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Title: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: patacake on Monday 30 July 12 09:43 BST (UK)
In 1817, in Nether Broughton, my 4x g.grandfather Daniel Barker married for the second time. His bride was a widow by the name of Elizabeth Hemsley. Can anyone assist me with her origins, or the identity of her first husband, please? I'm in possession of a will, that suggests to me that her maiden name may have been Gill, but I've still been unable to trace her. Any assistance gratefully received.
Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 30 July 12 13:04 BST (UK)
Sorry at this stage cant help with your query but found this which may be related somehow;

Marriage;
03 November 1810, Tywford cum Thorpe Satchville, Leicestershire
Thomas GILL of Burton Lazars Parish
Mary HEMSLEY

Have you any idea where/when Elizabeth was born and/or Daniel Barker?
Were they young enough to have Children together?
Are they on the 1841 Census?

There are these also;
Marriages;

13 November 1786, St Mary, Hinkley, Leics
Joshua HEMSELEY
Elizabeth WOODWARD

01 August 1787, St Mary the Virgin, Nether Broughton, Leics
William HEMSLEY
Elizth WRIGHT

28 December 1800, St Leonard, Swithland, Leics
Benjamin HEMSLEY
Elizabeth JOHNSON

All on FreeREG www.freereg.org.uk

Trish :)
Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 30 July 12 13:12 BST (UK)
Is it possible Mary HEMSLEY was a Daughter of Elizabeth and her Husband?

I noticed this on Anc;
Leicestershire 1830 Poll Book;
Daniel BARKER, Goadby Marwood, Farmer and Grazier, House and Land
Thomas GILL, Nether Broughton, Grazier, Land

Thomas/Mary Gill are on the 1841 Census in Nether Broughton age 60
Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: patacake on Monday 30 July 12 14:44 BST (UK)
Thanks Trish, I do have the married names of a couple of Elizabeth's siblings, which have so far led me  nowhere, but those names you've found give me more to work from. Thanks again, Pat
Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 30 July 12 15:29 BST (UK)
Your welcome.
Hopefully someone else can help more :)
Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: Mike from Leicester on Monday 30 July 12 19:55 BST (UK)
Greeting’s….Folks ….

Just to add a bit more meat on the bone…….

St: Mary the Virgin.
Nether Broughton..
1817.
  5th. March. 
Daniel Barker. WIDOWER Of the Parish of Goadby Marwood.

Grazier. Aged.45.

Elizabeth Hemsley. WIDOW Of this Parish Aged. 48..
By License.

Also spotted this interesting one ? ;~

St: Mary the Virgin.
Nether Broughton.
1787.
1st August.

William Hemsley. Of Cropwell Bishop Nottinghamshire.
Elizabeth WRIGHT. Of this parish.
By Banns.

MIKE. …….
Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: willsy on Monday 30 July 12 20:05 BST (UK)
Was just about to post some bits for Daniel but Mike was there so just in case have this one for the backburner

Great Dalby   08-Aug   1813   License   
Charles   Barker Parish/Abode Gaodby Marwood      Bach   21   
Mary   Walker   OTP      Spin   20   Of her father Rowland Walker   Farmer


Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: patacake on Monday 30 July 12 20:34 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone, the Barker/Hemsley one is the marriage that I already have. As I say, my difficulty is in finding out the bride's maiden name and the name(s) of her previous husband(s). I'm going to spend some time looking at the ones that you have kindly found.

In her will, Elizabeth names the following as beneficiaries - Sarah Baldock (married sister), Thomas Gill (brother), Phebe and Sarah Goodacre, Elizabeth James and Sarah Wagg (née James) as nieces, as well as various of the Milnes family (no relationship stated). You would think I had plenty of clues there - particularly with her brother's surname being given - and still I can't find her! Based on her brother's surname being Gill, I've tried looking for various Gill marriages (e.g. for Sarah marrying a Baldock, or a Gill marrying a James) but  without success. Perhaps Elizabeth was a widow when she married Mr Hemsley...or perhaps I'm just clutching at straws! I know I have the right will, as she names some of my known ancestors as beneficiaries too.

I recognise the names Goodacre, Gill, Hemsley and Milnes as local to the Melton area, but Elizabeth could of course originate anywhere. I think I'll put her to one side for a while, but in the meantime, all suggestions welcome!

Regards

Pat
Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: patacake on Monday 30 July 12 21:04 BST (UK)
Just a thought about the Cropwell Bishop marriage supplied by Mike. There was a Gill family in Cropwell Bishop. Perhaps 'my' Elizabeth was born in Cropwell Bishop as a Gill...then married a Wright....then married a Hemsley from her home village....then married 'my' Barker. Can't leave her alone yet! Thanks everyone, you've got the grey matter going again. And I think the marriage of Charles, as supplied by willsy, may well be the marriage of one of the Barker sons, so thanks for that too.
 :D
Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: willsy on Monday 30 July 12 21:47 BST (UK)
Just want to run this one by you, do you have anything census wise for Sarah, there is a marriage in Tollerton for a Sarah Wright. Not too great a distance between Cropwell and Tollerton

Sarah Wright to Thomas Baldock Tollerton St Peter Jun 1 1783

but with Hemsley being the one from Cropwell, it maybe coincidence

Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: willsy on Monday 30 July 12 22:09 BST (UK)
have found this one

NETHER BROUGHTON   33   WILLIAM   HEMSLEY   NETHER BROUGHTON   30-Jul   1816   54
Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: willsy on Monday 30 July 12 22:32 BST (UK)
I'm sure you have Daniels burial but put these altogether

GOADBY MARWOOD   49   ANN   BARKER   GOADBY MARWOOD   29-Dec   1830   16
GOADBY MARWOOD   206   CHARLOTTE ANN   BARKER   GOADBY MARWOOD   21-Feb   1883   49
GOADBY MARWOOD   79   DANIEL   BARKER   GOADBY MARWOOD   20-Mar   1838   66
NETHER BROUGHTON   324   ELIZABETH   BARKER   NETHER BROUGHTON   02-Feb   1851   83

LOUGHBOROUGH CEMETERY   5397   DANIEL   BARKER   LOUGHBOROUGH   13-Jun   1883   63
GOADBY MARWOOD   271   JOHN GARDNER   BARKER   GOADBY MARWOOD   25-Feb   1907   77
NETHER BROUGHTON   316   THOMAS   GILL   NETHER BROUGHTON   01-Sep   1850   72
NETHER BROUGHTON   382   MARY   GILL   NETHER BROUGHTON   24-Dec   1858   82

Title: Re: Hemsley marriage1817
Post by: patacake on Tuesday 31 July 12 08:23 BST (UK)
Thanks Willsy, just popped in quickly and at a glance, I think I have most of that, but the Tollerton marriage and the NB burial look interesting. (No time to look through things at the moment, but I seem to remember Sarah died in Costock - again, not too distant). Will spend some more time on them this evening and tomorrow.

You've all given me something to work on, so thanks again.

Pat