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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Carlow => Topic started by: elaine curran on Saturday 11 August 12 20:34 BST (UK)
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Am looking for any info.on my husbands' maternal side.
His mother was Margaret Mary Aughney,b.c1902.,d.1948.,buried Newtown Graveyard.,Co.Carlow.(m.John Curran)...siblings:-Mary,b.c1884...Alicia,b.c1886...John,b.c1890...Annie,b.1893...Cathrine,b.c1898...Lizzie,b.c1908 and Brigit,b.c1911.
Father of Margaret Mary was Michael Aughney,b.c1859(m.Catherine Byrne(?)b.c1858)
In 1901 Irish Census,Michael and Catherine lived at house no.2.Newtown(Agha,Carlow)with 5 of their children and also his parents..John Aughney,b.c1818.BLIND.and Alicia Aughney,b.c1823.
Does anyone recognize these names please?
I have hit a brick wall ,as I cant find a marriage for John and Alicia,so cant find their fathers' names,or their mothers' maiden names.
would appreciate any help...thankyou...Elaine
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Do you know Alicia's maiden name ?
Given the dates of birth for the children it looks like John and Alice married before the start of registration of RC marriages, so a search of parish records would be required - unfortunately these often dont include details of fathers for this timeframe. If James and Alica had any children born after 1864 maybe a cert for one of these would be the way to progress the search...
1901 census for reference : Aughney household, Newtown townland (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Carlow/Agha/Newtown/1038516/)
1911 census : Aughney household, Newtown townland (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Carlow/Agha/Bewtown/308822/)
Shane
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thankyou for replying Shane....how would I go about finding any siblings of Michael(b.c 1859),to see if any were born AFTER 1864?
Elaine
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I though you might have looked into other Aughney families in the area to see if they may be related.
There doesn't doesn't seem to be any likely children for John and Alice in extracted Civil records, but these dont cover all births. Aughney is not a common name, so not many registrations for it. Just a couple of good matches between 1864 and 1870. One for a Patrick Aughney - but it's included in extracted records and mother's name is Anne, no father is shown. There's also a James Aughney born 1865, but over near Tullow with parents John and Mary Anne.
No sign of any Aughney households in Newtown townland on Griffith's, which is dated 1852 for this area. Maybe the family moved to the area ?
Have you found a marriage for Michael and Catherine ?
I had a quick look for one but didn't see any good matches ..
Newtown townland is in Agha civil parish and was covered by two separate RC parishes - Bagnalstown (Dunleckney civil parish) and also Leighlin (civil parish of Old Leighlin). I think you will need to investigate records for these for any details of your Aughney family, and cross your fingers that the family didn't move to the area from somewhere else...
Records for Bagnalstown parish go back to 1820, for Leighlinbridge back to 1783 (with some dates missing). Both are available in the NLI, and seem to be also available in to order in LDS Family History centres.
Shane
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i found this in griffiths valuation...ARDISTAN:-Aughney,James(Roscat)...also,two Josephs and a Stephen,all Roscat.
DUNLECKNEY(I did think Newtown came under dunleckney)John Aughney(Curraghacruit)and Michael Aughney(Kildreenagh)
we were in Kildreenagh a few weeks ago...my husbands' first cousin,Joe(Joseph Patrick)Curran lives there...i could be wrong,but i think he lives in the home place.
FENNAGH:-Joseph Aughney(Castlemore)
found(i cant think where!)..whether it a marriage or a grave inscription,i dont know.....Bridget Aughney,b.c1776..d.1845,and James Aughney,b.c1767..d.1846..parents of John Aughney of Kildreenagh.
wondered if this was "our" John,but was a bit uncertain as he was b.c1818,and by then,Bridget would have been 42 yrs of age and James would have been 51..would this be too old?
