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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: davidpaul on Monday 30 July 12 18:20 BST (UK)
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have herd stories that my grt granfather had a shop or shops in stirling ,have Lucy Watson his wife had a antique shop so i have been told any information or old pics would be greatly received ,have been told this was around the late 1800s 1920s or 30s thanks davidpaul. George was a furniture dealer.
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There's this family in 1901 that looks as if it fits
103 Baker Street, Stirling
George Bulloch, 39, general broker, b. Glasgow
Jennie or Jeanie W, d, 6, b. Dundee
George W, s, 5, b. Stirling
Lucy, d, 10 mths, b. do
Lucy Watson, servant, 28, servant, b. do
Thomas Monteath, lodger, 20, hawker, b. Sauchie
William Jamieson, lodger, 36, general labourer, b. Perth
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Deaths
15 June 1912 Royal Infirmary, Stirling, usual residence 32 Baker St, Stirling
George Bulloch, furniture dealer, married to Jane Sinclair. Aged 51.
10 Dec 1952 St Mary's Wynd, Stirling
Lucy Mary Watson, antique dealer, single. Aged 81.
I can give parents' details if you need them.
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In 1891
25 Temple Lane, Dundee
George Bulloch, 28, General Dealer, b. Glasgow
Jane Sinclair Bulloch, w, 27, weaver, b. Dundee
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The 1911 has George (furniture dealer) and Lucy (housekeeper) at 32 Baker Street, she is still down as Servant and single and he recorded as married. Now 7 children. I don't see Jane/Jean Sinclair Bulloch after 1891 at the moment.
Added - Baker Street is on Google Street view - see http://www.rootschat.com/links/0p8h/
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thanks for all that info would like the parents if don't mind brevitas by the look of it he looks like hes had 7 children by Lucy Watson the servant which i thought many thanks to all for info wonder if theirs any pics out their of them or the shops they had David Paul.
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George's parents - George Bulloch, Ship maker (?) and Janet m.s. Mackay
Lucy's parents - Thomas Watson brewery porter and Mary m.s. Murray
The google link that I gave is reasonable for Baker Street - you can do the same for St mary's Wynd, I'd think. There may be some old photos out there somewhere.
Lots of photos of St Mary's Wynd on Google images :)
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thanks again brevitas will do that .
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Just had a stroll along St Mary's Wynd on Google Street view.
I've had another look and Lucy was at number 9 :)
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This is number 9 :D
http://tinyurl.com/cyht7pm
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many many thanks brevitas did here thro family that they owned property up their but not sure of the facts have other family in the same area so very intrested in anythink that may be connected to them thanks a million davidpaul.
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Glad to have helped, David and thank you for your thanks. It does make a difference to we lookers up :)
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If you're looking for info on Stirling residents and businesses in late 19th and early 20th centuries there's a series of directories available for free download on the internet archive. Cook and Wylie directory for 1903 shows G Bulloch business under Brokers and Furniture Dealers at 99-101 Baker st. In 1909 99-103 Baker St is now McKay's pawnbrokers and George Bulloch is listed as a broker at his residence in 32 Baker St.
Sandy
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Hi Sandy :)
It's nice to see that the census and death info that I found last night and listed above corresponds to the trade directories.
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will have a look at that sandymcj thanks wonder if their daughter continued the shop on think she was called Jeanie blewit thanks again davidpaul.
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:)
Jeanie blewit
She was the informant on Lucy's death cert, described as daughter
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I can confirm Blewit's was a second hand furniture dealer at the top of the town and was still trading in early 1970's when I lived in Stirling. I agree with brevitas - it's good when all these bits of info come together!
Cheers
Sandy
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Jus checked the certificate again and Jeanie Blewitt was living at 8 Melville Terrace when her mother died in 1952
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Jeanie Watson Bulloch married Alexander Blewitt (electrician/joiner) on 5 February 1915 in Stirling.
Jeanie gave Geroge Bulloch, antique dealer, deceased, as her 'reputed father' and Lucy Watson, antique dealer, as her mother.
Address given as residence and place of marriages was 32 Dalgleish Court, Baker Street. Lucy Watson was a witness.
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thanks,
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wondered what happend to the other children in Georges family.
