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I am looking for the marriage record of William Nesbitt and Eliza ??. The marriage date is 10 Nov 1842 (or 1845) per the Civil War Pension File for William Nesbitt. Pension states they were married in Killagan by Rev. Robert Wright. I'm looking for the maiden name of Eliza (Elizabeth) and possibly parents to extend the family. Also any children born in Ireland. They immigrated approx. 3 years after marriage but first known child is born in 1851, Pennsylvania, leading me to believe there may be some earlier ones who likely died as they are not mentioned in the Pension File. Pension File uses 1842 multiple times but once as 1845. Age of William in the pension places his birth about 1817 (Elizabeth about 1823 per census records) and states William born in Dublin. I have found a record in the Family History Library, Utah, for William Nesbitt and Eliza Patterson in Kiltegan, Wicklow on 10 Nov 1845 but have not viewed the film. The geography plays better with Dublin. Matching the Reverend will be key to correct identification. Any local help is appreciated.
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Am a bit puzzled with your post so perhaps you could clarify it.
William Nesbitt born (possibly) Dublin and possible marriage for William and Eliza in Co. Wicklow (not far from Dublin) but you've posted this on Antrim board (nowhere near either Dublin or Wicklow)? Is there an Antrim connection that you haven't mentioned?
Note: the Nesbitt/Patterson marriage is listed on www.familysearch.org (bride's name Elisa). It is page number 233 in civil register.
William Nesbitt 1845 Baltinglass registration district volume 2 page 233.
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William's address at the time of marriage was Donoughmore, the one that most readily comes to mind is a considerable distance away just northwest of Cork.
Added: Correction, there is a Donoughmore Parish in Co. Wicklow, so that would appear to fit...
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The reason I posted in Antrim as that is where I found a Killagan. But I'm not sure if there is only one Killagan. Or if the Pension record place named is completely accurate. If it has a spelling error things change, I'm hoping those in the know can help me fine tune this. As I said if the Reverend matches in the marriage record we can be sure we found the right one. These seem to be pretty common names. The pension record does state that William was born in Dublin but nothing about the origins of Eliza. So geography plays a part here. Which way and how far do we go from Dublin to find our bride?
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I think Killagan may simply be a corruption of Kiltegan. Reason being, there's mention of a marriage of another couple in the Freeman's journal of Aug 1844 at Kiltegan and the marriage is by... one Rev. Robert Wright.
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In 1848 (Thom's) Robert Wright is listed as the incumbent of the parish of 'Kilranelagh and Kiltegan' in Co. Wicklow. The post town listed for him is Baltinglass.
These parishes are located in the south west of Co. Wicklow bordering Co. Carlow but also close to Co. Kildare.
Shane
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I think this is their marriage. This is from Family Search Irish Marriages
Moderator Note: cut & paste from LDS site removed- see here for marriage record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGJX-DBH
You can buy this record at:
http://www.rootsireland.ie/
RosemaryJoan
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or purchase a civil cert from the GRO :
Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,599538.0.html)
(the references you need are included in reply #1 of this thread)
S.
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By the way, Kiltegan is the adjoining Parish to Donaghmore in Wo. Wicklow
RosemaryJoan
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Thank you all. You are leading me closer to a conclusion. I wondered if Kiltegan was perhaps more correct than Killagan. It seems to be more geographically connected to Dublin and the Wicklow marriage is of high interest. Interesting to find Rev. Robert Wright there as well. I still hope to find the actual record and check for any children for this couple born before they left Ireland. A clue to parentage would also be wonderful. The Wicklow marriage is accessible to me on film at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City but right now I don't have the time to pay a visit to look at the record thus I'm drawing on other resources like you for help. Thank you.
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You can buy this marriage record immediately online from rootsireland.ie and this SHOULD give you the names of the fathers.
Cannot find any children born in Ireland to this couple.
RosemaryJoan
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You can buy this marriage record immediately online from rootsireland.ie and this SHOULD give you the names of the fathers.
Many pre-registration church registers only record date, bride and groom so fathers might not be mentioned.