DUNLECKNEY Baptisms...1841,John Aughney.,1841,Mary Aughney.,(twins?)both with father John Aughney.,mother ? Corcoran(Newtown)
also found a John Aughney.,b.Carlow,c1817,d.1907...no details given on parents etc.
in BAGENALSTOWN baptisms,there's an Ann Aughney,b.june 1846...father John Aughney..mother Alicia Ryan.
could these be our "blind" John and his wife,Alicia,parents to Michael Aughney?
Elaine
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just googled it....school IS newtown/dunleckney.
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in BAGENALSTOWN baptisms,there's an Ann Aughney,b.june 1846...father John Aughney..mother Alicia Ryan.
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that last reference sounds promising - definitely worth following up. Did you find any other Aughney baptisms in those records ?
S.
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just for reference there are three separate townlands named Newtown in Co. Carlow - the one shown on the census links above in Agha civil parish, and two others in St. Mullin's and Ardoyne civil parishes.
S.
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i've only been to one Newtown..the one where my late in-laws are buried.
there are a few more Bagenalstown baptisms,but none to John and Alicia...the others were ANNE AUGHNEY,bapt.july 1823(5 yrs approx ,later than our "blind" John...father Michael Aughney.,mother Bridget Kinsella(Kildrena)
CATH AUGHNEY,bapt jan 1842.,WILLIAM AUGHNEY,bapt dec 1844.,MARY AUGHNEY,bapt may 1847....all three had same parents..father James Aughney.,mother Mary Brien(Kildrena)
? GAUL,bapt 1848...mother Bridget Aughney..father Philip Gaul(Kildrena)
Elaine
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1881 Slater's Directory for Carlow has a John Aughney listed as a farmer in Bagnelstown
There is also a John Aughney listed as a miller in Kilcarrick Bagnalstown
Tara
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more likely the first one....i have a copy of Alicias' death cert..she died in 1907,in Newtown.,aged 80.,wife of a farmer.,died from general debility,3weeks,no medical attendant.,informant was her dau-in-law,Catherine Aughney,present at death.
registrars district:-Bagenalstown.,Co.Carlow.
but i still need to find out if there were more children than michael,...the Ann i found the baptism of in Bagenalstown to John Aughney and Alicia Ryan now seems more likely.
funnily enough,i have had the certs for a couple of months....read the details,but NEVER read the district!
will do in future...will read EVERYTHING on certs!
Elaine
btw..whats Slaters Directory?
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The Slaters Directory is like a list of people in different areas and their occupations - usually trades.
I think with the rarity of the surname you can nearly guarantee that Anne is a sister to Michael.
I think there are only 47 people with this surname in all of Ireland on the 1901 census and pretty much all of those in Carlow.
Tara
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Tara..i thought it would be easy,as it was an unusual name..how wrong was i? lol
my husbands' paternal side is Curran,and theres absolutely LOADS of them!
Shane...i don't have a marriage for Michael and Catherine,but do have a copy of the birth cert.of their dau.Catherine(Katie,who went to America)...father.,Michael Aughney.,mother.,Catherine Aughney,formerly Byrne.
Elaine
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Hi Elaine,
There appears to have been an Anne Aughney having a few children 'out of wedlock'
I'm wondering MIGHT this be 'your' Anne ???
baptism patrick aughney (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPB7-M6P)
baptism anne aughney (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5WF-2G7)
baptism catherine aughney (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FP9W-3P2)
Also, I'm wondering MIGHT your family's surname have originally been HAUGHNEY ?
Looking at records, this is still a rarish surname but a lot more that Aughney !
Tara
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Headstone in Bagenalstown cemetery;
Kathleen Ita Aughney; Kilcarrig Mills Bagenalstown
20/2/1963
hus-John Gerard;
21/12/1964
dtr-Therese (Trixie);
29/6/1990
dtr; Anastacia (Stella);
9/4/2008
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Jack
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Lol...still chuckling at the "out of wedlock"...very diplomatic!
