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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Sligo => Topic started by: llessurnosnevets on Friday 17 August 12 20:42 BST (UK)
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Hi - anyone out there who can help me find out about the Mulroney family from Sligo.
Mary Mulroney came over th England via Liverpool and ended up in the North East - Durham- via Addingham in Yorkshire -she married an Edward Miller.
Regards,
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Hello,
do you have any dates to help us?
Do you have her father's name from her marriage certificate?
regards
heywood
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Thanks -father's name was Mathew.
Sorry that's all I know.
Many thanks
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Do you not know any dates e.g. birth/marriage/when in England etc
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If Mary was born after 1864, you can search Irish births at Family Search Irish Civil Indexes (http://familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1408347)
If she was born before that date, you would need to know her religious denomination and townland or parish to search church records.
Here are some pointers for you:
My Ancestor came from Ireland- where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html)
Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
regards
heywood
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Many thanks
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Griffiths Valuation (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/) which was taken around 1850s doesn't have any Mulroney names :-\ for Sligo.
Was she living in Ireland at the time of the Irish censuses - 1901/1911?
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Mary married Edward miller in 1853.....born Sligo circa 1833
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Thank you - was the marriage in England?
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I can see the family in Yorkshire and Durham - when was she in Liverpool?
There is a Thomas with her in 1871- her brother.
1851 has a Molrooney family from Sligo living in Knaresborough.
Bridget 42 yrs, Michael 16 yrs and Thomas 12 yrs.
This Thomas' age is similar to brother in 1871.
Looking at 1861 - it does look to be the right family. Have you seen these?
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Did not know the Knaresborogh bit or the other people.......other than Thomas.
On the 1861 census she put Liverpool down as her place of birth but on the 1871 census she puts Sligo.
Also on the 1871 census is a Thomas (brother) aged 31.
I am almost certain Mary's father was called Mathew.
As I say, it's the Sligo piece I would love more information on but the Knaresborough info you have given me is really interesting.
Thanks.
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Do you have details of them living in 1851 in Knaresborough from the census by any chance?
Many thanks
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In order to search in Sligo, you really need more information.
1851 2283/192/18
Abbey Road Knaresborough
Bridget Molrooney head widow 42 yrs Farm servant b Sligo
Michael Molrooney son 16 yrs farm servant b Sligo
Thomas Molrooney son 12 yrs farm servant b Sligo
1861 3204/ 109/10
Grotto, Knaresborough
Bridget Malroney widow 63 yrs Laundress
Michael Malroney son 24 yrs Mason's labourer
Thos Malroney son 22 yrs Bleacher
James Firth grandson 5 yrs b Keitley Yorkshire
James was born Keighley I think in 1871 and there is a birth for James Mulrooney in 1856- don't know where 'Firth' comes from.
Bridget and sons are born 'Irland'.
As you can see Bridget's age varies but this is quite common.
1871, Bridget is at Spittalcrofts, Knaresborough aged 65 yrs.
Is Mary's marriage in 1853- Edward Milner and Mary Moran?
It would be best to check her father's name from her marriage certificate.
regards
heywood
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You are very kind to do this for me.......thank you.
Unfortunately I don't have Edward and Mary's marriage certificate to check Mary's father name......
Is there any record of where Mary is in 1851?
Regards,
Russ
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Not really -which is a puzzle as the others are around and it does seem to be her family. She could be in service somewhere but still can't see a likely person and of course her name could be mistranscribed.
Are you sure about her marriage? If that is the one in 1853, it would be a good idea to get the certificate to check her father's name. It may not really be much help in tracing the family in Ireland though.
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There may be details too on the marriage cert- address/witnesses.
I think that Alice was born in Keighley and the nearest I can see is that in 1851 in Keighley, there are 2 Mary Mallarkeys entered on the census. They are together but aged 20 yrs and 16 yrs - both born County Sligo. There is nothing to show that the younger one is your Mary though.
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Thanks for your help on this really appreciated.
Regards
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Message for Heywood (hope this finds you),
The marriage in 1853 of Edward Milner to Mary Mulroney - after 8 years of looking I have managed to obtain a copy.......the certificate shows Edward Milner marrying a Mary Moran and her Father was called Mathew (Farmer).
Any ideas why she would put Moran on the certificate.
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Hello :)
Was she a spinster on the marriage certificate? I would imagine she was, only about 20yrs old.
Were all the children registered with mother as Mulroney?
Do the witness names help at all? Family members?
It is difficult to say re the name - could have been misunderstood maybe.
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Hello Heywood,
Thanks for your quick reply - much appreciated.
Mary was a spinster. Children were registered to Mary but spelling of her maiden name we’re all different spellings of Mulroney. Cannot comment re witness names but none of the two ring any bells.
With her being Irish and living in Yorkshire at the time of her marriage, they may not have understood her dialect.
What I’m struggling to ascertain is why she was in Addingham in 1853 when she was married.
Any ideas or how I can find out - suspect she was in service.
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Women’s occupations were not often shown on marriage certificates.
If there is an address, you could check that for clues in 1851.
You could check the witnesses - the female one - were was she living in 1851. Was she in service?
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Thanks for your help once again with this...may be in touch again in 8 years time.
Unfortunately I don’t have access to the 1851 census and the address on the marriage certificate for both Edward and Mary just shows Addingham.
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You can search censuses on Family Search. It is limited to transcriptions though.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/
You can choose records by clicking ‘browse all coll3ctions’.
You need to sign in but it is free.