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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: kathy-9 on Thursday 30 August 12 20:32 BST (UK)
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I am researching the Huguenots and their flight to the various countries during the French Civil War 1550 ish.They fled to Scotland, Ireland and the North Americas, anywhere with a growing Presbysterian or particularly protestant following. I have reason to believe that my family Quirey were part of the refugee movement to Ireland. Has anyone any information on the Huguenot influx to Northern Ireland, and in particular, to the Quirey family?
My furthest research takes me to William Quirey, late 1800s, Engine driver in Belfast. His daughter, Sarah, was my great great grandmother, married 1870 to Thomas McMaster in Church of Ireland, Belfast.
Thx, Kathy
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Hi Kathy,
The standard online reference to the history of the Huguenot influx in to Ulster is http://lisburn.com/books/huguenots/huguenots.html .
Lots of names there, though nothing like QUIREY is listed unfortunately.
Also, many references (at end of Chapter 5).
The influx in to the North didn't really start till after the Cromwellian Commonwealth period.
[Earlier (Elizabethan times) settlements had taken place in Cork, Dublin and had created Port Arlington.]
http://www.huguenotsinireland.com/huguenotsirelandsites.html
The Huguenots had their own church at Lisburn, but were quickly assimilated within the Church of Ireland.
[Though the De BREQUET (BREAKEY) family chose to be non-conformist.]
Saumarez DUBORDIEU got his name from John de SAUMAREZ from Guernsey in the channel islands. JdS, along with several other powerful mariner families from there, operated the massive shipping trade with London, residing there and supplying mayors of that city several times.
JdS befriended many of the Huguenot refugees whose community was concentrated in Spitalfields, many being linen and silk weavers.
Louis CROMMELIN came with some money, and tried several speculative ventures e.g. founding Newtown Crommelin.
The De La CHEROIS family had few resources, but eventually managed to marry in to the MONTGOMERY family, getting their hands on many of their estate lands in the North of County Down in 1770.
Some ventures also involved brewing.
www.calvinus.com
Best of luck, and Cheers!
Revving Jock
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Hi,
A William Quirey married Clara McVicker in Carnmoney Church of Ireland in 1846.
Regards
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Hallo Jock, fascinating stuff isnt it. Thx for the links which will be keeping me busy for some time.
Thinking of the name Quirey, which I have been doing for some time, what about the name 'Curie'? that is a Franch name, remember Marie Curie.
As for trades, i have no idea whatsoever, though I vaguely remember that somewhere in that family there was dressmaker, sewing link. Lets see where it goes from here.
Thx again, any other links you come up with, gratefully received.
:D :D :D
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Hi Kinkerswell,
Yes I imagine that this William Querey is the father of Sarah, my g g grandmother. They seemed to be around the Ballymena/Belfast - ish area. I have just begun to trace this thread to any other info you got is very gratefully received - , like, how would I find out about other children of William, andis there a way to go back yet another generation from William? All info gratefully received, Kathy:)
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btw Clara is a name that runs in the family, I bet this is William and Clara, my g g g grandparents. :)
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Hi,
My father's maternal line is: mother Margaret Jane Kerr 1889 - 1987(her sister Mary Annie), her mother: Martha Haveron 1867-1895 (sister, Nancy Agnes 1861 and brother, William 1864), her mother Margaret Hamilton 1840-1867. All born in and around Islandmagee / Carrickfergus.
My father did his MTDNA with Family Tree DNA. We found an Agnes Quirey who is in the tree of a DNA match. She is the only person in that tree who is close to County Antrim. Agnes was Born: Carrickfergus, County Antrim, Northern Ireland May. 19, 1814. Died: Bloomington, Monroe, Indiana, United States Sep. 7, 1891. Agnes married Gilbert Thompson: Born: Carrickfergus, County Antrim, Northern Ireland Jun. 7, 1813; Died: Bloomington, Monroe, Indiana, USA Feb. 2, 1890
I’m trying to find out more about Agnes Quirey’s family to see if/where/how she is related to me.
In my search I found the following information which may be of interest to someone:
The will of Joseph Quirey of Hollybank, Co. antrim:
Title : Date of Death : 15 February 1887
Surname : Quirey Date of Grant : 11 March 1887
Forename : Joseph Reseal Date :
Registry : Belfast Effects : Effects £1,621 5s. 5d.