I'm also doing mat. and pat. on my mum and dads side...traced grandad Stockton back about 4or5generations,then after double checking,found gt grandad had died 2 yrs before my grandad was born!
Unmarried mothers been round a good while!
Have a listing on roots chat for grandads family(this in Ireland,so I come to a full stop!)..they Rices and Mahons.
Where were the baptisms of Patrick,Anne and Catherine?
I suppose it's possible re haughney...we have a Denis also down as Dennis and Mahon down as Mahan. I suppose the records were difficult to read.
I appreciate all the help...I realise getting copies of certs etc just to eliminate people is easier,but on pension I can only afford to buy copies of the RIGHT people.
Was the Ann having the illegitimate children,the Ann b.1823,a poss sister of blind John,or the one b.1846,a poss sister of Michael,and dau of blind John?
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Thnx jack...have never been to bagenalstown graveyard..must go next time we visit relatives in Kildare and Carlow .quite a few relatives are buried newtown(including my husbands parents)...his first cousin lives ballywilliamroe,not far from bagenalstown..he's just turned 90 and he and his wife were able to give me quite a lot of info..leo(my husband)s' mother died when he was 2 and his dad when he was 6..TB was common in 40/50s.
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Hi Elaine
If you click on the names written in blue - they are actually links to the baptisms.
They were all in Bagenalstown !!
Ages are adding up to the Anne (mother of the 3 children) to have been the daughter of blind John - sorry to refer to him as such, am just using your words.
Yes, genealogy can be a sensitive subject at the best of times, so I do try to be as diplomatic as poss LOL !
Tara
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The penny did drop,and I clicked on the blue names and found them!thankyou.
So that looks like she was a sibling of Michael.(no offence taken at the "blind"ref.)..we have so many common names on both sides,the currans and the aughneys....VERY common are John,Catherine,Michael and frances(fanny)..there are lots of them.
Will look on family search to see any more births for John and alicia(although I found illig children,same year of baptism,1841)father John aughney.,mother ? Corcoran..Newtown.
Leo's mother also had twins(d.a few days old,after she had a heavy fall),so twins are in the family...could this be "blind"John?
Incidentally,eye problems seem to be prevalent in the family..I have been told of at least 3people,inc my husband,with eye problems,or even blind.
Re the illigitimacies..I have just(with the help of GR,put leos cousin in touch with his niece(his sister had two illig children,before marrying and having a son)I was contacted by a member who recognised his gt gt g/father on my family tree and it was the right one!
Elaine
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Hi Elaine,
It's not a defo that it's the same Anne, but a good possibility I suppose.
Just to recap...where did you find the baptism of Anne to John and Alicia (nee Ryan) ?
I'm not great with the townlands of Carlow, and I know that Shane mentioned some other Newtown's but I have found this mention of HAUGHNEY'S in Newtown (click on blue writing and then scroll down the page that will come up) - some of the names mentioned may add up to you !
haughney's of newtown (http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2533.8.1.1.1/mb.ashx)
Tara
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it was in Bagenalstown Baptisms(don't know what the actual site was..thats what i ggogled)
That was also where i found Anne Aughney,bapt.13th July 1823(possible sibling of "blind"John)...her father down as Michael Aughney .,mother,Bridget Kinsella(Kildrina)...Kildreenagh is nr bagenalstown.
If this Anne IS Johns' sister,then they would be his parents too,taking me back another generation.
Also there,there was a cath.(2nd Jan.1842)william(8th Dec.1844)Mary(9th May 1847)..father.,James Aughney.,mother Mary Brien......going off the years of baptism,James would prob have been born c 1820 or thereabouts....sibling of "blind" John and Anne?
Supposition until i can connect em all!
All i do know,is that both the Currans and the Aughneys had BIG families...at least 5 kids,but usually more than that,so there may be more siblings for "blind"John,and for Michael
Elaine
ps...i am just LOVING all this..it is SO thrilling when something matches!
