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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Offaly (Kings) => Topic started by: Kiwi Girl on Friday 27 July 12 10:18 BST (UK)
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Hi there, I am helping a cousin trace his ancesters. We have arrived at John Bulfin b 1836 in Kings County and emmigrated to New Zealand to seek gold in the South Island. In his Wedding Notice in the newspaper in 1868 it says that his father was William Bulfin from Corrigeen, Kings County.
I have no idea how to go about tracing back from there. Any hints or advice welcome :D
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have a look at these topics :
Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html)
S.
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In his Wedding Notice in the newspaper in 1868 it says that his father was William Bulfin from Corrigeen, Kings County.
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there could be another townland Corrigeen, but the one see is in Offerlane Civil parish in Co. Laois - formerly Queen's County.
There's a Carrigeen in Co. Offaly (King's county) that looks a better fit - Griffith's valuation shows a William Bulfin at Carrigeen townland, Eglish civil parish, holding a house, offices (the term used on Griffith's for workshops & outbuildings) and land of nearly 60 acres.. see :
Bulfin - Griffith's valuation (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=42&Submit.y=16&familyname=bulfin&firstname=&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=)
This entry is dated 1854.
Shane
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Wow :o
Thanks Shane, that looks promising! He rented a house an office and land - so a Farmer?
Couldn't find John on Family Search, and sadly they don't list mothers in the wedding notices!
:)
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John's birth is quite a bit before civil records - so you would need to check for parish records, for a possible baptism. Do you know what denomination this Bulfin family were ?
S.
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John was buried in the Anglican Section of his local cemetery. One of his daughters was married at the Presbyterian Church...
http://www.interment.net/data/nz/otago/lawrence/lawrence_ac.htm
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The Church of Ireland (equivalent to CofE / Anglican) parish is the same as the civil parish in this case, but I dont see any listings for historic records for this parish. I'll check further later on...
The free index on RootsIreland pay-website shows just one Bulfin baptism between 1831-1841 in the records they have for Co. Offaly - but it's seems to be a child named Mary. Haven't worked out the parish/denomination or the father's name - but it doesn't match for William...
Shane
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Thanks heaps for all your help!
I'm off to bed, Saturday Sports tomorrow.
Many thanks,
KG
:)
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Hi there,
There is still a family of Bulfin's in the area on the 1901 census
bulfin 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Derryad/Carrigeen/1463713/)
Here are some details on their children which may come in useful at a later date
thomas bulfin children (https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Abulfin~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aoffaly~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3Athomas~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Aelizabeth~)
This is the marriage of Thomas and Lizzie in case you want to order it from our GRO
Thomas Bulfin
1876
District: Parsonstown
Volume: 3 Page: 588
I suppose there is a possibility that your James and this Thomas were brothers - fingers crossed
Thomas named his first son William, which due to naming traditions in Ireland at the time could suggest that his father was called William too.
Tara
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that Bulfin family definitely look like a good possibility as relations to your John, maybe a younger brother ? ... worth following up.
According to Ryan's Irish Records the historic Church of Ireland records for the parish which cover this area (Eglish) are as listed as lost.
There's two early civil marriage records on the BMD Index in the area for the surname Bulfin that might be worth checking :
Bulfin marriages 1845 -1870 / Parsonstown (https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Abulfin~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3AParsonstown%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1845-1863~&collection_id=1408347)
and also some extracted civil marriage details for the surname - including a two that mention districts or parishes in King's County - i.e. Ettagh and Eglish :
Bulfin marriages 1846 to 1880 (https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Abulfin~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1845-1880~&collection_id=1584964)
Shane
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another possible sibling ?
a marriage in St. Catherine's CofI Dublin in 1859 of a William Bulfin with father William, a land Steward. Bride's name is Catherine Sutherland and her residence is shown as Parsonstown/Birr...
see : link (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e011f90537961)
Shane
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Wow, what a difference a night's sleep makes! I woke up and found more replies on this thread and more possibilities :D
Thank you both so much!
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KG
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Kiwi Girl
As I am doing research on William Bulfin the Irish Argentine writer, your quest interests me. Bulfin is quite a rare name in Ireland and they originate mostly in Co. Offaly (formerly King's County). As other posters have shown, there is a good deal of information on the internet, genealogical as well as historical - please also google William Bulfin, writer and Sir Stanislaus Bulfin. The person you are helping is almost certainly related to them, however distantly. I have tried to fit your 'John, son of William', into what I have learned so far about the Bulfins, but without success. The name William particularly, occurs very often in the genealogy. However, I discovered the following recent death notice online: you can also check it out for yourself:
The death has occurred of Francis John (Frank) BULFIN
Corrigeen, Fivealley, Birr, Offaly
Bulfin, Corrigeen, Fivealley, Birr, Co. Offaly, August 6th,2014.
