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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Gloucestershire => England => Gloucestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: harris122 on Monday 30 July 12 16:24 BST (UK)
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I have written a similar post awhile back but I am hoping this may bring new eyes to the post.
I am looking for a death record and or Birth Record for Kathlyn Mary Sybil Crewe ( maiden name)
She was married to Claude Spencer Harris 22nd March 1929 in Lambeth but I believe ( just a hunch) she was born in Cirencester but I know she was born around 1905. She did divorce Claude around 1950's and she lived in Cirencester.
If anyone is able to look this up I would be grateful
I am also interested in her father William Charles Crewe who may or may not have been born in Cirencester
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There is a Kathleen Mary Crewe born 1903 Cirencester - she appears to be the daughter of Charles Crewe and Fanny Keen.
In 1911 her birthplace is given as - Overley Daglingworth Cirencester Glos.
There are sisters:- Ethel Sophia ; Elsie Lilian and Winnifred Daisy as well as a brother William Charles
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Hi,
Charles CREWE m. Fanny KEEN, 1899 @ St Michael & All Angels, Duntisbourne Rouse, Cirencester 6a 825 Sep Qtr.
Willliam Charles CREWE b.1910 Northleach 6a 344 Dec Qtr.
Victor
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Thank you ever so much for this. Case closed
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Surely Kathleen's birth would be registered as kathleen Mary Sybil Crewe- not just Kathleen Mary???
Suz
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I totally agree but its not. I have both Birth Certificate and M cert also its so odd
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I was wrong Kathleen is not the same person as Kathlyn though similar Kathlyns father was william charles and she was born around 1905. so I am not back to the begining with her. Its thanks to Suz that I know this thank you xxx
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I have just had confirmation that kathlyn/kathleen was burried in cirencester in 1973 many thanks for everyones help
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this must be the death reg you refer to
Kathleen Mary Harris
born 1 Oct 1905
death reg Mar 1973
age 67
Cirencester
7b 1106
the only problem is Kathleen Mary Crewe daughter of Charles and Fanny was not b 1905
This looks like her birth reg
Kathleen Mary crewe
Dec qtr 1903
Cirencester
6a 390
ages onn death certs are only as accurate as the informant knows
So possibly Kathleen had told everyone she was 2 years younger than she really was
a birth date of 1 Oct would be reg in Dec qtr
so maybe "your" Kathleen was born 1 Oct 1903 not 1905
You really need birth cert to confirm
You state you already have birth cert and marriage cert
Could you post details from those certificates????
Suz
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Kathlyn Mary Sybil Crewe married Claude Spencer Harris on 22nd March 1929 in st lukes church in the parish of west norwood. Kathlyn was listed as being 24 Claude listed as 20 . they resided at 69 palace road London. Her father listed as William Charles Crewe profession engineer. Claudes father hubert Claude photographer mother is a witness Marian Spencer Harris.
The birth certificate I thought/ think maybe hers is 1st October 1903 overley cottages Danglingworth rd. Kathleen Mary father Charles Crewe, mother Fanny Crewe formerly keen fathers profession was farm labourer registered november 1903 cirencester gloucestershire.
in june 1929 Kathlyn Mary Sybil Harris gave birth in epsom sadly the baby was still born
1930 living in Alcester son peter born
1937 living in Bromsgrove judith born
1944 living in cirencester John born
Kathlyn is co owner of gas cylinder factory in cirencester
Her husband Claude sperates from wife and fathers a child with another woman though its thought he and Kathlyn divourced.
1948 husband Claude goes to Canada
Son Peter marries Elaine Simpson in 1955
1964 may 30th son Peter Hubert Spencer Harris dies and in funeral announcement it says mother and father Mr and Mrs Spencer Harris so it could be that they were not divourced.
Judith Ann married William Sprackling
John lived in Purdown Hospital and dies in 1997
Judith Ann dies 2000 in Rogate
Claude dies in Rogare 1987
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I think she was plain old Kathleen Mary crewe -and she "jazzed" her name up a bit for her marriage to Claude!!!
She died as Kathleen mary harris - d.o.b. given as 1 Oct 1905
Either informant made a mistake and thought she was 2 years younger - or on the death cert the birth has been mistranscribed it is easy to mistake 3 for 5
My grandfather has age 30 on his cert - he was 36 and was informed he was 36 - but age has been mistranscribed from register to certificate
Suz
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Thank you for that she has been a headache. I know Claude came from a very wealthy family and maybe she thought her father sounded more fun as william charles. it is a little sad that they felt the need to lie but it makes the hunt more fun for us. I was really gutted when I thought I had the wrong family . So now I can include Charles and Fanny Crewe in my tree. xxx
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I would think so - but check Charles' name- sometimes people use their middle names as forenames -and she did have a brother William Charles Crewe
Suz