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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Saturday 08 September 12 23:57 BST (UK)
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I have found a few newspaper articles and bankruptcy notice for a Benjamin Goulson, farrier, blacksmith and veterinary surgeon in Louth during the 1820's. Also references to him having a stallion covering areas as far afield as Belvoir at Grantham.
In my tree the name Benjamin Goulson is fairly common, and in most cases they are farriers in and around the Ropsley, Belvoir and Colsterworth areas at the same sort of time.
Benjamin Goulson (bn 6th April, 1779, Woolsthorpe) is the only one in my tree who I haven't pinned down beyond his birth so he may be the Louth man. His father and grandfather also happen to be blacksmiths and were known locally for their abilities to heal ailing horses
Any ideas what to try so as to count or discount him as the possible man from Louth?
I have only found one other reference to a B. Goulson neat to Louth, an 1807 marriage to Sarah Elmitt at Coningsby via familysearch.
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Lincolnshire Archives have a marriage bond relevant to this marriage. It may contain details of Benjamin's occupation.
The reference is MB 1807/723 & 724.
(Detail from Lincolnshire FHS Marriage bonds & allegations 1628-1837, available on CD.)
If you go to the Archives, you will be able to see the document. Alternatively, you will need to contact Archives re the cost of obtaining a photocopy.
http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/residents/archives/
They should also be able to send you a better copy of the marriage entry in the PR. (Bottom left)
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=781794&iid=141822
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Hi Glen
There's a Benjamin 60 in 1841 census farrier with Sarah 50 & John Elmitt 14 living in Thoroton Nottinghamshire, all not born County.
I wasn't sure whether or not you had this info.
Cheers
Tinam
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Hi Glen
There's a Benjamin 60 in 1841 census farrier with Sarah 50 & John Elmitt 14 living in Thoroton Nottinghamshire, all not born County.
I wasn't sure whether or not you had this info.
Cheers
Tinam
Yes, and a widowed Sarah with an ELMITT sister in Boston in 1851.
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Hi Glen
There's a Benjamin 60 in 1841 census farrier with Sarah 50 & John Elmitt 14 living in Thoroton Nottinghamshire, all not born County.
I wasn't sure whether or not you had this info.
Cheers
Tinam
Yes, and a widowed Sarah with an ELMITT sister in Boston in 1851.
In which case, I would think this is Benjamin's death registration - March quarter 1846 Bingham registration district.
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Hi Glen
There's a Benjamin 60 in 1841 census farrier with Sarah 50 & John Elmitt 14 living in Thoroton Nottinghamshire, all not born County.
I wasn't sure whether or not you had this info.
Cheers
Tinam
Yes, and a widowed Sarah with an ELMITT sister in Boston in 1851.
In which case, I would think this is Benjamin's death registration - March quarter 1846 Bingham registration district.
Thanks everyone, just piecing a few bits together, re the death reg, this is probably the burial then..
Benjamin Goulson buried 01/03/1846 at Whatton, aged 67, parish - St John of Beverley, Whatton, abode Thoroton.
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Hi, I know this is not immediately relevant to your question, but on Flickr there is a picture of a gravestone at Ropsley, Lincs. for a Benjamin Goulson, died 1731. Andrew Wilson
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Hello again. The Joseph Goulson born Ropsley in 1707 is a farrier. His father is another Benjamin. If I were a betting man, I'd say your Benjamin, a grandson of Joseph b1707, is your man! Andrew
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http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=781794&iid=141822
Left hand page 3/4 of the way down is the marriage entry
Possibly no additional data, but nice to see a copy of the original
Edward
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Hello again. The Joseph Goulson born Ropsley in 1707 is a farrier. His father is another Benjamin. If I were a betting man, I'd say your Benjamin, a grandson of Joseph b1707, is your man! Andrew
That's what I'm hoping for, the Flickr photographs are mine. The Goulson family are amongst my direct line ancestors, there is another family with the same name in the Coningsby area but as yet they haven't been connected. It seems both families were pretty close geographically back to the 1700's in Leicestershire too but there isn't anything that ties them to each other.
And thanks to Edward for the link, now if I can just get the archives to start a search for the marriage bond I might get somewhere with Benjamin and Sarah.
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From the Louth museum website I've found the following;
"Frederick Esberger liked to boast that his business was a long-established one, founded in 1818, according to his advertisements. In fact, in 1844 it was a relatively new business, founded only in the last three years. But Esberger could make his claim because he had taken over an older coach-making firm, that of Stephen A’Court, which had operated in the town since the 1820s, when it, too, had taken over an earlier firm, established by Benjamin Goulson, which probably had been established in 1818 (and was certainly in business in January 1823, when it appeared in the rate valuation book)."
I also have some news articles about a court case and bankrupt proceedings of Benjamin Goulson, farrier of Louth. These follow an incident where Benjamin treated a coach builder who had suffered a leg injury, the gentleman later had to have his leg amputated.
I have now tried three times to find details for the marriage bond (via the archives research service) with no luck. Lot's of information and dates but still can't pin it down to being my chap. ???
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Hello again. The Joseph Goulson born Ropsley in 1707 is a farrier. His father is another Benjamin. If I were a betting man, I'd say your Benjamin, a grandson of Joseph b1707, is your man! Andrew
That's what I'm hoping for, the Flickr photographs are mine. The Goulson family are amongst my direct line ancestors, there is another family with the same name in the Coningsby area but as yet they haven't been connected. It seems both families were pretty close geographically back to the 1700's in Leicestershire too but there isn't anything that ties them to each other.
And thanks to Edward for the link, now if I can just get the archives to start a search for the marriage bond I might get somewhere with Benjamin and Sarah.
Are you talking about the marriage bond referred to in my post #2 in this thread?
If so, then there's no 'searching' as such to be done as you have the reference.
Also, Archives will send you (for a fee which might be cheaper than travel costs :)) a photocopy of the bond. Note that I think it's marriage bonds which usually have two pages.
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I've contacted them a few times with the reference both via email and phone asking for cost and a copy without success. I'm in Scotland so it's cheaper/quicker to use their service than try myself but the Archives never work out for me, the library is different story, I've had heaps from them in the past without any trouble.
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I've contacted them a few times with the reference both via email and phone asking for cost and a copy without success. I'm in Scotland so it's cheaper/quicker to use their service than try myself but the Archives never work out for me, the library is different story, I've had heaps from them in the past without any trouble.
That is really bad of them. Are they trying to do themselves out of a job?
Think I'd be asking to speak to the person in charge and complaining long and loud, and if that still didn't get a result then I'd be making noises to the county council.
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I am really surprised that you are experiencing any problems with the Lincoln Archives as I have always found them to be very helpful & efficient.
If you send an e-mail to Archive.Copies&lincolnshire.gov.uk (change to & to a @), quoting the references and asking for a price, they will generally respond with 72 hours.
regards
Edward