The Will (with one Codicil) of Joseph Quirey late of Holly Bank Monkstown County Antrim Farmer who died 15 February 1887 at same place was proved at Belfast by Alexander Farquhar and John Quirey both of Monkstown Farmers the Executors.
Here is some info from the will:
His brother was John. John had a son John, daughters eliza, Sarah Jane (Wilson) and Mary Ann (Vint)
His brother was James. James had a daughter Margaret (Burney), Eliza, Jane.
Another brother was Allan. Allan had son Robert and Joseph and John.
His sister was Jane (Wilson). Also mentioned are William John Wilson and Mary Quirey Wilson.
Source: http://apps.proni.gov.uk
Joseph Quirey was born about 1801. Joseph died in March 1887 in Belfast, Antrim, Northern Ireland, having lived a long life of 86 years.
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more books
The Huguenots and Ireland : anatomy of an emigration Dun Laoghaire : Glendale, 1987.
Ireland's debt to the Huguenots Knox, Samuel James Dublin : A.P.C.K, 1959.
L'influence des Huguenots français en Irlande aux XVII° et XVIII° siècles Carré, Albert Lucien. Paris : Les Presses universitaires de France, 1937.
there are more try
http://lh-lms.qub.ac.uk/search/?searchtype=X&SORT=D&searcharg=huguenots
perhaps more variants are important see the tithe-applotment books below are the index records the slightly uller accounts are in PRONI Belfasts eg who will have more records its essential to use
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/carnmoney-parish.php#.V1VxLFeoc5QQuerey, Alexr. Townland: Monkstown Year: 1835
Querey, John Townland: Ballyhone Year: 1835
Querey, John Townland: Monkstown Year: 1835
Querey, Saml. Townland: Jordanstown Year: 1835
Querey, Saml. Townland: Monkstown Year: 1835
Querry, Mrs. Townland: Monkstown Year: 1835
Querry, Alexr. Townland: Jordanstown Year: 1835
Querry, Alexr. Townland: Monkstown Year: 1835
Querry, John Townland: Monkstown Year: 1835
Querry, Jonathan Townland: Monkstown Year: 1835
Quirry, Saml. Townland: Jordanstown Year: 1835
a bit later under 30 years is Griffiths valuation the quick index on http://www.failteromhat.com reveals
Quirey William Whiteabbey,Whiteabbey Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey William Monkstown,Monkstown Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey Samuel Jordanstown Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey Catherine Dock Townparks Bentinck Street Shankill Antrim
Quirey Margaret Dock Townparks North Thomas Street Shankill Antrim
Quirey Margaret Dock Townparks North Thomas Street Shankill Antrim
Quirey Catherine Dock Townparks Bentinck Street Shankill Antrim
Quirey Robert Monkstown,Monkstown Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey Robert Jordanstown Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey John, Jr. Monkstown,Monkstown Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey Jane Monkstown,Monkstown Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey John, Sr. Monkstown,Monkstown Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey Joseph Monkstown,Monkstown Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey Robert Croghfern Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey Robert Ballyhowne Carnmoney Antrim
Quirey Andrew Ballyduff Carnmoney Antrim
Useing the maps on the more deyailed site http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ you could map all the homesteads in each townland which sometimes suggests more occupations by the types of buildings
in 1796 the flax growers included by sound Curry but none of the name as you have found it.
good luck onwards
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Hello Kathy, I have an interest in the Quirey family from Carnmoney (approx 6 miles north of Belfast), as one of my blood relatives, ie: Elizabeth Girvin married a John Quirey (c1846-1886), on the 7th of March 1871 at Duncairn Presbyterian Church, Belfast. He died at his mother-in-law's home, 52 Regent Street, Belfast.
I have in my possession a record of the baptisms, marriage dates and deaths of members of the Quirey family, who lived in the Carnmoney area from the late 18th century, so I thought you might like to know some of these details.
The above named, John Quirey (c1846-1886), was the son of Joseph Quirey (1819-77) and Jane Smyth (born: 1825). Joseph and Jane, had a family of 13 children ( 6 daughters and 7 sons). Joseph Quirey, was one of six children born to Andrew Quirey (c1785-1876) and Hannah Corsby. Going back one further generation (which is as far as my document provides), Andrew Quirey (c1785-1876) was one of four children born to Robert Quirey (c1760- 7th June 1798) and Nancy Douglas. According to the document, Robert was killed at The Battle of Antrim.
