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Title: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: jacques on Saturday 04 August 12 13:07 BST (UK)
William Collins b 1874 Essex.  On his Marriage cert 1900 in Guildford Surrey it states his occupation as Army Pensioner.

Anyone out there know if i can find his Army Record details.

Many thanks for reading this.

Jacques
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: suffolk*sue on Saturday 04 August 12 13:25 BST (UK)
Who did he marry, do you have him on any census?
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 04 August 12 13:27 BST (UK)
Was his father Thomas
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: t mo on Saturday 04 August 12 14:18 BST (UK)
the nearest pension record for a william collins born essex is this one born colchester essex 1872 his next of kin is his father also named william .
regards
trevor
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 04 August 12 15:34 BST (UK)
Did he marry Alice Blighton?
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: jacques on Saturday 04 August 12 16:08 BST (UK)
Thank you Suffolk sue Isobelruss and t mo

Yes he did marry Alice Blighton.

Unsure whether Father was Charles William and Mother Elizabeth Partner . You mention a father Thomas havent come across him.
Any information would be great to narrow it down.

Many thanks

jacques
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: jacques on Saturday 04 August 12 16:16 BST (UK)
t mo

Where did you find the information re army pension was he invalided out?

Thanks
Jac :-*ques
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 04 August 12 16:42 BST (UK)
How do you know he was born Essex,and doesnt his fathers name and occupation appear on the marriage cert? There are army pension records of familysearch and on Findmypast
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 04 August 12 16:53 BST (UK)
The one born Colchester was a shoemaker by trade born St Botolph,Colchester joined Essex regiment at Warley 12 Mar 1890 -10 2 1893
father William Collins of Vineyard Colchester

the one with father Thomas who I asked about was married in 1896 so isnt your man.
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: jacques on Saturday 04 August 12 17:08 BST (UK)
Thank you for all that

Oops!!! Yes father Charles William occupation labourer on Marriage certificate.

the Essex Regiment looks promising.

Many Thanks

jacques
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: t mo on Saturday 04 August 12 17:14 BST (UK)
pension record for william collins  born col parish st botolphs
essex regt  soldier no 2856
att date 12 mar 1890
age at att 18 yrs 1 mos
service time essex regt depot att 10 mar 1890
essex 1st bat transferred 1 july 1890
granted good conduct pay  1d 10 mar 1892
discharged  on payment £18 under article 609 , pay warrant 1892 authority dated cso office , cork 4 feb 1893
home 10 mar 1890 - 10 feb 1893
height 5 foot 3 and a qtr  weight 123 lbs occ shoemaker
surgeons cert , taken from aux artillery eastern dist form ,regulations for recruiting for regular army , station gt yarmouth 5 march 1890

basically that,s all there is he,s joined up then bought himself out for £18
his father william lived in vineyard street which is in st botolphs parish and just up the rd from the church .
as an aside when i was a boy i,ve walked that st many a time going home from the town all the houses were knocked down way back in the 60,s it,s all car park now .
regards
trevor
ps the record is part of online army  pension records if you would like a copy you can buy credits so you can download it . but as you see there,s not a lot on it .
under height , otherwise of very good good physique
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: heywood on Saturday 04 August 12 17:49 BST (UK)
Hello,

this is confusing.
William (11 years in 1881)  who lived in Vineyard Street has a father William who is a Painter in 1881 and later.

There is a William (6 yrs in 1881)  born White Notley with a father Charles William, Flour Carter. Charles W is a labourer in 1891 and young William is a Groom. :-\
regards
heywood
Title: Re: William Collins bc1874 Essex
Post by: jacques on Saturday 04 August 12 22:08 BST (UK)
Thanks to you both

Will have to do some more checking, Had thought William 6 years in 1881 with Father Charles William  was my man.

Then t mo 's military info fits with the William 11 years in 1881 with Father William

His Marriage 1900 states Army Pensioner as occupation
In which case perhaps there is another William in records b c 1875

Will sleep on it for now.

Thanks everyone.

Jacques