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Title: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: UKSEARCH on Thursday 16 August 12 08:25 BST (UK)
Hello,

Looking for any information relating to the Barlow family:

John Marshall Barlow b 1844 m to Mary Ann Seddon
Charles Ellis Barlow 1881 m Esther Leckie 1882. The family were large, located in Liverpool and I have traced them to Abenbury, Wales.

Would be grateful for any insight on why they moved to Liverpool. The Welsh family business was dissolved (forge - iron/bricks?), but I suspect that there may still be a Barlow connection up to modern day.

Would also be keen to hear of any connection to the Boer / Crimean  & WW1. It would be unlikely that the family would not have served in at least one of these conflicts and this info would confirm family stories.

Thanks for your help.   
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: UKSEARCH on Thursday 16 August 12 09:01 BST (UK)
Hello,

Looking for any information relating to the Barlow family:

Thomas Barlow b 1811 m to Sarah Marshall
John Marshall Barlow b 1844 m to Mary Ann Seddon
Charles Ellis Barlow 1881 m Esther Leckie 1882. The family were large, located in Liverpool and I have traced them to Abenbury, Wales.

Would be grateful for any insight on why they moved to Liverpool. The Welsh family business was dissolved (forge - iron/bricks?), but I suspect that there may still be a Barlow connection up to modern day.

In addition, Marshall is used for the next generation as a middle name, skips a generation, then reappears. Would this indicate someone missing from the tree? How would I establish that?

Sarah Marshall - is she connected to the Forge in Abenbury?

Thanks again.
Would also be keen to hear of any connection to the Boer / Crimean  & WW1. It would be unlikely that the family would not have served in at least one of these conflicts and this info would confirm family stories.

Thanks for your help.   
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 16 August 12 09:28 BST (UK)
Hi

I think you will already have this information but it might be of use to others who will help you.

John M Barlow married Mary A Seddon in 1865 Toxteth Park, St Michael

Heather
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 16 August 12 09:31 BST (UK)
Charles E Barlow married Esther Leckie in 1906 Toxteth Park, St Paul.
Lancsbmd
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 16 August 12 09:37 BST (UK)
Different church

Marriage 7 May 1865 St Michael in the Hamlet, Aigburth, Lancashire
John Marshall Barlow 20 Furnaceman Bachelor of Haylock Street
Mary Ann Seddon 19 Spinster of Park Road
Groom's father Thomas Barlow Hammerman
Bride's father Joseph Seddon Labourer
Witness George Didsbury Sarah Woods
Married by banns William Clementson Incumbent

Lancsopc
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 16 August 12 09:41 BST (UK)
Baptism 21 September 1845 St Michael in the Hamlet  Aigburth
Mary Ann Seddon daughter of Joseph Seddon and Barbara
Abode Whitfield Street
Occupation Saddler
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 16 August 12 10:51 BST (UK)
Charles Ellis died/buried
16th August 1955
aged 74 years
abode 61 Cockburn Street Liverpool



John Marshall Buried
5th September 1922
aged 78 years
Mary Annhis wife
aged 71 years
16th June 1917
abode 52 Clevedon Street
William Joseph
aged 76 years
13th September 1951
abode 22 Moses Street
Possibly you could look up their probates

Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 16 August 12 10:53 BST (UK)
Esther Barlow isnt buried with her husband
Esther,
married woman
abode 61 Cockburn Street
aged 60
5th October 1943
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: UKSEARCH on Thursday 16 August 12 22:36 BST (UK)
Different church

Marriage 7 May 1865 St Michael in the Hamlet, Aigburth, Lancashire
John Marshall Barlow 20 Furnaceman Bachelor of Haylock Street
Mary Ann Seddon 19 Spinster of Park Road
Groom's father Thomas Barlow Hammerman
Bride's father Joseph Seddon Labourer
Witness George Didsbury Sarah Woods
Married by banns William Clementson Incumbent

Lancsopc
Thanks for taking the time to look into this. You mention 'different church'. Why would this be? I'm a novice with these things, all help gratefully received!
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: UKSEARCH on Thursday 16 August 12 22:57 BST (UK)
Esther Barlow isnt buried with her husband
Esther,
married woman
abode 61 Cockburn Street
aged 60
5th October 1943
Thanks for looking into this. Do you know where Esther and her husband are buried?
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: GJLODGE on Friday 17 August 12 03:44 BST (UK)
I have tried to contact the moderators about these posts, but I obviously lack the computers skills to do this. The name uksearch has been  used by myself since 1999 and to date. I object to someone using that name on this forum.

 This is only a cache of my 1500 links.

uksearch is and only has been Gerard Lodge
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Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: Radcliff on Friday 17 August 12 04:31 BST (UK)
I may be being thick as I have just got up but what are you actualy objecting to,
the question the answer or the poster,it is his/ her ggrandparents ,
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: andycand on Friday 17 August 12 05:30 BST (UK)
Hi

Are you objecting to someone using a username on Rootchat that you use on other sites? I'm sure most of us have found at times that when we register with a website or forum that our preferred username is already in use and we have to pick something different. I'm not sure anyone can claim sole web wide use of a username unless possibly if it is a registered trademark

Andy
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: UKSEARCH on Friday 17 August 12 08:16 BST (UK)
Poor you, you must be very frustrated. If you'd like me to pick another name, I can do that, you just need to ask. No advanced computer skills required - just some very basic social ones and hey, ho, problem solved.
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: garstonite on Friday 17 August 12 08:28 BST (UK)
Hiya...back to the research ..

these streets are 4 miles from my address and I know the area very well ...nicknamed "Holy land" because of the names of some of the streets ( Moses St as an example)

St Michaels in the Hamlet was a huge success when it was built ...mostly METAL ..see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael%27s_Church,_Aigburth

I have friends in Cockburn Street - and the names Barlow and Seddon are well known -especially Barlow ...loads of them .... 
as I say - I am local to this area ,so if I can help in any way - let me know...

Garston had a Copper works 1800`s and the locals didn`t know about  working with copper - so they brought a lot of Welsh people up to Liverpool who knew how to work copper...

allan
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: UKSEARCH on Friday 17 August 12 08:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for following up. My GGrandfather lived in Cockburn Street and we still have family Aigburth way. Very interesting to hear about the link with copper.
Will be in touch again.
Thank you. 
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: garstonite on Friday 17 August 12 10:28 BST (UK)
You`re welcome....there`s every chance I know your rellies ...I went to St Margarets school in Aigburth
allan
Title: Re: Barlow - Liverpool / Wales
Post by: ukdescendant on Monday 20 August 12 22:19 BST (UK)
Hi Uksearch

It was defintely Iron that we worked with in Wales, I did find some info about ironworks etc which
is at the palmer library in Wrexham.. just need to find the time to go there and see it  :)

Your Great Grandparents are both in Toxteth Park cemetery along with John M (just put the name
of the cemetery into your search engine and it will come up). My dad and I have trawled the
place to try and find headstones and didn't manage it but I am sure I saw a Charles Ellis Barlow.
I really hope you are lucky enough to find one.

Good to hear from Garstonite that there are still lots of Barlow's in Cockburn st. My side will die out with
my dad as he only had sisters and daughters.

Will send you some stuff this week.
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Ukdescendant