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Title: Am new and looking ..
Post by: welshladyjay on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:08 BST (UK)
My Grandfather  Frank Lampard was born on 20th November 1899 in the (parish)Saint Philip and Jacob..i have got a small brown piece of paper   certificate of Registry of Birth..entry 147  register book 188... how do i find out more about this please..His father was Called John Rose Lampard, and not sure if his Grandfather was called the same...
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: silvery on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:21 BST (UK)
from freebmd   http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

births

Dec quarter 1899, registration district Bristol, vol 6a page 146
Frank Lampard

This is the record in the indexes of his birth. 

Look in the census records is the next step.   
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: silvery on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:27 BST (UK)
1901 census

John R Lampard 36 b 1865 coach painter b Mere, Wiltshire
Alice, 35 1866 b Yeovil
William 12 1899 b Bath
John 11 1890 b Bath
Florence 9 1892 b Bath
Harry 6 1896 b Bristol
Frank 2 1899 b Bristol

address:  7 Albert Street, Bristol

Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: anniedwyer84 on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:28 BST (UK)
Hello... :)

I found the family on the 1901 Census of England:

Copyright information removed

If you contact GRO England..you will be able to order his birth cert online I believe - I believe that this is his birth registration on Ancestry. Frank Lampard registered in the Oct-Dec qtr of 1899. Registration District is Bristol and Inferred County is Gloucestershire. Volume 6a and page 146.

Hope this helps ya in some way,

Annie :)
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: silvery on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:32 BST (UK)
from freebmd again.   Looked for John Lampard marriage to Alice (no surname) between years 1886 to 1890

Dec 1888, Yeovil 5c 821
John Rose Lampard
Alicee Emma Cooper

So if you look in freebmd births years 1864 to 1867 for John Lampard you should find his birth, if it was registered.
Or you can use ancestry.co.uk or findmypast for the censuses and look for him and his family there.  
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: vronlady on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:36 BST (UK)
Name: LAMPARD, John Rose

 Registration district: [?] Mere

County: Wiltshire

Year of registration: 1867

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Volume no:[?]5A

Page no:[?]202
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Captain2 on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:36 BST (UK)
Hello and a very warm welcome to Rootschat  ;).  Are you trying to get a copy of Frank's birth certificate? I'm not sure what you are refering to when you say you have a small brown piece of paper.. is it what is left of his original birth certificate? and you would like a 'new copy' or can you still read the original? or any refering to something completely different?
Anyway.. here is the family in the 1901 census living at 7 Albert Street, Bristol
John R Lampard. Head. Coach Painter. 36. b. Mere, Wiltshire
Alice Lampard. 35. Wife. b. Yeovil, Somerset
William. 12. Son b. Bath.Som
John 10. Son b. Bath. Som
Florence . 9. Daughter b. Bath. Som
Harry 5 . Son. Bristol
Frank 2. Son. b. Bristol

And the reference for the Birth Certificate for Frank Lampard
District : Bristol. County : Gloucestershire.
Year 1899. Quarter Oct - Dec  Vol. 6a Page 146
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Sharon01 on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:37 BST (UK)
Hi,

From Family search

John Rose Lampard
Baptism/Christening Date 17 Nov 1867
Baptism/Christening Place Mere, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name    John Lampard
Mother's Name  Elizabeth

Freereg also has the record. Additional info was that John was an Innkeeper.

Sharon
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: silvery on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:39 BST (UK)
Well fellow rootschatters, I expect we could do the whole tree, but you know ..........................  the search is nice if the poster wants to do it.   :)
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Captain2 on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:43 BST (UK)
Well I think we are leaving the poster more than enough opportunity for the poster  to carry on and hopefully we have all helped along the way with our contributions  ;)  well done everyone! 
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: vronlady on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:43 BST (UK)
john rose father was john rose

RG number: RG10
Piece:1966
Folio: 54
Page:12      

LAMPARD, John Rose Head M 30 1841 Wiltshire
LAMPARD, Elizabeth Wife  F 31 1840 Wiltshire
LAMPARD, Mary Ann Daughter  F 8 1863 Wiltshire
LAMPARD, Emma Louisa Daughter F 5 1866 Wiltshire
LAMPARD, John Rose Son  M 3 1868 Wiltshire
LAMPARD, James William Son  M 1 1870 Wiltshire
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Joy45 on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:48 BST (UK)
Hi
On Christening record John Rose Lampard B: 30 July 1840 Christening 18 Oct 1840 Kingston Deverill Wiltshire
Father Henry Lampard Mother Mary

Joy
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: toastbutler on Wednesday 01 August 12 18:56 BST (UK)
Are you trying to get a copy of Frank's birth certificate? I'm not sure what you are refering to when you say you have a small brown piece of paper.. is it what is left of his original birth certificate? and you would like a 'new copy' or can you still read the original? or any refering to something completely different?

