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Title: Patrick DEER
Post by: kala on Thursday 09 August 12 12:22 BST (UK)
I'm looking for the baptism of Patrick DEER 1820-1823 Co. Tipperary.

Can anyone possibly assist with a lookup of the record?

Thankyou
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 09 August 12 12:25 BST (UK)
You usually need a bit more detail to start a search for an early parish record - i.e. the denomination of this Deer family and where in Co. Tipperary (the town, townland or parish) they lived. Not all parishes have records back to the 1820s so the more detail you have the better...

Do you have the name of Patrick's father ?
You didn't mention where Patrick ended up... marriage and certs from many countries include very useful clues such as names of parents etc, which could help confirm or rule out any Tipperary records you locate.

see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
         My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html)



Shane
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: kala on Thursday 09 August 12 13:04 BST (UK)
There are two baptisms listed on IFHF which I cannot access 1820 & 1823 that I would like to investigate.

He was RC according to all his records until his death in Australia & none of them record his parents names.

He was married before 8 August 1841 to Margaret (Peggy) RYAN as that's the date they left Ireland.

All their children were born in Australia.

Thankyou






Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 09 August 12 13:22 BST (UK)
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There are two baptisms listed on IFHF which I cannot access 1820 & 1823 that I would like to investigate.
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RootsIreland/IFHF is a subscription site - you have to pay to see the details.

Bear in mind though that not all Co. Tipperary parishes are included on RootsIreland, and not all parishes have records back to 1820, so there's no guarantee your Patrick is included in the records available.




Shane
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 09 August 12 13:28 BST (UK)
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He was married before 8 August 1841 to Margaret (Peggy) RYAN as that's the date they left Ireland.
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maybe a search for that marriage would be a good place to start... if it can be located, it could narrow down which parish they lived in.


Shane
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: kala on Thursday 09 August 12 13:34 BST (UK)
I have tried that previously:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,469291.0.html
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 09 August 12 13:39 BST (UK)
The fact that there's no sign of the marriage suggests that the your Deer/Ryan families could have lived in a parish where the records either dont go back far enough, or one that's not included on RootsIreland.

The problem is the early date and not having their location to narrow the search...


S.
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: kala on Thursday 09 August 12 14:06 BST (UK)

RootsIreland/IFHF is a subscription site - you have to pay to see the details.

Shane

Yes, I know it's a subscription site but not everyone owns a credit card.

I guess for the moment they will continue to remain a mystery.

Thankyou
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: Bellajay on Wednesday 29 August 12 14:02 BST (UK)
Hi I would like to exchange information. I am g/grand daughter of Mary Margaret Dear married John Joseph Dunne. I have read another of your posts and made the link. Thanks
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: kala on Thursday 30 August 12 08:43 BST (UK)
Hello Bellajay,

You will need to reply two more times before you can use the PM system here to contact me offline.

http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

I know Mary Margaret only had two children before she died & the daughter didn't marry until her 40's.
So, I assume you are a grandchild of her son Thomas & his wife Florence who are now both deceased.




Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: Bellajay on Thursday 30 August 12 09:50 BST (UK)
Hi there, you do know a lot yes, they were my grandparents. Can I ask where you are? Geelong
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: kala on Thursday 30 August 12 10:21 BST (UK)
Hi,

We are currently travelling around & a couple of thousand kilometers away at the moment.
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: Bellajay on Thursday 30 August 12 10:31 BST (UK)
Wow thank you for the quick response. I look forward to chatting via messages then. Ta
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: kala on Thursday 30 August 12 10:53 BST (UK)
You can now use the PM system to contact me 8)
Title: Re: Patrick DEER
Post by: Bellajay on Thursday 30 August 12 11:30 BST (UK)
 :) cool I can't wait to find out more