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For others who might help with the searches:
Children showing on the 1911-
Jeanie (married Alexander Blewitt), 15
George, 13
Lucy, 11
Thomas, 9
Maggie, 6
Mary, 4
James, 18 mths
Lucy Bulloch might have married a Charles F Lewis in Anderson, Glasgow in 1919
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a big thanks for that i have know a Jeanie Watson bulloch married a Alexander blewit a Lucy Watson bulloch married a Charles f Lewis and my granparents thomas Watson bulloch married to a Ellen boag thanks brevitas.
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George Watson Bulloch married Margaret Morris McDonald, 1925, Alloa,Clackmannanshire
Mary Watson Bulloch married John Cameron Mcconnell, 1918, St George, Edinburgh
Have to be careful with going much further - e.g. with the grandchildren - as they might well be still living.
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excellent stuff that just leaves one James herd sum had immigrated to where i don't know thanks brevitas are should we call you Sherlock now to go back to George and see how far back i can get the the Watson bulloch clan again thanks,davidpaul.
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I don't see a marriage for him, David - or for Maggie. Do you have any idea when he might have emigrated?
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:D
Got him straight away!
James Bulloch, Glasgow to Montreal Depart 14 April 1933.
Last address in UK - 32 Baker Street, Stirling.
Age 23. Country of future permanent residence - Canada
He seems to be single.
Problem is that Canadian records are difficult to find after 1930-ish (privacy, etc.) so not sure how we can find him.
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that was quick brevitas so Canada was the place that didn't take you long to find James good stuff thanks .
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Possible for Maggie but not too sure-
Margaret Bulloch, Salesgirl, aged 24
Greenock to Montreal - Depart 7 Sept 1929
last address in UK - 61 Carbeth Street, Possilpark , Glasgow
I don't see a death or marriage for her in Scotland - do you have any family rumours about her?
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to be honest only new of george,lucy and my granfather and a few story of sumone immirgrating thanks brevitas.
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re the Blewitt's
I'm just back from my few days away, and am catching up on whats happening on the site, etc.
As for the Blewitt's, I knew them very well, and I know exactly where the shop was, in fact the two of them.
Nellie Blewitt ran the smaller shop in Baker Street, the larger shop/storeroom was in Dalgleish Court, which was better known as 32 Baker Street. I used to go to the house in Melville Terrace, very big grand house, which is still there.
Nellie lived there which was her fathers house, she had married a man called Wingate and they had a son Jim who was at the Allan's school with me. Jimmy Wingate later joined the Police and went to Canada, in the 60's.
I can remember the Blewitt's very well, in fact a cousin called Blewitt got in touch with me a few years back, and I think her son has a pub in Edinburgh. I would need to check up on that again.
I'll look at my stirling collection of pics and see if I can turn up any old pics of the shop in Baker Street or St.Mary's Wynd, but I can't promise.
Stewart
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funny you know the Yates,Ellsworth's and know the bulloch side just great this.davidpaul
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Good morning...I was looking up info on a charles frederick lewis married to my granmother lucy WATSON-BULLOCH in 1919 Glasgow...Does anyone have any info that would help find out what happened to him???
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hello beverly27 looks like we have the same family my granfather thomas watson bulloch and your granmother lucy would of been brother and sister have quite a lot of stuff concerning the bullochs and maybe some on lucy will have to search thro stuff and get back to you regards david.
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That would be awesome..Also know Nellie son James Wingate..he came to live with us when he first immigrated..my father(George) never knew his father Charles so I am trying to find out what I can.
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will see what i can find out but a good starting point is on here as long as you have certs to give dates regarding ur granparents rootschat will find the information if on fb add me as a freind as have a family tree group on their beverly .
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should say you must make 3 post before pm.
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Thanks Davidpaul
I dont know how to add you as a friend, very new to this site. Can you help me with that?
I have ordered my fathers birth certificate and Lucy marriage certificate. Hoping that would give me more info.
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Charles Fredrick Lewis was born 1895 walworth London he was a stoker in the royal navy in 1919 he served on HMS lupin, in 1901 he was living at newington london his father was a Henry Alexander Lewis born 1861 regards David
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have sent you a pm
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charles and lucy married on 9th june 1919 at 4 minchard street glasgow.david
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Also know Nellie son James Wingate..he came to live with us when he first immigrated.
