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Sadly cannot find anything about the parish of Lansallos which is such a shame as the other parish information is brilliant and people have done an exceptional job. I am after information on a JOHN LANGMAID of Trenewan in the Parish of Lansallos who wrote his will on the 4th September 1818.
In the will he names his wife Rebecca, he has three sons George (eldest) Joseph (youngest) and John. He has a daughter Mary. He also has four sisters Catherine Charte, Elizabeth Hallett, Mary Elver and Rebecca Oate.
I need information on this John to make a family connection between: Henry Langmaid Born 1733 and married to an Elizabeth Soby and a John Langmaid Born 1795 in Boggamill who married Mary Wymouth Broad at Lanreath on 7th May 1818. Also any information on George the eldest son would certainly be a help as well.
Sincerly
Graham
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Theres a burial on COPC site
John Langmaid aged 66 Lansallos 9 Oct 1822 residence Trenewan
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GenUKI has some information:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Lansallos/index.html
It has info as to where baptisms, marriages and burials may be found.
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Thank you for that .... What is COPC site? and where would I find that?
Regards
Graham
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Think she means cornwall-OPC-database.org?
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Thanks Kevin,had to attend to something,couldnt see the replies till now ;D ;D
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A GEORGE Langmaid born c 1796 appears on the 1841 Census in Lansallos, Occp Farmer.
1851 he is born c 1793, living in Trenwan, Farmer, Unm
1861 born c 1792
(Nephew Isaac , Johns Son is with him, see below)
Next door to George in 1851 is;
JOHN Langmaid c 1796, Lansallos, Farmer, Wife Susan and Sons Isaac 9, Christopher 5 and a Orphaned Child Eliza Giles age 4.
Christenings to JOHN/REBECCA Langmaid/Longmaid, St Illdiema, Lansallos, Cornwall;
GEORGE 23 Oct 1791 (Mother Rebacca)
JOHN 14 July 1794
REBECCA SNEET? 05 December 1802
JOSEPH 25 February 1804
MARY 07 January 1806
(Source FreeREG using soundex option www.freereg.org.uk)
John LANGMAID Married Rebecca SWEET 18 April 1787, Maker, Cornwall
(Familysearch.Org)
So Rebecca 1802 must be Rebecca Sweet Langmaid
REBECCA Langmaid was Buried 09 Sept 1827, Lansallos, Residence Trevithick, age 65 (Birth c 1762)
(Cornwall OPC)
Trish :)
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That really was most informative Trish, thanks a million for that. My Family Tree seems mixed up with all these Johns' so it seems that I am going to have to backtrack a little. I definitely have a William Langmaid who was born to Richard Langmaid and Jane Anne (Nee Lander) at Highway Lanteglos by Fowey on 3 November 1859. This was Richards second wife as his first (Elizabeth Pearce) died in childbirth with his first son William who died a month later. So after a year he married Jane Anne a school teacher from St Veep who gave him a son they called William. The other children were Mary Ellen, Fanny and Harry.
So what I need to find out now is who were Richard Langmaids parents? In my Family History I have Richard born on the 28 October 1818 at Lanreath, Cornwall. I also have his parents, but I feel these may be wrong so will leave them out of the equation for the moment. Is it possible for someone to tell me who his parents were?
Thank You
Graham
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Back to Cornwall OPC!
Baptism 18th October 1818 at Talland
Richard Josias Langmaid, son of Richard and Elizabeth
Residing at Polperro, father a Tailor
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Thanks.
Yes Graham so back-tracking is needed.
Richards 1894 Burial has him born c 1818, age 76 (FreeREG)
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1841 Census
HO107/153/7/Lanreath
John HEESOM, 30, Carpenter
Jane Heesom, 30
Henry LANGMAID, 15, Carpenters Apprentice
RICHARD Langmaid, 20, Carpenter
Eliza WILCOX, 4
All born in County
Richards Marriage to Elizabeth PEARSE 19 Aug 1849, Lansallos, has his Fathers as JOHN, both have their Occp's as a Carpenter
(Cornwall OPC)
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Bog Mills Hamlet,
Lanreath, Cornwall
HO107/1903/314/18
John LANGMAID, 53, Head, Mar, Carpenter, born Lansallos
Mary, 54, Wife, Mar, born St Veep
Ann, 27, Daug, Unm, born Lanreath
Selena, 18, Daug, Unm, born Lanreath
Matilda, 16, Daug, Unm, born Lanreath
1841 in Lanreath we have;
John, 46, Carpenter
Mary, 46
Ann, 18
Harriot, 14
Selina, 6
Matilda, 4
John MUTTON, 18, Carpenter
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Just putting this here now to remind me of what I found (will explain later)
John Langmaid 59
Rebecca Langmaid 33
Sidney Collings 15
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I have the folowing information in my current Family History of the Langmaids:
Richard Langmaid: Born 28 October 1818, Lanreath, Cornwall. Married September 1849 Elizabeth Pearce. She died in August 1851 giving birth to William who died a month later.
