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Title: Road name off a Census return
Post by: natterjack72 on Sunday 16 September 12 13:31 BST (UK)

Hi,

I have recently come across an entry on the 1881 Census for a Fredc W Guy (Frederick William Guy) born 1838 Chiddingly and his wife Susanah, stating that they were living at Na Bd Oad, Chiddingly, Sussex.  Now I can figure that the Oad means Road, but has anyone got any idea what the Na Bd stands for?  At present I am unable to look up any other census returns to check to see if they are at the same address in 1891 and 1901, to help learn the address information, but I am aware they weren't there until then, thanks to help elsewhere.  Hopefully some one might know what this road was actually called.

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,
 
Natterjack

Title: Re: Road name off a Census return
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 16 September 12 13:38 BST (UK)

Could it be Nr  Bd  Oak  -  'Near Broad Oak'  :-\     

Title: Re: Road name off a Census return
Post by: groom on Sunday 16 September 12 13:50 BST (UK)

Not a lot of help but in 1871 he was unmarried with his brother in Pevensey Road, Eastbourne


  Silas   Guy  Head        M   34 Coach builder       Chiddingly Sussex       
  Caroline Guy   Wife                F   34                           Brighton Sussex       
  Caroline H Guy    Daughter     F   3                           Eastbourne Sussex       
  George S Guy   Son                M   1                           Eastbourne Sussex       
  Frederick W Guy    Brother     M   32   Coach Maker        Chiddingly Sussex       
  Sarah Crimp   Servant        F   14                           Kent

Title: Re: Road name off a Census return
Post by: suey on Sunday 16 September 12 18:18 BST (UK)

Quote from: rosie99 on Sunday 16 September 12 13:38 BST (UK)

Could it be Nr Bd Oak - 'Near Broad Oak' :-\

I agree with rosie

Looking at Google maps and searching with the previous census place name of Holmes Hill there is a Broadoak Wood.  Couldn't find the Bat and Ball, there is a Golden Cross Inn so maybe it had a name change. All places within walking distance of each other

Title: Re: Road name off a Census return
Post by: Gravity on Sunday 16 September 12 22:57 BST (UK)

From the 1891 Census :

Piece: RG12/773 Place: Eastbourne -Sussex Enumeration District: 12
Civil Parish: Eastbourne Ecclesiastical Parish: All Souls
Folio: 114 Page: 56 Schedule: 384
Address: 84 Longstone Road
 
GUY, Frederick William - Head 53 Carriage Builder (Notem) Sussex - Chiddingly    
GUY, Susannah Maria - Wife 46 Dressmaker (Em'ee) London - Kingsland   

This seems to be the right age and area too :

Deaths March 1910 : GUY, Frederick William 71 - Eastbourne

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http://www.theweald.org/P2.asp?PId=Cd.BroadOakF

http://www.theweald.org/a21.asp?QId=72125000&astart=184999999&aend=999999999

Title: Re: Road name off a Census return
Post by: natterjack72 on Tuesday 18 September 12 22:55 BST (UK)

Thank you everyone,

it looks like the Near Broad Oak is a high possibility.  And thanks for the 1891 census too.  Looks like he moved to be back near his brother Silas, who he had been living with during the 1871 Census.

Again thank you and many kind regards,

Natterjack

Title: Re: Road name off a Census return
Post by: Gardener on Tuesday 18 September 12 23:19 BST (UK)

Hi
The Bat and Ball is a listed building so should still be standing.
This 1839 tithe map http://www.coopersfarm.co.uk/chiddingly/tithemap.pdf shows the position of the Bat and Ball and also has Broad Oak Field, Broad Oak Plain, and Broad Oak Wood marked on it. There seems to be a Broad Oak Chapel as well, or at least associated field/garden.

Here is a pic of the Bat and Ball http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2802278

Title: Re: Road name off a Census return
Post by: Gardener on Tuesday 18 September 12 23:32 BST (UK)

And there was a Broad Oak Farm too http://www.theweald.org/P2.asp?PId=Cd.BroadOakF

The order on the census is
Nr Broad Oak (Guy family)
Bat and Ball Inn (Shaw family)
Broad Oak Farm (Russell family)
Nr Broad Oak (Russell family)

So depending on how the enumerator walked perhaps it was near to the farm?