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Title: Algeo
Post by: Puzzle on Thursday 06 September 12 14:09 BST (UK)
My great grandfather was John Algeo, an irish leather merchant who by the late 1800's was in Upper Parliament Street in Toxteth.  I know photos of his business at 326 exist and was wondering if anyone knew where I could look or if anyone knows anything about him. He was also at Brownlow Hill and Trafalgar Street. 
I suppose he was the founder of A.Algeo Ltd of today.  I have some family photos and I know my mother was very fond of him.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: jvy20 on Thursday 06 September 12 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi,

Googled John Algeo + Liverpool - got a webpage of the company and there i some info there.

John
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 06 September 12 21:02 BST (UK)
What exactly are you looking for about Mr Algeo ,
he was a bootmaker on his marriage record and his father was Lewis a farmer


there are quite a few mentions of  farmers called Lewis Algeo in Griffins directories of Ireland
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: Puzzle on Thursday 06 September 12 21:21 BST (UK)
Thank you for that, I have never got further than he came from Ireland, I have to admit, I hadn't a clue where to look.
I should love to see the photos of the shop and street, my sister 'borrowed' them from someone, or somewhere in Liverpool but I don't know where and she sadly died a few years ago, there don"t seem to be any copies.  I have inherited all the family records now both my brother and sister have died and am just picking up the pieces.
I also rather hoped that there might just be some other Algeos out there with more information than me!

Thanks for your help, I'm most grateful.
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 06 September 12 21:23 BST (UK)
Would the Liverpool Echo have a memories page,
it might be worth contacting them,
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 06 September 12 21:26 BST (UK)
The name of his house   Innismore
I wonder if that is some thing to do with his birth background,


Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: heywood on Thursday 06 September 12 21:35 BST (UK)
Hello,

1881 has him born Enniskillen  (census transcribed as Alges)

heywood
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 06 September 12 21:37 BST (UK)
A possible connection


Lewis Algeo
marriage Enniskillen 1858

I am very unsure about researching in Ireland ,why dont you post on the Ireland board where it will be seen by people used to Irish Lookups,
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: maryj171 on Thursday 06 September 12 23:50 BST (UK)
Have you contacted present owners there are 2 listed addresses in 2011 phone book tel numbers (*) they might have old photos at least

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Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 07 September 12 08:26 BST (UK)
Hi
Have you looked on the webpage that Jvy20 suggested?

www.algeos.com

Click about Algeos at top right hand corner

Go down to Company history.

It says that he was born in Enniskillen in about 1847, his wife was from Liverpool and he married in 1876

There is a picture of Upper Parliament Street 1900 - it is only small but if you right click it, you can save it on your computer.

Heather
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: Puzzle on Friday 07 September 12 09:09 BST (UK)
Thanks for all your suggestions which I'm following up.  Yes, I'd seen the website and that John Algeo is definitely my chap, I'm going to have  a go at going down the Irish root and see what I can find, I know there was a big bust up before he came to England, but I thought he came from Donegal, not Eniskillen, but I don't remember very well and, like everyone else, didn"t ask the questions when I could, my mother died nearly 30 years ago.
Thanks everyone, it"s much appreciated.
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: SantaT on Friday 07 September 12 13:02 BST (UK)
I think your Algeos are originally from Leitrim.  The earliest Algeo I know of there is a Lewis Algeo of Glenboy, married about 1783 to Jane Ramage.    I have been working with descendants of a Robert Algeo of Hollymount, Leitrim.  Robert and Lewis are almost certainly related, possibly brothers.   This is a very complicated family history, complicated by multiple marriages and many occurrences of a figure named Robert Newcomen Algeo -- so many that I can't believe it's the same man -- but you will find that many Algeos in Liverpool descend from a marriage of Robert Newcomen Algeo to Isabella Forsyth in 1872.   That man was born in Leitrim in 1844.  I haven't worked out the descendants of that marriage -- this isn't even my line, although very fascinating to me for various reasons.   Also, you will find on Facebook a group for Algeos, where the administrator is an Algeo from Liverpool.  You might also check the Leitrim group on Rootschat.
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: Puzzle on Friday 07 September 12 21:30 BST (UK)
How complicated, but yes I will, and facebook too, thank you.  My mother always referred to the Algeos as 'black Irish' as they were supposed to be descendants of the Spaniards wrecked during the Spanish Armada, probably just a tale, but it is a Spanish name. Quite a story one way and another/
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: SantaT on Friday 07 September 12 22:07 BST (UK)
Actually, there are several pockets of Algeos in Ireland.   My own ancestors came from Donegal.  There are some in Tyrone, and some in Leitrim.  I think it is the Leitrim ones that came to Liverpool and area, although of course there was a lot of back and forth.    There was a line of Algeos in Renfrewshire, thought to descend from a Jacobo Algeo, who allegedly came to Paisley Abbey from Italy about 1483.  I have my doubts.  Anyway, it is clear than a Robert Algeo went from Scotland to Ireland (county Tyrone, if memory doesn't fail) about 1610.    It is possible that all the Algeo families in Ireland descend from this man.      But there are certainly adherents to the survivors of the Spanish Armada theory.   I am always looking for another male Algeo to do Y-DNA testing to compare against my brother's Y-DNA as I am coming to feel that is the only way this will get sorted. 
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: Puzzle on Saturday 08 September 12 10:28 BST (UK)
.......and I thought it would be simple with a name like that! Certainly there quite a few Algeos in Spain when I glanced through a telephone directory, but a glance it was, and I found quite a few from Liverpool in the Ellis Island records, but I wasn't seriously looking then. DNA testing seems interesting - but I live in France!
Title: Re: Algeo
Post by: SantaT on Saturday 08 September 12 13:19 BST (UK)
Since I think this may be veering off topic, I will send you a private message with further information.   I had heard of Algeos in France -- there is also an Algeo family in Italy, north of Venice.  THEY believe the family came from Greece!