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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: John-H on Saturday 01 September 12 13:21 BST (UK)
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Trying to trace `any` records for Patrick Hannon (my great grandfather) possibly born 1868 Kildorrery, County Cork. I have found `possible` parents for Patrick - Daniel Hannon & Margaret Sisk no dates of BMD for either.
Patrick Hannon`s son Thomas Hannon 1886-1942 (my grandfather) is buried near to where I live.
I did (foolishily or not) take on a genealogist based in Ireland who said that she would trace all records for me - but months have passed since and...................................nothing.
And yes I did foolishly send money. Can`t say much else as it is in hands of solicitors.
I`ve been unable to find Patrick on Ireland`s census 1901 or 1911. I`ve been through all the usual websites `roots-Ireland` etc, etc.
I do understand that a lot of records were lost in the 1922 civil war, but no harm in asking.
Thanks in advance for any info.
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Trying to trace `any` records for Patrick Hannon (my great grandfather) possibly born 1868 Kildorrery, County Cork. I have found `possible` parents for Patrick - Daniel Hannon & Margaret Sisk no dates of BMD for either.
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starting at the beginning - do you have a marriage cert for Patrick ?
This should show his father's name and occupation...
see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
Shane
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Trying to trace `any` records for Patrick Hannon (my great grandfather) possibly born 1868 Kildorrery, County Cork. I have found `possible` parents for Patrick - Daniel Hannon & Margaret Sisk no dates of BMD for either.
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starting at the beginning - do you have a marriage cert for Patrick ?
This should show his father's name and occupation...
see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
Shane
I know that. But I do not have any records for Patrick
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I'd start with the marriage record then - do you've any idea where and when Patrick married ?
Shane
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Patrick Hannon`s son Thomas Hannon 1886-1942 (my grandfather) is buried near to where I live.
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just to explain my question abut the marriage - I was assuming you have a birth or baptism record for Thomas which would show his mother's name .. and help hence locate the marriage for Patrick..
S.
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I'd start with the marriage record - do you've any idea where and when Patrick married ?
Shane
Unable to trace who Patrick was married to or obtain where married. Unable to trace/get birth certificate for his son Thomas which would have name of mother on it. I do know that Cork is a big place ;D.There is one record on ancestry.co for a Thomas Hannon born in Clogheen and the years match - but so do several others.
Not to worry though. Maybe I`ll treat myself next year with a trip to the Emerald Isle ;D
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unfortunately quite a few registration districts in Co. Cork, and also a common surname in the area..
You didn't mention where Thomas ended up, but if it was England, Wales or Scotland then it's worth checking the 1911 census, if you haven't already, to see if a more detailed place of birth is listed.
Shane
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Hello,
Firstly, sorry to hear that you have had trouble with someone here in Ireland regarding genealogy lookups. But I've just had a quick look on www.rootsireland.ie in the Cork section, and have found a Patrick Hannon with those parents you have given:
Church Baptism Hannan Patrick 1868 Kildorrey (RC) Co. Cork with parents being Daniel Hannon and Margaret Sisk. I have also found 4 other children born to those parents also:
Honora Hannon 1869 Kildorrey (RC)
Mary Ann Hannon 1870 Kildorrey (RC)
Margaret Hannon 1873 Kildorrey (RC)
Ellen Hannon 1877 Fermoy (RC)
There's a Patrick Hannon here on the 1901 Census in Kildorrey, Co. Cork http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Kildorrery/Quitrent_Mountain/1152297/ and in 1911 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Killdorrery/Quitrent_Mountain/438025/ but I don't think he's yours.
Really hope this helps you in some way,
Annie
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I think the problem at the moment is that there's is not enough information yet to establish a link to that, or any other couple as parents for John's gt-grandfather Patrick.
A few more details and certs for the known ancestor, i.e. Thomas, might be be the way to progress this search..
S.
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Hi John
1. If Thomas Hannon was born abt 1886 - was that in Cork ?
2. Did he stay in Cork - if so he should be on the 1901 Census ?
3. Whom did Thomas marry and when and where - do you have a marriage cert for Thomas to confirm his father's name and occupation ?
Answering all of the above will help track him down and so help to bring you back further with your search !
Tara
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Hi John
1. If Thomas Hannon was born abt 1886 - was that in Cork ?
2. Did he stay in Cork - if so he should be on the 1901 Census ?
3. Whom did Thomas marry and when and where - do you have a marriage cert for Thomas to confirm his father's name and occupation ?
Answering all of the above will help track him down and so help to bring you back further with your search !
Tara
Hello Tara,
I can not be 100% that Thomas was born in Cork but I`m about 90% he was. My cousin is positive it was County Cork (of which I know is a big place).
Did he stay in Cork? Sorry I can not answer that question and neither can my cousins or brothers.
Thomas did get married. Father`s name is recorded as I`ve mentioned, `Patrick Hannon` occupation miner. Wife - Mary Spoor, Married At Low Teams, Gateshead, County Durham (now Tyne and Wear), England. St. Pauls Church. August 15, 1914.
When and if I manage to obtain Thomas` birth certificate/record, then I`m sure more doors will open and I`ll be able to enter these records into my tree on my fathers side of the family.
So here`s to more long hours into the wee early hours of morning ;D
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Forgot to mention: Thomas Hannon is buried in `Garden House Cemetery`, Swallwell, Gateshead, Tyne and Wear.
Died 24th December, 1942, aged 56.