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Hi Elaine,
Yes genealogy is super addictive BUT
Word of Warning - take it slowly when doing your tree.
It can be easy with a rare surname like Aughney to presume that everyone is related, and maybe they are, but without documentation to back it up, your tree will really just be all guesswork.
I fully understand how expensive it can be, but a 4 euro cert to confirm things is a much better investment than an incorrect tree.
Tara
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€4?....i paid around £12/13 for copy of MY family certs(UK)!
Where would i get copies for €4 please?
That is much more affordable.
Elaine
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Where would i get copies for €4 please?
That is much more affordable.
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see :
Ordering Civil Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,599538.0.html)
Details included on a Birth Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433041.0.html)
Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)
Details included on a Death Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433043.0.html)
S.
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I have just posted a query,asking where the GRO is in Roscommon Town,...I thought it would appear here,but it hasnt!....don't know where its gone!
Elaine
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orders should be posted to Roscommon - the address is on the GRO website
S.
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your 'missing' post is on the topic dealing with cert orders.
see : Re: Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,599538.msg4599035.html#msg4599035) (reply #115)
S.
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lol....thnx!
so i cant call in and pick certs up there and then and pay on the spot?
Elaine
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Hi Elaine,
Where do you live ?
In Dublin you can go to the centre in Abbey Street and get them there and then.
Each county (as far as I am aware) has their own registration office where you can get certs BUT they use different reference numbers, so unless you can provide them with exact details it can prove tricky.
In Dublin you can get 5 certs there and then. If you want more they post them out to you, at no extra charge.
Tara
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I'm in Armagh,but train goes to Connolly(?)st station from Newry....we can travel down free with our senior travel passes.
is abbey st anywhere nr station?
Elaine
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Abbey street is quite long and consists of Upper, Middle and Lower Abbeys St. The Irish Life centre is at the eastern end of Lwr Abbey St. and maybe about 300 yards from Connolly Station
S.
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thats not too bad..we both have walking difficulties,but 300yds be ok...thnx
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according to google maps it's 400 metres ... see :
Connolly Station to Irish Life centre (http://goo.gl/maps/G9ezj)
sometimes you can end up with quite a walk from the platform to the station exit - although I think the Belfast & Newry trains usually end up in the main building.
S.
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Hi Elaine,
Do you want to let us know the certs that you are looking to get - just to make sure that you have the correct info ?
There are little white forms when you go into the office that you fill in with the reference numbers and name etc, you hand these into the person at the desk and they come back to you with copies of the certs.
NB ! Please note that what you get for the 4 euro is a photocopy of the cert NOT the actual cert.
If you don't have these reference numbers and dates then you have to do searches in their books (which costs in both time and money).
So, if you want to let us know what ones you are planning on getting we can make sure that you have all the correct details.
Tara
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Rathoe Graveyard headstones;
Patrick Aughney; Roscat Tullow; 30/4/1928 (aged-70)
wife-Mary Anne; 23/2/1939 (72)
son-John; 29/2/1975 (85)
his wife-Mary; 25/4/1989 (82)
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erected by Michael Kelly; Castlemore in memory of
dtr-Honoria Kelly; 81/0/1857 (25)
Stephen Aughney; Roscat; 15/6/1885 (26)
Kathleen Aughney; 24/11/1935
James Aughney; 27/2/1943 (76)
Alicia Aughney; 17/9/1955 (75)
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Catherine Miller; Roscat Tullow; 10/3/1959
also Eilis Aughney; 21/5/1982
Dr. Hanoria Aughney; 7/3/1991 (90)
Josie O Brien (alias Aughney); Bray; 9/6/1998 (92)
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Jack
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wonder when women started studying medicine at trinity college.dublin?
