic, but we think the husband was not, the family think it may be if the husband became a catholic in 1943 so they married again, both marriages are registered at the GRO so it is not like they just had a blessing.

Is this possible to have your marriage registered twice.

I hope someone can clear this up for me, Drinda.
Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 September 12 16:08 BST (UK)
Was there any divorce between the first and second marriage?
Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: Drinda on Friday 21 September 12 16:48 BST (UK)
This we don't know the only thing is that no one has ever seen any marriage photos. We do know that he did not want to get married the first time, but she was pregnant.

are there any devoice records on line.?
Thank you Drinda
Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 September 12 16:58 BST (UK)
Hi

It's the only explanation I can think of for there being 2 marriage entries but there may be other reasons that I am not aware of.

Have a look at this link

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,560708.0.html

Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: Drinda on Friday 21 September 12 17:47 BST (UK)
Thank you Carole, I could not justify spending sixty pound to find out, I think I will try to search out some older relations who may know or I may ask the friar he has been helpfull in the past.

Thank you so much, Drinda.
Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: GrahamSimons on Friday 21 September 12 17:51 BST (UK)
Another possibility - and one that I have had pointed out to me in my research - is that the first marriage may have been void or annulled. The one I looked into was tied up with bigamy.......
Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: Valda on Friday 21 September 12 19:44 BST (UK)
Hi

Divorce, a civil process, wouldn't be recognised by the Catholic church, the marriage would have to be annulled.

http://forum.chnetwork.org/index.php?topic=8357.0


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 September 12 12:40 BST (UK)
I have a friend who is still alive who married the same person twice, she has 2 wedding anniversaries, reason being she married the second time in a Catholic church, she had a child by then, her husband became a catholic years after

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: Valda on Saturday 22 September 12 13:09 BST (UK)
Hi

A church would never knowingly marry the same people twice if they are already legally married. The Catholic church has a ceremony called convalidation. This validates the marriage in a religious sense, but the priest cannot legally register that marriage again and send copies of the register to the local registrar, because the marriage is already registered.

http://www.churchofancientways.org/convalidation.html

On a marriage certificate you state your status, single, widowed or divorced. You can't state married. Therefore to marry again you would have to state you are free to marry.


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: Drinda on Saturday 22 September 12 16:02 BST (UK)
Thank you Valda and Louis,

It looks like the second marriage was ilegal, I am sure they did not know, and as they are now both passed it can't be put right now.

Thank you again Drinda.
Title: Re: Married twice to the same partner
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 September 12 18:41 BST (UK)
My friends marriage is only registered once

LM