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This "c/o C.P.R. Belfast" is written in the "Last Address is United Kingdom" column on a passenger listing for a voyage from Ireland to Canada in 1934. The two travellers were returning to Canada after what I believe was their "honeymoon". (The ship's name is "Duchess of Richmond".) Part of their trip was spent in Fermanagh... apart from that I don't think I know anything about them that would be of assistance.
Thanks, snoons.
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My guess is Canadian Pacific Railway. I had a relative who went to work with them in the mid 1910s.
Josey
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Hi Josey,
oh wow, that was speedy, and guess what, the "groom" wrote a letter on "Canadian Pacific Railway Company" letterhead in 1935 from his address in Canada to an Australian cousin. That's how I found out about him. You're too clever!
I would never have thought of that!
Do you mean Canadian Pacific Railway had an office in Belfast?
snoons.
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You get a speedy response on rootschat ;D.
I think they recruited there at one time - though the 1930s seems a little late. Maybe they wer einto shipbuilding?
Through its history, CPR got into numerous other ventures including abattoirs, animal husbandry, bus transportation, china and crockery, containers and pallets, forestry, foundries, immigration and colonization, insurance, irrigation, manufacturing, milling and foodstuff, mines and minerals, newsreels, oil, pulp and paper, radio broadcasts, stockyards, supply farms, trucking, waste management, even bottled spring water. In 1942, CPR even took to the skies, amalgamating 10 northern bush plane companies into Canadian Pacific Airlines.
You can see the history here
http://www.cpr.ca/en/about-cp/our-past-present-and-future/pages/default.aspx
Josey
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Thanks for that.
Unfortunately I don't recognise any of the names etc re your research interests. Otherwise I think you'd be a handy relative!
Cheers, snoons.
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Don’t put too much weight on the “railway” portion of the name CPR, as CPR is used generically for the whole of the CP business empire.
The Duchess of Richmond was owned by Canadian Pacific Steamship Lines and in 1934 routinely carried passengers on the route Liverpool-Greenock-Belfast-Montreal.
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Did CPR also own the Duchess of Athol? I believe this is the ship the newlyweds travelled on to Ireland in 1934.
Oh, and on 1911 Canadian Census it states that Henry, groom, worked for the Railway...
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Yes, the Duchess of Atholl was also owned by CP and in 1934 travelled the same route as her sister ship.
As you do not seem to have told us any of the names of your relatives (other than a Henry) I cannot comment on the 1911 Canadian Census finding. However working on the railway was a coveted job in Canada and the UK at that time.
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Sorry, no big secret - groom's name is (according to a letter written by him to an Aust. cousin in 1935) Henry Grattan ROBINSON. I've found a birth registration for him in Lancashire England, in the name of Martin Henry Grattan ROBINSON, mother's maiden name: WOOD.
I have found a marriage registration transcription for mother, Ann Jane WOODS to a William ROBINSON in Fermanagh Ireland, on marriage papers he states he is from Preston Lancashire and his father's name is William.
Also in Preston, Lancashire, 2 years later, a registration for a Florence Eugenia ROBINSON also with mother's maiden name WOOD.
In the letter in 1935 to Aust. cousin Henry mentions his sister Florence...
Ann Jane WOODS is a sister to my 3 great grandmother. My 3 grt grandmother emigrated to Aust in 1856 after marrying in Dec 1855 in Fermanagh Ireland, and apart from her parent's names I hadn't known of any siblings....
snoons
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However working on the railway was a coveted job in Canada and the UK at that time.
I didn't know that. A great uncle Jeremiah O'Driscoll started work for them sometime in the early 1910s, then in 1913 his wife Julia [Allen] went out with their 3 children Mary Ann, Edmund and Cornelius to meet him in Ontario. Their immigration record states "JULIA O'DRISCOLL 30 GOING TO HUSBAND IN OTTOWA, ONT - RAIL ROAD LAB ROMAN CATHOLIC GOING VIA C.P.R. WITH MARY A 7 EDMUND M 4 CORNELIUS 2MTHS". They ended up in Montreal, where Cornelius married. I have long wanted to contact their descendants but have so far failed.
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Josey,
Not to hijack Snoons’ thread, but it looks like you got a considerable amount of information in 2009 from Ancestry.ca.
Cornelius will be long dead, but you are now into the area of living relatives and the best source is by picking up the phone and chatting with people. Cornelius O’Driscoll is an unusual name so it should not take long.
Do a lookup on www.Canada411.ca and you will find that there are only 8 O’Driscoll’s in the province of Quebec, mostly clustered around Montreal. In addition there are 5 C. O’Driscolls in Ontario. Fathers tend to force their names on their children!
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Yes, I was helped a lot a few years ago. I will pm you with earlier results of carrying out the sort of contacts you have suggested.
Josey.