There are Bulfins still resident in Corrigeen. Perhaps you might consider writing to them? Wishing you luck.
Timmol
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Yay more threads to pull for my cousin in law ;)
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Headstones in Eglish cemetery
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William Bulfin Corrigeen-10/8/1886 (74)
wife-Anne (nee Greene)-7/6/1886 (65)
son-Thomas-12/1/1917 (60)
his wife-Elizabeth (nee Hamilton)-15/3/1912 (60)
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Eamon Bulfin-Died Xmas Eve 1968
He was in command of Pearses Rathfarnham Company during the Rising of Easter Week 1916, and was privileged to raise the Flag over the GPO on Easter Monday morning.
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William Olive Bulfin- 12/7/1955......23/8/1955
Annlawn Roche Kelly Bulfin-7/31963.....18/5/1963
Joanne Paula Bulfin-27/2/1979.....7/6/1979
Nora Bulfin-ex Cumann na Mbann-12/10/1980 (80)
her grandson-Herbert Bulfin-25/10/1981 (23)
Edward William Bulfin-16/11/1997 (69)
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Ruby Bulfin (nee Crampton) Corrigeen Five Alley-4/7/2008 (82)
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William Bulfin-Corrigeen Five Alley-2/9/1957 (79)
eldest son-Robert Bulfin-26/8/1923 (1year-7months)
his wife-Dinah (nee Pardy)-13/12/1981
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Jack
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That is fabulous! Is Bulfin a rare enough name that they would be related to the one who came to New Zealand? I will see if I can find a death notice here and hopefully connect the dots...
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Hi, I'v been doing some research on the Hynes Family from Carrigeen King's Co. Neighbours of the Bulfins. It's a very small townland ( see map http://thecareystree.weebly.com/anne-ferman-1865.htm) only the two families. In 1902 Thomas Bulfin and his son John got caught up in a feud between two members of the Hynes Families. (See court records http://thecareystree.weebly.com/court.html) Thomas Bulfin's neice Mary Ann was married to one of the Hynes, Francis. The Bulfins are Church of Ireland Presbyterian. Hope this helps a bit. John
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Is this the same John Bulfin that married Isobel Moore in Nov 1868, & died in 1910?
If so, his parents would have been William Bulfin & Ann Greene
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Hi ASkinner and Johnbhoward!
My cousin-in-law's John is indeed the one who married Isobel Moore! So Miss Ann Greene has been added to the tree. John, son of William has a son called Thomas - maybe named after a Grandfather? If so William father of John who was born in 1836 may have been a son of Thomas... does that fit with your timeline Johnbhoward?
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For William Bulfin & Ann Greene I have 9 children listed:
Elizabeth [married Ross Moore in NY USA but they soon moved to NZ]
Thomas [married Elizabeth Hamilton in IRE but lately there could be conflicting info] - this my line
Mary Ann [married Henry Haddock in USA]
Robert [ I don't have a marriage but d 1902 Sydney Aust]
Margaret [married John Gill]
Sarah Jane - no info
William [married Alice Cummins in Sydney Aust]
John who married Isobel Moore - as yet I'm not sure if Isobel related to Ross Moore as listed above
George [married Maria Bevan in Sydney Aust]
William Bulfin b1812 IRE I have as the son of Robert Bulfin & Mary Anne -?- [not known]
You would think that with a name of Bulfin it would be easy to trace, however whether the family was catholic or protestant, most had a tendency for large families, with names commonly repeated throughout & down the generations.
If you have suggestions &/or corrections, would appreciate such - where possible I try to list documented {official etc} sources.
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Hi Johnbhoward
Your post about one of Thomas Bulfin's niece Mary Ann, marrying a Hynes.
Do you happen to know who this particular Mary Ann's parents were?
I can't seem to match up with what I have. Mind you, I don't have all the marriages noted.
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John Bulfin & Isobel Moore - article for marriage from NZ PapersPast site
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=TT18681121.2.5&srpos=2&e=--1868---1925--10--1-byDA---0bulfin-ARTICLE- (http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=TT18681121.2.5&srpos=2&e=--1868---1925--10--1-byDA---0bulfin-ARTICLE-)