On 24 December 1857 Richard (widower) marries Jane Anne Lander from St Veep (school mistress). She blesses Richard with a son they call William on 3 November 1859.
According to my Family History, Richards parents were a John & Mary (Nee Wymouth Broad) Langmaid. John was born 1795 and christened 25 May 1795 at Bogga Mill. He married Mary on the 7 May 1818 at Lanreath. They had seven children: Richard, Ann, Margaretta, Francis, Selina, Matilda and Harriet,
So far so good, so now who were John Langmaids parents? This is where I feel my Family History goes wrong. I have two names, but not sure if they are correct. Assistance would be most appreciated.
Graham
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H Graham,
I cant confirm either the Christening of Richard 1818 but had found the other Girls.
I feel it is a possibility that Henry from the 1841 Census I posted, is a Brother of Richard 1818 or a Cousin.
Now the only thing that worries me is that on the bit of info I put earlier, which I said I would explain later, Sidney Collings is down as the Nephew of John Langmaid.
Margaretta Langmaid (under Margaret) Married Francis COLLINGS Reg Sept 1843
If this is John, Father of Richard/Margaret it looks like he remarried also to a much younger Woman Rebecca.
I have to do a bit more research on this so back later.
Trish :)
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1871 Census
Tencreek,
St Veep, Cornwall
RG10/2245/67/7
John LANGMAID, 75, Head, Mar, Carpenter, born Lansallos (1796)
Rebecca, 42, Wife, Mar, born St Veep
Frank, 6, Son, born St Veep
(the old devil!)
1861 Census
St Veep, Cornwall
RG9/1532/99/5
John LANGMAID, 59, Head, Mar, Carpenter, born St Veep (1802)
Rebecca, 33, Wife, Mar, born St Veep
Sidney COLLINGS, 15, Nephew, Scholar, born St Veep
Marriage FreBMD;
John LANGMAID, March 1860, Liskeard, 5c 129
Rebecca BEST on same page
(A John MUTTON has his Marriage Reg the same time, wonder if it the one from 1841 Census?)
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If what I have found (a second Marriage for John) it may be the info you require re Johns Father/Occp etc.
Frank died age 9 in 1874
Cornwall OPC has a WILLIAM Baptised 19 Nov 1866, St Veep to John/Rebecca, Father Carpenter.
FreeBMD has a Birth Reg Dec 1866 and a Death Reg Dec 1866 for him
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Looks like Richards Father definitely was a John as 1st Son is named that from 1851 Census where he is Married to Elizabeth;
HO107/1903/230/8
He may have died between 1851-1861 Census where John Snr is Married to Jane Ann
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Mutton Dressed as Lamb !
Richard Langmaid who married Elizabeth Pearce and then Jane Anne Lander has a sister called Matilda Jane Langmaid who marries a John Mutton in 1858 at Liskeard, they have three children Mary Jane Mutton, Laura Mutton and Anna Maria Mutton. What is also interesting is that his other sister Ann Langmaid at the age of 51(Born 1819) is working as a servant for a Richard Mutton widower. She has two children one aged 14 and the other 8. On her death in 1913 she leaves £100 to her daughter Lucy Ann, now the wife of Henty Libby.
So its looking OK up to now, still have to confirm the parents of John Langmaid who was baptised 25 May 1785 at Bogg Mill and married Mary Wymouth Broad in Lanreath on 7 May 1818. With your perserverance its all starting to untangle a bit and I may be able to repair the broken link!
I presume that it is another lovely day in Australia, its very nice here so taking the Granddaughter up to Bourton-on-the-Water (Cotswolds) for the day. Thanks fo all your assistance to date, been brilliant.
