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Title: Where is this place please?
Post by: bevbee on Sunday 02 September 12 17:07 BST (UK)
Does anyone know where Fair Lodge, near Llandilo was please? The National archives gives it like this;

Diocese: St David's
Parish: Llandeilo Fawr
Township: Fair Lodge
County: Carmarthenshire

and the Cambrian index says "near Llandilo"

but I can't find it mentioned anywhere else or find out where it was.

Any ideas please?

Thank you,

B.
Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: PHILCYMRO on Monday 17 September 12 20:30 BST (UK)
There are a few lodges around the mansion in Golden Grove and also the national botanical garden which is built on the land of Middleton Hall near Llanarthne. I hope this will be of some help. :-\
Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: bevbee on Tuesday 18 September 12 15:03 BST (UK)
Thanks, but it's not actually a lodge as in one house, but the name of an area, that's why I can't understand where it is. My family are from Golden Grove, but no-one seems to have heard of this so it must have changed it's name long ago, I think.  ???
Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: blodyn tatws on Friday 02 November 12 20:25 GMT (UK)
It is a lodge/farm as township relates to a country dwelling. Checked it out with national Archives when researching a will. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: bevbee on Sunday 04 November 12 12:13 GMT (UK)
Thank you for clearing that up that blodyn tatws - very much appreciated.

 ;)
Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 04 November 12 15:59 GMT (UK)
The "Llanelly Railway and Dock" planning application was published several times in the London Gazette and mentions a "Fair Lodge, Llandilo Fawr". It's just a pity the plans that accompanied the application weren't published!!
(use search key "caepontledis" rather than "fair lodge" to reduce "hits")

Slater's Directory of Glos, Herefs ..... 1859 mentions a "Rev Morgan Morgan, Fair Lodge, Llandilofawr".

Couldn't see it on the OS 1891 map- but have only checked grid ref 033/SE.
Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: z on Sunday 04 November 12 16:38 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thought this worth a mention as I found a Fair Lodge here:-

Parish - Llandilofawr Hamlet of Pentre cwn

1851 H0107 2471 320 5 - Superintendent Registrars Dist Llandilofawr - Registrars Dist Llandilo

Regards

Z :)
Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 04 November 12 20:36 GMT (UK)
Re the '51 Census, on the next census page after Fair Lodge is "Lovelodge Mill".

"Old Maps"  http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html

coordinates are  262763   221487    and when loaded, choose "1884-1887 Map" of Carmarthenshire. Wonder if "Fair Lodge" disappeared under the railway development?

Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: Yasmina4 on Monday 05 November 12 20:45 GMT (UK)
Just woondered could Fair Lodge be another name for Fair Fach?  Sandra
Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: bevbee on Wednesday 07 November 12 19:11 GMT (UK)
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Re the '51 Census, on the next census page after Fair Lodge is "Lovelodge Mill".

I know Love Lodge, so if it's near that it gives me a good idea of location - thank you.

 ;)

Title: Re: Where is this place please?
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 07 November 12 21:01 GMT (UK)
Re "Fair Lodge" as a "lodge/farm" still puzzled by the following

Hereford Journal, Wed 7 October, 1807
"Sunday Schools have been lately opened at Rumney, near Tredegar, Monmouthshire and at Fair Lodge, Heol Galed, Cwm-Ammon, and Cwm-Keep, in the parish of Llandilo-vawr".