Reason i ask is because when we were in kildare last month,my husbands niece told us there was an Honoria Aughney,who was one of the first women to do so....wonder could it be the same Dr.Hanoria Aughney.,Rathoe Graveyard(see seanmacs' posting)who died 1991,aged 90?
still ploughing through Aughneys on FamilySearch,Tara...will then sort out which certs i'll need.
which ones would you suggest?...blind John.,Michael...??....i am unsure,and cant afford to spend a fortune if i dont have to....would rather just get the ones that are relevant.
Elaine
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Thom's 1930 lists a medical practitioner that might match that...
Miss H. Aughney, M.B., B.CH., D.P.H., N.U.I
her practice is located in Tullow.
this could be her on the 1911 census
Aughney household, Roscat townland, Co.Carlow (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Carlow/Tullowbeg/Roscat/313234/)
Shane
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i found Honoria Aughney in the 1831 trade directory...Abbey St.,...Physicians & Surgeons(Tullow)
as Patrick was 50 in 1911,he would have been born c1861....Michael was born in 1859..could they be brothers?
i would be as well getting both their birth certs to see if parents were John and Alicia,wouldnt i?
Elaine
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I've seen that webpage before, it's on www.From-Ireland.net. There's a typo in the heading - it should read 1931
S.
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Hi Elaine,
My rule of thumb is that I HAVE to have all the certs for my direct blood line, eg births, marriages and deaths.
I have learnt to accept that if I can't get paperwork to prove a direct blood line back then I have to leave it at that.
You'd be amazed at the amount of people who don't have certs for their blood lines and just work off family stories. This is a silly game to play, as you see time and time again when family stories prove to be incorrect.
After that then I usually get the marriage certs for siblings.
So re the Aughney's I would get at least the birth cert for Mary Anne (who I think you said is the first from this family related to you)
Then her parents (Michael & Catherine's) marriage certs and death certs, and baptismal certs if possible.
Then as Blind John and Alicia were born and married so far before civil registration you won't be able to get births or marriages, well their death certs.
Tara
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I have Michael & Catherines firstborn as Mary...is she called Mary Ann?...its down as just Mary in 1901 census.
I know her parents were Michael and Catherine Aughney(nee Byrne)because its on Catherine(Katie)s' birth cert in 1897.
I have copies of blind John and Alicias death certs.
On family search,I found film nos.,volume nos.,page nos.,digital folder nos and image nos for a John Aughney,b.c1817.,d.Carlow 1907................Patrick Aughney,b.c1814.,d.Carlow 1880.................Mary Aughney,b.c1821.,d.Carlow 1908.....will get copies of certs to see if they siblings.
found Alicia Aughney,b.c1820.,d.1901......getting copy of this cert to see if this is Johns' wife,mother of Michael.
also found Michael Aughney.,b.c1859,d.1941,Carlow............Patrick Aughney,b.c1858.,d.Carlow 1928............Catherine Aughney.,b.c1858.,d.Carlow 1951......getting copies of these certs to see if they siblings.
Cant find a marriage for John and Alicia or for Michael and Catherine.
Elaine
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Rathoe headstone;
Jack
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On family search,I found film nos.,volume nos.,page nos.,digital folder nos and image nos for a John Aughney,b.c1817.,d.Carlow 1907................Patrick Aughney,b.c1814.,d.Carlow 1880.................Mary Aughney,b.c1821.,d.Carlow 1908.....will get copies of certs to see if they siblings.
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word of warning about death certs - they dont give very much detail, so you may not be able to establish if these people are related or siblings, especially as they are adults and probably not living at their ancestral home.
Marriage or births certs (if possible) are better for establishing connections... see details on certs in reply #23 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,610390.msg4598986.html#msg4598986)
note the film, digital folder and image numbers are FamilySearch internal references and not relevant to the GRO.
Shane
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Hi Elaine,
Sorry I was typing that lest message from memory and I thought it was Mary Anne (my mistake)
This is the marriage details for Michael & Catherine
Michael Aughney
Date Jan-Feb-Mar 1883
District: Carlow
Volume: 3
Page: 339
You won't get John and Alicia as they married WELL before civil registration
Tara
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no probs Tara...think i saw a mary ann somewhere along the line,but dont think she was one of ours!