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I actually did get a chance to look at the Film 101266, page 233, for this marraige. Most of the info aligns correctly. Date 10 Nov 1845, place - Kiltegan, Wicklow, Robert White, Vicar - bingo. Bride's age - OK, Groom's age - Not OK, should be 5-6 years older, listed as 1 year younger. Unfortunately, fathers - Unknown. Groom and bride residence a good lead to further research. Too many things line up to get hung up on an age. What are the chances that Robert Wright traveled and performed more than one marriage for a William Nesbitt to bride Eliza both on 10 Nov three years apart. If anyone can see a good reason not to accept this as the marriage I'm looking for please let me know. I should have looked to see if any other records on the same page had parents noted or did the recorder skip that info on all of them.
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I am tracing my ancestry back through Pennsylvania to William Nesbitt (born circa 1817 in Ireland). Can I contact or be contacted by "CarrollC" to obtain the Civil War Pension File for William Nesbitt? The US Civil War Pension Index shows an invalid application no. 2818 in 1862, and a widow application 63331 in 1864.
I am looking for the marriage record of William Nesbitt and Eliza ??. The marriage date is 10 Nov 1842 (or 1845) per the Civil War Pension File for William Nesbitt. Pension states they were married in Killagan by Rev. Robert Wright. I'm looking for the maiden name of Eliza (Elizabeth) and possibly parents to extend the family. Also any children born in Ireland. They immigrated approx. 3 years after marriage but first known child is born in 1851, Pennsylvania, leading me to believe there may be some earlier ones who likely died as they are not mentioned in the Pension File. Pension File uses 1842 multiple times but once as 1845. Age of William in the pension places his birth about 1817 (Elizabeth about 1823 per census records) and states William born in Dublin. I have found a record in the Family History Library, Utah, for William Nesbitt and Eliza Patterson in Kiltegan, Wicklow on 10 Nov 1845 but have not viewed the film. The geography plays better with Dublin. Matching the Reverend will be key to correct identification. Any local help is appreciated.
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Hi,
I am researching my family tree and wonder if William Nesbitt had a son in 1852 called Alexander Nesbitt died 7th April 1941 in Dublin. He was married to Elizabeth George.
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Don't know if CarrollC still looking but came across this and perhaps it relates to William Nesbitt.
Will of William Patterson Nesbitt
probated 5 June 1914
of Bailies Mills,Cargycreevy, county Down flaxdresser who died 28 March 1914 at Ballymena, county Antrim granted to Samuel Nesbitt flaxdresser £608 6s
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HarrisonDW, saw your post in relation to William Nesbitt and came across these, which you may or may not have.
Marriage:
Alexander Nesbitt full age bachelor occ: draper res: Drumcondra,Dublin father:William Nesbitt-draper
married on 2 August 1881 Belfast
Elizabeth George full age spinster res:Belmont father:Gabriel George-merchant
Marriage at Belmont,parish of Holywood, county Down
Will of William Nesbitt probated 8 November 1899
Probate of will of William Nesbitt,late of Randalstown county Antrim,farmer, died 2 August 1899, granted at Belfast to Alexander Nesbitt of Drumcondra road,Dublin occupation:draper. Effects: £34.00
Death:
William Nesbitt
died: 2 August 1899
Randalstown,Drummaul
married 86 years old
Gentleman
cerebral haemorhage
Informant: Annie Nesbitt widow present
1901 census:
Main Street,Randalstown,county Antrim
Annie Nesbitt age 67 head of house Presbyterian born: county Derry occ: farmer widow
Lizzie Nesbitt age 28 daughter Presbyterian born: county Antrim occ: farmer's daughter single
14 January 1907
Randalstown,Drummaul
Annie Nesbitt widow age:73 widow of William Nesbitt merchant lobar pneumonia informant: Elizabeth Nesbitt present at death Randalstown
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Welcome to RootsChat, HarrisonDW :)
Some links-
1901 census:
Main Street,Randalstown,county Antrim
Annie Nesbitt age 67 head of house Presbyterian born: county Derry occ: farmer widow
Lizzie Nesbitt age 28 daughter Presbyterian born: county Antrim occ: farmer's daughter single
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Randalstown/Main_Street/920004/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4201806#map=13/54.7369/-6.2795
14 January 1907
Randalstown,Drummaul
Annie Nesbitt widow age:73 widow of William Nesbitt merchant lobar pneumonia informant: Elizabeth Nesbitt present at death Randalstown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05541/4553810.pdf
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4201806#map=17/54.74974/-6.31890 (Main Street, Randalstown)