I am interested to learn that you think they might be of Hugenot origin. At least one family from the same area, ie: the Dubois (spelling has several variants recorded over the centuries), were originally from France. That's all for now, and I hope this has been of interest to you.
Regards, Allister Girvin.
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Hi Allister, nice to meet you! I have spent some time on Ancestry this afternoon trying to connect up your John 1846 with my William 1825. My William's father was Robert Fulton Qiurey, who may be the key in this puzzle, maybe your John was a brother of Robert Fulton, or even William. Siblings could stretch over a lot of years in most families then! I would love to see your certificates! And I will be glad to share what I have with you.
Great to meet you!
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Hello Kathy,
Unfortunately I cannot find a Robert Fulton Quirey in the record which I have (my documents are
photocopies of genealogical info which was transcribed by William Fee McKinney of Sentry Hill, Carnmoney. This is held by the Public Records Office, Titanic Quarter, Belfast, and the reference number is: T/1013. William has recorded numerous genealogies of families in the Carnmoney area, from approximately 1708 up till his death in 1917. I have attempted to piece together some families who are connected to my own from 1917-present.
I don't have any copies of birth/death/marriage certificates, though when I last worked on the Quirey family about 15 years ago, I most likely acquired some info from Wills , gravestone inscriptions, newspapers etc. I also have records regarding the Fulton family, which I'd be happy to share with you if you are interested (as they also crop up several times within my 'extended' family). That's all for now.
Regards, Allister.
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Hello Allister,
I have Quirey and Girvin names in my tree. I do have John Quirey, son of Joseph Quirey and Jane Smyth. I do have the will of Joseph who died 1877. I am not sure where Joseph who died 1887 fits - who were his parents?
I would love to know more about John and his siblings. I also have a Margaret Girven who married John Burney, had son John Burney, who married Sarah Smyth.
Peggy
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Hi Peggy 13 - have you got any further information on John Burney (b1759 or 1768) and Margaret Girven (b1772) and their son John Burney (b1802) and Sarah Symth (b1807).
Bec
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I have unverified info that John Burney was born Apr 22, 1759 and that he married Margaret Girven Sept 20, 1792. I have 6 children for them, one of which was John Burney born Jan 13, 1802 who married Sarah Smyth Oct 15, 1828. John Burney died June 27, 1877 which should be easy to verify on irishgenealogy.ie.
John and Sarah had daughter Isabella Sept 28, 1843 who married John Alexander McKinney May 31, 1871 in Carnmoney.
I was interested in the McKinney connection as it tracks back to the marriage of Thomas George married to Isabella Carson, who was a sister to my Jenny Carson married to Samuel Carson Boyd. I thought possibly there might be info on Jenny in the William Fee McKinney records.
Peggy
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Hi again Kathy-9,
Watched a TV programme about Marie CURIE last night.
[The first ever person to be awarded two Nobel prizes, in different branches of Science.]
CURIE was her married name, adopted from her husband Pierre.
His family were Hugenots.
[She was Polish.]
Both were lifted from the rural family grave and were reburied within The Pantheon in Paris.
[After checking that they weren't too radioactive so as to pose a public risk!]
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However, I think that I may have found you a much stronger candidate for the origins of your QUIREY surname, with good resonances with the alternative spellings encountered in Ireland.
It is "Le QUÉRÉ". Meaning: "The Cobbler".
[So a good honest feet-on-the-ground "artisanal/occupational" name.]
Apparently, French surnames beginning "QU" are strongly indicative of origins from Brittany.
[Though not exclusively so ...]
Many Hugenots escaped through the Channel Islands.
[e.g. Saumarez DUBORDIEU, strapped to the back of his 90-year-old great-grandfather.]
Found plenty for you to chomp on amongst the residents of Jersey!
Now, all I have to do is find my mis-filed copious research notes ...
[Thought that I had better update you from memory in the meantime.]
Back again soon!
Capt. Jock
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Hey Captain Jock, I was revisiting my Rootschat posts and I love that you found a possible match between quirey and Curie, that would be too good to be true! I will research this more and see what I come up with!
Fascinating history isn’t it .. iam in the middle of researching the z highland Clearancesin Scotland at this time .. all sorts of ancestors misplaced.
Thank you!