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Title: HENNESEY Family
Post by: christmack on Sunday 12 August 12 06:31 BST (UK)

Could someone please help me with any details on the following family :

George Newcombe HENNESEY (and various spellings) married :

1. Margaret DELANEY in 1874 in Limerick and

2. Edith LYNAS in 1889 in Co.Derry

George Newcombe HENNESEY died in England in 1904 and he was listed on the 1901 LONDON Census as a Journalist/Author.
His son John was also with him in 1901 as a Bookeeper.

George's 2nd wife Edith and family were in Armagh for the 1901 and 1911 census so the family must have gone to England between those years as their Daughter Doris was born in England C1904.

Children to Margaret were :
1. Anna born 1875 died 1875 in Limerick
2. John born 1876 in Limerick
3. Emily Margaret born 1878 in Limerick
4. Maria Blanche born C1881 and died 1881 in Limerick

Children to Edith were :
1. Elizabeth Annie born C1891 in Belfast
2. George William Douglas Newcombe born C1892 in Armagh City
3. Emily Mary born C1894 in Armagh City
4. Doris born C1904 in ENGLAND

Thank you,
Christmack

Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 12 August 12 07:56 BST (UK)
Hi,
   4 Dec 1889 George Newcombe HENNESSY married Edith Lynas in St. Columba Church of Ireland, Londonderry City.

Regards
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: christmack on Sunday 12 August 12 08:09 BST (UK)

Thank you Kingskerswell.
I have been having trouble finding Edith and family after the 1911 census.
Also what happened to John from the first marriage as I don't know whether he stayed in England after his Father died in 1904.

Christine
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 12 August 12 08:25 BST (UK)

A George William Hennesey married Evelyn Boyd in 1914 in Armagh.

The details fit nicely with the 1911 census, at the time of marriage he's a grocer from Drumadd, but his father's occupation is an engine driver.

OK, his father is long dead by this stage but is there a possibility that he was (pre journalist / author) an engine driver?
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: christmack on Sunday 12 August 12 08:35 BST (UK)

Gaffy,

Thank you so much. That confirms the bride for George.
Also in the 1911 census George was an apprentice grocer but he was still living with his Mother Edith in Armagh.

Thank you again,
Christine
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 August 12 10:37 BST (UK)
For reference-

1911 census- Edith with 4 children & her mother:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Armagh_Rural/Drumadd_Town/326841

1901 census- Edith (married) & 3 children with her mother:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Armagh_Rural/Drumadd__Village_/1009553

George Newcombe Hennesey died 12 Mar.1904 age 57 (born c1847). Residence 29 Baker St., Lloyds Square, Clerkenwell, Middlesex. Estate worth £59 15s 3d with Administration to John Hennesey, government clerk.

1901 census George and John are boarding at 6 Baker St. John, 24, single and George, 54, widower.

Added- Elizabeth Ann Hennesey, father George Newcombe Hennessey mother- Lynas, born 1890 Co.Antrim (Belfast is partly in Antrim & partly in Down).
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 August 12 11:04 BST (UK)
Limerick Chronicle, 23 Oct.1875: Death- HENNESEY- On the 19th inst., at Foynes, Anna Mary, the beloved child of George N. Hennesey, Clerk of Petty Sessions, aged eight months.

Based on his occupation father might hav been John?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,567296.0.html

Limerick Chronicle,9 Aug.1881: Death- HENNESEY- At 53 William Street, Limerick, on Saturday last, Maria Blanche, daughter of George N. Hennesey.
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: christmack on Sunday 12 August 12 11:58 BST (UK)

Thank you for all of that info. Aghadowey,

Cheers,
Christine
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: Inishanier on Friday 15 March 19 07:09 GMT (UK)
My wife is a descendant of the Armagh Hennesseys. Did you get anymore detail on George Newcombe Hennessy from Limerick. Mark
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: christmack on Saturday 23 March 19 05:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Mark,

Nothing further but I will let you know if I do,
Cheers, Christine
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 23 March 19 07:32 GMT (UK)
His father as suspected was John
Marriage to Margaret
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11241/8122104.pdf
Marriage to Edith
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10749/5919768.pdf

Death of possible father John
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06292/4803380.pdf
This John had a wife Margaret (top of second page)
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014900/005014900_00200.pdf
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: Inishanier on Saturday 23 March 19 08:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks Christine, visited the graveyard in Armagh last week. Now awaiting more details from the church records. Must get my mother-in-law to take a DNA test next. That would be entertaining. I have her head turned already.
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: christmack on Monday 25 March 19 23:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Mark,
Did you get a photo of the grave ? Christine
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: Inishanier on Tuesday 26 March 19 09:54 GMT (UK)
I did. They are on my tree on Ancestry. How do I share it here.
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: Inishanier on Wednesday 27 March 19 17:03 GMT (UK)
Try this.
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: Inishanier on Wednesday 27 March 19 17:05 GMT (UK)
And
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: christmack on Thursday 28 March 19 02:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Mark,
Thank you for the great photos of the graves. What is the name of the cemetery where these are ?

I am a little confused on the christian names though. Is Elizabeth Edith HENNESSEY nee LYNAS who died 1952, actually Edith LYNAS who was married to George Newcombe HENNESEY? George's parents were John HENNESEY, the Clerk of the Court of Petty Sessions in Limerick, and Margaret GINNANE.
Cheers,  Christine
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: Inishanier on Thursday 28 March 19 08:54 GMT (UK)
St Marks Church of Ireland, Armagh. That is definitely the mother of George William Douglas Newcombe Hennessey. Her father is Robert and that is confirmed on the marriage certificate. All the children's birth certificates show George Newcombe Hennessey living in London as a Journalist. I assume he is also buried there.  He seemed to have been living with his son John from his first marriage to Margaret Delaney in Limerick.
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: christmack on Friday 29 March 19 20:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Mark,

I have sent you a personal message that includes my e.mail address
Cheers,  Christine
Title: Re: HENNESEY Family
Post by: christmack on Friday 29 March 19 20:28 GMT (UK)
Mark,  Your personal message box appears to be full so I'll send you(below) the message I was including minus my e.mail address.
Would you be able to let me know your e.mail address through a personal message to me then we can correspond directly through e.mail ?

Hi Mark,
Thanks for confirming the information you sent. Our rellies love to confuse us sometimes, don't they ? They are probably watching down on us and having a good chuckle.
I have also tried to find where George snr. was buried but no luck so far but will keep on looking. Where did you get the birth certificates for George and Edith's children from ?

I've been trying to confirm the actual occupation of George's father John Hennesey as the Clerk of Petty sessions was only a part time job. I did find on George snr's marriage certificate to his first wife Margaret that John's occupation was a Barrack Master (or that is what the writing looks like), but I'm not sure what that was. I am thinking that John may have originally been in the Police force and later semi-retired to caretaking the Barracks also being the Clerk of the Court. Does that make sense to you ?

Christine