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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: eleanorbaron on Thursday 13 September 12 00:12 BST (UK)
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Greetings --
I'm researching my maternal grandmother's family of origin and can't seem to get past her immediate family and parents, as listed in the 1901 Census. They lived in Buncrana. The father's name was Edward and mother's was Fanny (Duggan, I've been told, but can't confirm). It appears that Edward was born about 1839 and Fanny about 1859. The children were: John (1880), Mary (1882), Michael (1884), Kate (1887), Ellen (1889), Bridget (1890), Bernard (1891), Eddy (1893), Anne (1895), Joseph (1898), Patrick (1900). My grandmother, Frances, was not listed on the 1901 Census (assume she was away?) but was born in 1892. The names and birth years of the others have been confirmed by older members of the family, so I believe this to be the correct Doherty family. All of the children came to the U.S. but two (not completely sure which two).
I've been very successful in researching the other lines of my family, but the Doherty line has stumped me. Where do I go from here? As you can tell, I'm new to the world of Irish genealogy; it's overwhelming!
Thank you for any direction you can provide!
Eleanor
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Hello Eleanor,
I take it this is your family
Doherty Family 1901 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Buncranna/Ludden/1181232/)
Ludden is in Lower Fahan Parish SEE MAP (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bhilchey/MFahanlower.html)
A resource you may have looked at Donegal Genealogy Resources (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/) may be worth another look now you have a handle on the actual location of Ludden.
I will in due course look a little further but await a reply on what you may have found.
Padraig.
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Hi Padraig,
Yes, that's my family (absent my grandmother Frances). Thank you for the clarification on the name Ludden, and the link to the map. I'd looked at that map before but not connected Ludden with my family. On the Griffeth's Valuation Index, I see several Edward Dohertys, but I'm not sure which might be mine. I do see a Denis McGonigle, Ballymacarry, who I now realize married Kate Doherty. I'm hoping that detail might help somehow!
Any other thoughts? I appreciate your help.
Eleanor
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Hello Eleanor,
At the time of the Griffith Valuation 1857 for Ludden(Luddan) Edward would have been in his youth. and the details below containing the heads of households indicate a number of Dohertys in Ludden who may be Edwards father
Doherty Families Ludden(Luddan) (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&PlaceID=1518653&county=Donegal&barony=Inishowen,%20west&parish=Fahan,%20lower&townland=%3Cb%3ELuddan%3C/b%3E)
There are records of three Edward Doherty birth/baptism in Donegal for the period 1837-1841 in the County of Donegal at rootsireland.ie. Of the christian names on the Griffith Valuation used to cross reference, only John returns a positive result.
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Hi Padraig,
Does that imply that John is Edward's father?
Eleanor
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Hello Eleanor,
Edward appears to marry late in life given the age of Fanny. We need to ascertain a date of marriage, obtain certification which in turn should detail his fathers name.
The picture I have given is merely a best guess given the details we have and the elimination of the other Doherty fathers from Ludden make it a mere possibility.
Civil registration certificates should allow you to narrow down the probabilities, but John is looking good to me..
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Thanks so much for turning me in the right direction!
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Hi Eleanor,
Just found what might be the most important link
Edward Doherty Marriage (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYQY-S3K)
Spouse (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYQY-76J)
As the volume number and page number are the same, and your Duggan reference in your first post, I think its safe to assume this is the marriage to answer your questions.
You will need to order the cert to move on further.
Oredering Certificates (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,599538.0.html)
Hope it all works out.
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Padraig,
You have been so generous with your time. Thank you! The certificate process (payment from U.S.) sounds daunting, but I'll give it a try. I appreciate your help.
Eleanor
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Hi Eleanor,
It's not a problem at all, just pleased to be of some help.Trust you will consider continuing to use the boards in the near future.
Padraig
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Yes, I will. Struggling in isolation is no fun!
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Eleanor
Saw your query and thought I would check it out for you. I live in Buncrana and have checked the marriage records you require.
Edward Doherty married Francis Duggan on 25 August 1878 in St Mary's Church Cockhill which is just outside Buncrana. The witnesses were Daniel Grant & Bridget Duggan. Unfortunately the records do not say who their parents were but if you contact the civil registration office in Letterkenny with the details above they will be able to issue a certificate and from that you will have both fathers names. Civil Registration Telephone number is 074 9124576.
Regards
Marie
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Thanks, Marie. That gets me one step closer. Plus, it tells me that my great grandmother Fanny probably had a sister named Bridget, unless of course that was her mother present as a witness. I appreciate your help!
Eleanor
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Hi Marie,
I obtained the certificate for the marriage of Edward Doherty and Fanny Duggan, and now know their fathers to be Patrick Doherty and John Duggan. The residence at time of marriage listed for Frances Duggan is Luddan, which makes sense to me, but for Edward it's Moyle. Is Moyle located in Buncrana too, or somewhere else? The later generations of Dohertys were in Luddan, Lower Fahan, but I'm trying to figure out where to look now for Patrick. Any thoughts on Moyle?
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Eleanor
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Eleanor
Glad to hear you are now a step further back in your research. My understanding is the the Moyle is, if you like, over the hill from Ludden towards Buncrana. I will check out an ordance survey map and see if I can get the co-ordinates for you.
Regards
Marie
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have a look at this site
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal
come down the page and type in the Basic search box: Buncrana