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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: Davidjnr on Friday 07 September 12 12:20 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to trace the war records of my Great Grandfather and Great Great Uncle of whom I have photo's of them dressed in military uniform. See attached :-)
I am asking for anyone's direction on where to find their war records as no within in the family knows where they were stationed or whether they were conscripted into the Great War or the 2nd World War.
Joseph my Great Grandfather was born in Manchester in 1900 Gorton, Lancashire, England and Albert in 1895 in Newton Heath, Lancashire, England. They appear with their brother John Henry and the rest of the family on the 1911 census at 38 Briscoe Lane Newton Heath Manchester. Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 24275.
How can I confirm they were in the military? I expect they were in the Cheshire regiments as they were born and lived in Manchester most of their lives.
Dave
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Hi
Ancestry has quite a few military records including WW1. Find My Past has Armed forces & conflict records. Both of these are subscription sites, but often have 14 days free trial.
What were their surnames?
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Robinson :-)
I have a paid subscription to Ancestry and get easily lost...
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Hopefully someone on here will be able to identify their regiments from your photo as that will narrow your search.
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Fingers crossed :-) Thank you. Can anyone help identify the regiments? War records?
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A good place to start your research is here:
http://www.1914-1918.net/
where you will find some excellent basic information and pointers.
jds1949
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Both are World war1 the cap badges are difficult to identify however the lad on the left appears to be with a Scots Regiment
Don't be misled by thinking they would join a local regiment....after 1916 conscription came in then they would go where needed.
Only 30% of service records survived the Blitz and are on ancestry.
Ady
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Even before conscription men joined any regiment which would take them, especially in the rush to join up in the early months.
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That's brilliant. My Great Great uncle Albert Robinson is the gentleman on the left, my Great Grandfather Joesph is on the right.
David
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Can anyone help further tracing the WW1 records I'm at a loss and any advice would be wonderful on the steps taken and information that can be found...
D
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There are, unfortunately, scores of men named Albert Robinson in the Medal Cards. It would seem that yours served with a Scottish Regiment - that would eliminate many of them, but you will still be left with a sizeable number of possible contenders.
Some possible strategies:
Absent Voters List of 1918 - if you can get to Newton Heath Library and check if they have the List and then see if you can find Albert listed - it should give at least his Regiment. Try Gorton for Joseph. [A phone call to the relevant libraries might get you what you want]
Did either man marry of have children between 1914 - 1919? If so the relevant certificate may have the information you want.
A long shot - and hard work - is to look through the local papers of the time to see if they are listed: men who were wounded, on leave, were often mentioned - some newspapers even listed everyone in the area who joined up - especially in the early years of the war.
Another angle is to ask the local library if they hold past copies of church magazines 1914 - 1918 - they also often listed men who enlisted.
Having said all that - it is still quite likely that you will not find what you want - it really is a needle in a haystack job, with no certainty that the needle is even there!
Good hunting,
jds1949
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Hi,
in 1911 Albert & Joseph were living at 38 Briscoe Lane Newton Heath Manchester with there family aged 16 & 11. In 1918 Albert married and on the certificate he was living at 30 Francisco Street, Newton Heath Manchester. In 1921 Joseph married and on the certificate he was living at 30 Francisco Street, Newton Heath Manchester.
Using the revelation of Scotch Guards I have found an Albert Robinson on FindmyPast records 'Prisoners of War 1914-1918' Robinson A. 2nd Lieutenant 16th Battalion. Royal Scots.
I have no credits so could anyone please help determine if this is indeed him?
Dave
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No way of telling I'm afraid, it just gives the details you have given plus when and where he went missing and when he was repatriated. It only gives an initial and there are no images.
Jan
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What are the details?
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There is one officer with the Royal Scots who comes up on the National Archives site - unfortunately his first name is Alfred:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=1609272&CATLN=6&Highlight=%2CROBINSON%2CROYAL%2CSCOTS&accessmethod=0
jds1949
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Missing 9/4/1918 repatriated 1/12/1918. Western Theatre of Operations