Have a lovely weekend
Graham x
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your best bet to confirm John's father would be to get his 1860 marriage certificate as John should have given name & occupation for his father. I've checked St Veep and Lanreath parish marriages on FamilySearch and it's not there. Lansallos isn't on there for the date required or it could be that it wasn't a parish marriage.
If he is the son of John & Rebecca, then his baptism was 14/7/1794
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=10226283
;)
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I agree the 1860 M/C is a must to purchase.
Trish :)
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What a coincidence, last night watched a film about Mary Bryant, first woman prisoner to escape from Australia and return back home. She was from Fowey, Cornwall and before marrying Byant was Mary Broad 1765-1794. In my Family Tree I have a John Langmaid married to a Mary Wymouth Broad, I wonder if there may have been a link between the two, althougth the Mary in my FH was born in 1795 I believe. Great film by the way.
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Sadly cannot find anything about the parish of Lansallos
You obviously haven't made contact with the Polperro Family History Society which covers the two parishes of Lansallos and Talland that include and surround the village of Polperro.
Not much they don't know about Lansallos...
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I'll give that a try, thanks for that!
Graham
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Hi Graham
Only just seen this post. I have connections to Polperro which stands between the parishes of Lansallos and Talland. Although I only have distant connections to the Langmaid family I do have info passed along from others. As Graylight says, if you havent been in touch with the Polperro FHS then you should (I'm a member) they have so much info.
What I have on 'your' John Langmaid is :
Born c1755 married Rebecca Sweet.
Children : George 1791, John 1794, Rebecca Sweet 1802, Joseph 1804 & Mary 1806
Parents : John Langmaid b c1723 Elizabeth Goard 1725
Siblings : Catherine 1748, Mary 1759, Rebcca 1761(two other Johns b1750 & 1754 both died)
Have various bits on other Langmaids that may or may not be connected to you :)
Fiona
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I do not feel that John & Elizabeth Nee Goard are the same family line that I am researching. I get the feeling there were the rich Langmaids and the poorer Langmaids and that I am a decendent of the 'Poorer'. My John Langmaid was born 1768 and died 1838, married Mary Thomas on 25 May 1791 and had five children: John, (born 1795 Boggamill married Mary Wymouth Broad then on 25 January 1860 married Rebecca Best) Mary Ann, Elizabeth, Henry and Catherine. His parents I presume were Henry Langmaid baptised 12 February 1733 at Lansallos, died 23 May 1789 and married Elizabeth Soby on the 4 October 1759. They had seven children. Would be brilliant to find out who Henry's parents were and where from.
Does this make sense? I feel the Rebecca Sweet was the rich Langmaids!!
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Hi Graham
Very confusing with all these Langmaids ;D
Sorry that the info I had is nots 'yours' I have bits and pieces on various Langmaids that connect into my tree but none that matches the names you mentioned :(
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That really is a shame as I was hoping for a breakthrough at last. Thanks all the same, was most appreciated.
Graham
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Graham
I have been keeping an eye on this thread as I have an interest in the Langmaid family in Lansellos/Polperro area. It is well worthwhile contacting the Polperro FHS. I did and in my letter box today (in australia) was a family tree of Langmaids (of era that was confusing me) sent by the FHS secretary and editor. All from their databases. Haven't had a chance to have a really good look ...... But there is a John langmaid bap 25 may 1795 Lanteglos, son of John langmaid and Mary Thomas. John langmaid senior (bap. 22 jul 1768, died 24 April 1838 in trewen, Lansellos) was son of Henry langmaid (bap 12 feb 1733 Lansellos) and Elizabeth soby/soady.
Are any of these johns yours?
Cocksie
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H Graham,
I cant confirm either the Christening of Richard 1818 but had found the other Girls.
I feel it is a possibility that Henry from the 1841 Census I posted, is a Brother of Richard 1818 or a Cousin.
Now the only thing that worries me is that on the bit of info I put earlier, which I said I would explain later, Sidney Collings is down as the Nephew of John Langmaid.
Margaretta Langmaid (under Margaret) Married Francis COLLINGS Reg Sept 1843
If this is John, Father of Richard/Margaret it looks like he remarried also to a much younger Woman Rebecca.
I have to do a bit more research on this so back later.
Trish :)
Hi, My ancestor is Margaretta Langmaid born may 20th 1823. She married Francis Collings and her father's name was John. They had a girl Rhoda Jane Collings who is my great great grandmother. She married william hambly who had my great grandfather Alfred Hambly, would you be talking about the same person?