Best post IMHO
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Joy45 on Wednesday 01 August 12 19:10 BST (UK)
Found marriage for Henry Lampard b:abt 1816 too Mary Wookey 3 Sept 1838 Kingston Deverill
Henry's father down as another John Rose Lampard.

Joy
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: welshladyjay on Wednesday 01 August 12 19:19 BST (UK)
Ohhh wow... Thank you all so very much...so much info.. have been wondering how to go about finding this info.. as i was born and bred in South Wales..My dad died aged 57 in 1980 he was only child ,never got round to asking him about his family, my mother always said she had no info not even pictures. she is 91 with dementia and it was while clearing her house out that i found my grandfather bit of brown paper.. i will try and post a pic of it as soon as i can....ive tried looking on sites, but must be the wrong ones as ive not got anywhere....
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: mofid42 on Wednesday 01 August 12 19:24 BST (UK)
I suspect your brown bit of paper is what is known as a 'short' birth certificate....I have one for my grandfather, its a bit bigger than a postcard and not much thicker than tissue paper.
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Guy Etchells on Wednesday 01 August 12 20:01 BST (UK)
Is Your certificate like the 5th example on page
http://anguline.co.uk/cert/birth.html ?
If so it is a "short" birth certificate

It would be possible ( as others have mentioned) to obtain a full certificate (with more information on it) from the GRO.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: welshladyjay on Wednesday 01 August 12 20:36 BST (UK)
yes thats it... ty
will have to see if i need any others...i think i have a cut out of 1 of his brothers who died aged 40..just got to see if dates tally..
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Captain2 on Wednesday 01 August 12 20:37 BST (UK)
Ahh.. that's what you meant  ;) ..
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: welshladyjay on Thursday 02 August 12 13:21 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your help.. any info is gladly accepted, as i am trying to do not only my family history but also my husbands... ::)
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Joy45 on Thursday 02 August 12 15:03 BST (UK)
Hi

would you like any more help with your Lampard line?
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: welshladyjay on Thursday 02 August 12 17:22 BST (UK)
yes please...  :) all help is needed, i cant join some sites as i just dont have the spare cash,and i will need to get birth, marriage, death certificates as and when...
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Captain2 on Thursday 02 August 12 17:41 BST (UK)
To help you in the right direction (hopefully) with John Rose Lampard (snr) taken from the 1851 census HO107/1850. JRL  is aged 70 (born c. 1781) in Kilmington, Somerset. He is at the Bell & Crown in Zeals, Mere, Wiltshire also with him are two grandsons William -15- and Joseph -8- Green both born in Zeals, Wiltshire.
JRL is enumerated as a House & Land Holder.

I have attached a link for you to the familysearch.org site where you will see further details for John Rose Lampard.

https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22john%20rose%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Alampard~%20%2Bany_place%3A%22Kilmington%20Somerset%22~

Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: welshladyjay on Thursday 02 August 12 17:54 BST (UK)
wow that is fantastic..thank you so very much..
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: John1935 on Friday 10 August 12 10:11 BST (UK)
New to Rootschat,and wish I had been here before !!
I am searching for Solomon Macaire's birth date to hopefully find his parentage, all I know about him is : He married Jeanne Boitel on 6th Sept 1761  ( She came from Ronssoy in the Dept Somme. France)- He was a silk Weaver - they lived in St Johns Street Bethnal Green - he employed apprentices - Jeanne died after the birth of their seventh child in 1771 - he three years later married Susanne Betembo - she died in the French Hospital in 1809 - no sign of Solomon - we know he was still alive in 1787 because he witnessed his son's wedding.
We cannot find anymore, and would love to know where he came from Help anybody please
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: Captain2 on Friday 10 August 12 12:27 BST (UK)
Hello John 1935 and a very warm welcome to Rootschat.  ;D. 

In order for you to both ask for the help you need and for RC researchers to respond, each new subject is started with  a new 'post',  and now you would need to start your own post looking for details for Solomon Macaire in order to achieve the best results for you.   I
If you provide as much information as you can (which you have already) and 'post' under 'beginners'  'start a new topic' I'm sure you  will soon have the help you are looking for.
 
The post  'Am new and looking'  was started by welshladyjay as she is looking for details for her particular family, and as I said may not yield results for you.

Good luck  ;)
Title: Re: Am new and looking ..
Post by: John1935 on Friday 10 August 12 12:47 BST (UK)
Will do  - Merci mon Capitaine

Best

JOHN1935 ( ex MN along time ago)