Will get copy of Catherine and Michaels marriage cert...be nice to have,even tho it doesnt get me any further back!
will have to "go back"to Carlow Baptisms!
so do i only need page and volume for GRO certs?
thankyou all for being good enough to help me,your help is much appreciated.
Elaine
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Hi Elaine,
If getting the marriage cert of Michael and Catherine you need all the details that I posted.
You could be lucky in that the witness' could be an Aughney or a Byrne which would give you a lead.
Shane is correct re the death certs. I only get the ones for my direct blood line.
Getting the ones that you listed would be a very expensive gamble as they can't guarantee relationships between people.
One suggestion would be to send a polite email to the local church, giving them as much information as possible and asking them clearly what names you are looking for and see can the priest or his secretary help.
Tara
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will contact Leos' cousins' wife and ask what the RC Church in Bagenalstown is..some of her family live there.
I did wonder about doing that,but didnt know if they would look for me....someone descended from my gt gt grandads' second wife,told me the family was from Tuam,Galway.....my dau lives 5 mls from there,and when she mentioned to the clerk that her late f-in-law used to do the presbytery gardens,she let us look thro baptisms and marriages and deaths....no sign of em at all....we spent over 2 hrs copying all similar names out!
thats why i wondered about contacting the PP in bagenalstown...I thought he might think I was very cheeky for asking! :-)
Elaine
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Was in the Irish Life centre in Dublin Thurs this week....got the wedding cert for Michael Aughney and catherine Byrne....Michaels' father down as John Aughney.,Boherduff.Witnesses Edward Larkin and Bridgid Larkin.
Found an Elizabeth Aughney on Ancestry..she d. 22nd Dec.1866,aged 11 yrs,making her born in 1855,just 4 yrs before Michael Aughney,so I got a copy of her death cert today,figuring that as she was a child,one of the parents would have been the informant....it said John Aughney,Kilcarrig(which is part of Bagenalstown)..present at death.So it looks highly likely that Elizabeth was the sister of Michael.
I was given some pics of gravestones...one of them saying...."Erected by John Aughney of Kildrenagh in memory of his mother Bridget Aughney who dep'd this life June 13th 1845,aged 69 yrs.Also his father James Aughney,who dep'd this life Jan 24 th 1846,aged 79 yrs.Also his nephew James Aughney who died young"
As Bridget would have been b.c1776 and James b.c1767,Bridget would have been 42 and James 51,when John Aughney was born in c1818,could they be parents to John?
Kildrenagh fits...my husbands' first cousin lives in Ballywilliamroe,which is the next townland to Kildrenagh.
Any advice on how to prove this please?
Elaine
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sorry,should have done a preview!
re my last posting,I meant to say,could Bridget and James Aughney be the parents of my husbands' gt grandad,"blind" John Aughney?
Elaine
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Dr. Honoria Aughney was a friend of Kevin Barry's in UCD in 1919/1920 - See 'No More Lonely Scaffolds: Kevin Barry and his times" by Donal O'Donovan pages 51, 57, 127-8, 164, 184
http://www.turtlebunbury.com/history/history_heroes/hist_hero_kevinbarry.html
Honoria later became Medical Officer for Wexford, she is also referenced in this thesis - Irish Medical Women c.1880s-1920s: The origins, education and careers of early women medical graduates from Irish institutions.
http://aran.library.nuigalway.ie/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10379/1792/finalthesis.pdf
Eilis Aughney used to hide guns for Robert Bonfield after 'jobs' during the Civil War - see her Witness Statement 1054 - http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS1054.pdf
I am researching Robert Bonfield, who was a distant relative, and would like to find out more about his friendship with the Aughney sisters and their circle of friends in UCD at the time.
