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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: kirkbairn on Monday 10 September 12 00:29 BST (UK)
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the house in Bonnybridge called Mount Bartholomew can anyone tell me how it got its name
jim
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Hi Jim,
Have you seen the article by the Greenhillhistory society?
http://www.greenhillhistoricalsociety.org.uk/html/bonnybridge_walk.html
You may get the information required form them x
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thanks I knew of the talk
the reason I am trying to find out is I have Bartholomews and Mounts who stayed in Bonnybridge in family tree
kirkbairn
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Hi,
I have a family tree leaf living at 13 Mount Bartholomew (Denny, Stirling) in 1901 census so I presume it must have been a street or precinct?
It now seems to come under Falkirk rather than Denny so I'm a bit confused as to where it actually is/was as I thought Denny & Falkirk both came under Stirling ???
Annie.
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Hi,
I have a family tree leaf living at 13 Mount Bartholomew (Denny, Stirling) in 1901 census so I presume it must have been a street or precinct?
It now seems to come under Falkirk rather than Denny so I'm a bit confused as to where it actually is/was as I thought Denny & Falkirk both came under Stirling ???
Annie.
Hi,
It is complicated! Denny is part of Falkirk Burgh and both come under Stirlingshire (not Stirling City).
Just to add to the complication I always understood Mount Bartholomew to be in Bonnybridge, not Denny. - They are neighbouring villages though x
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Hi Bairn (Broons)? ;D
I did mean Stirlingshire but with all the transformations over the years it does come under Bonnybridge now but not a help as to finding a pic of either,
Annie.
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I have a thread with details on it:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=664584.msg5098825#msg5098825
Annie
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Go to Google maps and key in Wellpark Terrace, Bonnybridge.
Once there, take the wee yellow man half way along Wellpark Terrace and at the other side of the gardens (which used to be the railway line), sits Mount Bartholomew.
It's 'sort of' behind the Royal Hotel - the big white building.
Or, alternatively, go along to the end of Wellpark Terrace where it meets Ford Road, turn right into Ford Road and Mount Bartholomew is 1st on the right.
Anne
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It now seems to come under Falkirk rather than Denny so I'm a bit confused as to where it actually is/was as I thought Denny & Falkirk both came under Stirling ???
Thanks to a reorganisation of local government in 1975, the present local authority boundaries are largely irrelevant for historical research, except that archives now tend to be held according to the newfangled boundaries.
Also, you need to be quite clear when you are referring to the County and when you are referring to the parish. Parishes are mutually exclusive, that means that a place cannot be in more than one parish, though this can be confused by boundary adjustments over time, and there are some places with the same names in adjacent parishes. Also, some parishes are partly in one county and partly in another.
For purposes of genealogical research, the parish is the basis on which information was usually recorded.
The Burgh of Stirling is mostly in the parish of Stirling in the County of Stirling (also known as Stirlingshire but never as 'County Stirling' or 'Stirling County') but the town expanded into the adjacent parish of St Ninians.
The parish of Denny is in the County of Stirling.
Bonnybridge is a village in the parish of Falkirk in the County of Stirling.
For lots of useful information about what is where, explore http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/STI/index.html
Maps used to show the parish boundaries, but the current ones don't. You can view older maps with parish boundaries at http://maps.nls.uk/index.html, or you can buy second-hand copies of the old one-inch-to-the-mile maps, which also show parish boundaries.
Since 1975 the County of Stirling ceased to be an administrative area, though it continues to exist as a historic and ceremonial county. It was mostly split between Stirling District and Falkirk District. Bonnybridge will be in Falkirk District, and I expect Denny probably is too.
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Thanks to a reorganisation of local government in 1975, the present local authority boundaries are largely irrelevant for historical research, except that archives now tend to be held according to the newfangled boundaries.
For purposes of genealogical research, the parish is the basis on which information was usually recorded.
Too true Forfarian,
Now politics comes into it (government). Not happy changing street names, they move boundries, change counties, disband army regiments, change area names to gaelic.........................
Next they will be re-routing rivers ??? ::) ;D
Annie
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http://archive.org/stream/thennowdennyloankeir/thennowdennyloankeir_djvu.txt
Mount Bartholomew is definitely in Bonnybridge, it is a small row of houses which lead to the top of the Ford brae, hopefully if this link works, you will find reference to it on p13 of this talk. Now I know there is a plaque situated somewhere near there, but for the life of me I cannot remember what it is about. I cannot recall any Bartholomew or Mount families in Bonnybridge from my days living there...I was born in the village just after the war but left when I was 20 into the RAF and only return for family visits. Going to contact another Rootschat member and family for some moreinfo if you'd like to have
Bill
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I've found a picture showing Mount Bartholomew, Ford Cottage and Dobbie's Cottage amongst my 'collection'.
There is no date, but I think it was taken around the turn of the century.
Anyone who wants a copy, send me a PM with your personal e-mail address.
Anne
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rear of house in mount bartholomew row