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Title: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne COMPLETED
Post by: bobel2 on Friday 21 September 12 09:37 BST (UK)
Would love to trace parents of John CLANCY b June 1886 Newcastle.
1891 census shows only one CLANCY in Newcastle, and he is a sailor on board vessel!
1901 census no help either.
John married Jane Bertram FAIRMAN (FAIRMANN) Q2 1909 still in Newcastle and I have his history from there-on.

Presumably of Irish ancestors, but that is a guess at the moment.

Many thanks if someone can help.
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: Adamb on Friday 21 September 12 09:46 BST (UK)
It looks as if you'll have to bite the bullet and cough-up for his birth certificate as a first step.
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 21 September 12 10:19 BST (UK)
1901 census no help either.

 ???

Is this not your man?

1901 census: RG13, Piece 4773, Folio 56, Page 39
Elswick

Clancy, James  Head  M  40  b Ireland
Clancy, Margaret  Wife  F  37  b England
Clancy, John  Son  M  14  b Newcastle Upon Tyne
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: Adamb on Friday 21 September 12 12:29 BST (UK)
Maybe James Clancy who married Margaret Shaw, Newcastle District Ref. Newcastle T. 10b 166?
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 21 September 12 12:32 BST (UK)

Marriage FreeBMD;
James CLANCY, Dec 1885, Newcastle, 10b 166
On the same page is Margaret Ellen SHAW

Trish :)
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 21 September 12 12:39 BST (UK)
1891 they are under CLANEY, Margaret c 1865, Standforam ::)

Son William E has his Birth is Reg under William Shaw Clancy, Sept 1887
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 21 September 12 12:53 BST (UK)
1881 Census
34 Water Street,
Elswick, Northumberland
RG11/5054/36/25
Mary CLANCY, 55, Head, Widow, born Cavan, Ireland
Michael, 27, Son, Unm, Wood Sawyer, born Leitrim, Ireland
JAMES, 21, Son, Unm, Shoe Rivetter, born Leitrim
Joseph, 19, Unm, Unemployed, born Leitrim
Charles, 30, Son, Mar, Iron Turner, born Leitrim
Ann, 26, Mar, Wife of Charles, Boot Machinist, born Newcastle
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 21 September 12 13:13 BST (UK)
1871 they are in Elswick under CLUNEY on Anc;
James 1819, Masons Labourer
Mary 1831
Charles 1850
Michael 1853
John 1856
JAMES 1859
Joseph 1863
All born Ireland

So must have come to England c 1863-1871
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 21 September 12 13:24 BST (UK)
The Marriage Cert of John/Jane would confirm his Fathers name/Occp
James/Margarets Marriage Cert would do the same.

In Family Research we have to spend money unfortunately.

Trish :)
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: bobel2 on Saturday 22 September 12 09:30 BST (UK)
Hi all,

Many thanks for the helpful and prompt replies. Particularly Adamb for the 1901 record and Trish for the many replies.

It certainly looks like James and Margaret could be the ones (I do normally confirm findings by purchasing certificates!).

My difficulty arose because, using the well known FindMyPast,  the family identified by Adamb cannot be found, and I was looking for continuity through the census records. Without the 1901 record the trail falls apart.

Onward and backward thanks to you all

Cheers, Bobel
Title: Re: CLANCY - Newcastle upon Tyne
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 22 September 12 12:53 BST (UK)
Good luck bobel :)