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This page of Genealogy also seems to have a lot of information on the Aughney family
Cummins Families of County Carlow, Ireland
Decendents of George & Margaret Cummins of Castlemore
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cummins/GeorgeCastlemore.htm
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I write regularly to Sue who wrote this article....there were only 6 families of Aughney in the whole of the 32 counties in 1852(Irish times)..all were in Carlow.
As well as myself and Sue,there is a lady in Cork,and a man in England,all looking Aughneys,and we're all looking different ones!
I am looking Newtown,.dunleckney.,..Carlow Aughneys.
I think John Aughney,b.c1818 may have been baptised either in Newtown Church or Bagenalstown,but I can't find it online.
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See on another site that you are still looking for John Aughneys (born circa 1818)parents.Looked at dunleckney (bagenalstown )parish records which are available free online.There is a John Aughney of Kildrenagh baptised on 8th April 1821 son of Michael Aughney and Biddy Purcell with sponsors Mich Hennessey and Biddy Aughney.Any help?
Here is the link.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Baptism_Dunleckney_2.htm
Denis
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I sent an email to the clerk(?)at Bagenalstown RC Church....I had rung her a couple of months ago when we were in Carlow/Kildare. She said it wasn't possible for me to look through the records,but that if I emailed her with the name,she would look as soon as she had time. I asked her for the baptism of John Aughney,b.c1818...... The online records only start 1820, so my only chance of getting any further back,is from the actual records kept by the Church. I haven't heard anything back yet...hope she got my email!
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Hi Elaine, I may have some useful information regarding the aughneys around bagenalstown/newtown area if you're still interested? my name may be a dead giveaway lol! My family are and I have always been residents of bagenalstown/newtown. My grandfather was gerry aughney, a farmer and miller. But my dad is a mindful of local and historical information I could ask him to help fill in the gaps in your search if you wish? Also, re the Curran side? If I recall, I've heard him speaking in the past about our association to the Curran's but don't quote me on that until I get the full info. Hope to hear from you, as I'm on this for similar reasons to yourself.
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Hi,Niamh......yes,the name was a big clue! Lol. Here's we're I'm at...will have to see what i can remember,we're down at our daughters in Galway,for the new year,and i dont have my notes with me! Leo and his siblings(Curran)were b Carlow and Kildare. Mick.,Charlie.,Elizabeth Margaret(Rita).,John Joe,and Mary Catherine(Kathleen)were all b above what is now,Smyths pub in Newtown......Frank.,Patrick Dermot,Dan and Ann,twins who died a few hrs old,and James LEO,my hubby were all b Kilkea.Castledermot.Kildare. Leo's mum was Margaret Mary Aughney,who married John Curran. They both died from TB when Leo was small,and he was reared by his sis and her husband in Galway. Margaret Mary's dad was Michael Aughney(this is we're I have to rem who was m to who,cos BOTH his grandads were Michael)...think Michael Aughney was m to Catherine Byrne......in 1901 Irish census,they were living in Newtown. Also living with them and their children,was Michaels parents.,John Aughney,b.c1818,and Alicia Aughney.,b.c1823. Have found that John Aughney m Alicia Raftry. Can't go any further back than that,cos records,I think ,began 1820 and John was b a couple of yrs before that,so will have to rely on parish records! I am in touch with a man in England who is related to Aughneys of the mill. If you want to email me,my address is....leoandelaine9@gmail.com. Hope to hear from you soon.....Elaine.
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Hi, have just found my postings on here! Havent been on in a while( to be honest,i'd forgotten i had even posted here! Lol)
In your last message to me,you said you had some info for me re the Aughneys.
I forwarded you my email address,but can't for the life of me,remember if i got an email from you.....I don't think I did,come to think of it.
Had a lot of probs with my comp last year.,was hacked into,and had to have everything taken off and comp. put back to how it was when it left the factory!
Bit of a bummer!
I WOULD be very interested in ANY info you may have re Aughneys.,thankyou.
Elaine