Beverly, you don't know where Jimmy is living now by any chance, I would love to get in touch with him. Stewart
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re the Blewitt's
Nellie Blewitt ran the smaller shop in Baker Street, the larger shop/storeroom was in Dalgleish Court, which was better known as 32 Baker Street.
My GG grandparents and great grandmother's address in the 1881 census. Hi Stewart, you put me right on this one before after I had mistakenly picked out that horrible modern block on the corner as number 32. Can you tell me if this building still exists and do I get to it by walking down the lane at the side of number 30.
George.
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George, I was in Stirling a few months ago and went around that building and took some pics of the old buildings that are still there. I'm just going out for the day, Ill post what I have tomorrow, Stewart
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Thank you very much Stewart, look forward to seeing them.
George.
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stewart if you google james wingate peel police you will find some good reading he became a police chief in canada.
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Behind the right hand side of Baker Street going up are some of the oldest buildings in that area.
If you go up the street and stop at the first corner, that is leading into what is known as Dalgleish Court. The building on the corner is in fact number 30, and because of that entrance most people assume that the other corner is number 32 where the old Lawsons shop used to be. That is wrong, it might be that corner is now 32 but 32 was up that little lane. Dalgliesh Court is that area in front of the big house, what is called Dalgliesh House. 32 Baker Street were the houses on the left hand side, all that area was numbered 32. Let me explain, I lived at the red sandstone building at 23 Baker Street, there were 9 flats in the building, and they were all numbered 23, 24 Baker Street had even more houses, but they were all the same number as was all the tenement blocks at that time, now mind, were going back a while now. So that whole are was 32, there were not only houses but also worksops and businesses, all numbered 32, confusing? not then, the whole area was teeming with tenements, pubs, shops, workshops, vendors you name it. The shops were on the ground level and the entrance to the tenements were by way of closes, still the same today. A great example is if you go up number 24, there were entrances halfway up the close, and then right at the back of the close you could go either to the left or right to get to the other tenement flats, but all numbered 24. Occasionally up some of the penns, not to be confused with the same as a close, there were houses, with their own front door. You might now understand, 32 Baker Street was a penn, not a close, and certainly not a vennal. And if you go round the back and to the side of Dalgliesh House you will see the old houses of 32 Baker Street. The entrance to them is blocked with a gate now. And when I was up there a few months ago, I took this pick. I also spoke to an old guy who had lived in this house and asked him what the address was, yup! 32 Baker Street. I hope this is of help to you.
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Now if we have a look at the corner of Dalgliesh Court and Baker Street you might get a better understanding of what I mean. Look just past the red shop front at the green bins, you will see the entrance to number 24, its coloured sort of beige. That's the close leading to the tenement flats. Now this took you to a number of different flats, and lead to all the houses in the three main buildings in that picture, above that entrance and also to the left and to the right, and they were ALL number 24, it wasn't till years later, and it filled with students that it became 24/1, 24/1a that sort of thing.
Now if you look at the gable end of the building at the far corner, there used to be a building there, it has a shop front and an overhand type of window jutting out on the first floor, that is where Blewitts was, there was also a window round the back of the building. I know this very well, you see, Jimmy Wingate, Stuart Pickles and I went into the old shop, (through the windown) and got balls of wool, and strung them like a spiders web all over the place, to try and give old Nellie a fright.
Years later when I was older, when I was walking up Baker Street, Nellie was sitting out side the shop in Baker Street as she did, and I stopped to talk to her asking about Jimmy. And suddenly a got a bout of guilt and asked her if she remembered the spiders web of wool and confessed to us being the culprits, she smiled and said, 'I've known for years it was you rascals." And that's why I'm trying to get in touch with Jimmy Wingate, to see if he remmbers when we were boys. Now that has brought tears to my eyes. I hope this has helped you, I think I also took a pic of the big house in Melville Terrace when I was up, if you would like I'll look it out for you.
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Stewart, thank you for the pics and also for that very detailed description. I get far more of an idea now. I will have a wander down there when I am next in Stirling.
George.
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stewart will see what i can do have passed a massage on that ur wanting to get in touch wih him and i would like to see where nellie lived as her and my mother where full cousin thanks stewart regards david