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Title: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Harper 7 on Thursday 19 July 12 08:18 BST (UK)
Trying to trace parents of William Fraser 1782 (Dunlichity)-1849 (Daviot).  Married Margaret MacIntosh (1791 Dunlichity-1857 Inverness).  Pretty sure fathers name is William also but thats all I can find.   Im new to this but have been looking on ancestry and cant seem to get past these two people.  Any help is grateful.
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 19 July 12 08:34 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat  :)


How certain are you of William's birthdate as there is a baptism showing for a William Fraser in Dunlichity on 19 November 1775.  Parents are recorded as William Fraser and Isabel Dunbar.

If you have a list of William and Margaret's children in date order, you might be able to work out the probable names of their parents, as many used the traditional naming conventions.
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Harper 7 on Thursday 19 July 12 09:08 BST (UK)
Well, maybe we should back up one generation as I dont have much info on William. 

Mary Fraser
Birth 1815 in Dunlichity, Inverness, Scotland
Death 17 Apr 1888 in Forest, 1654311, Ontario, Canada

Married William MacBean
Birth Sep 1800 in Daviot and Dunlichty, Inverness-shire, Scotland
Death 26 Dec 1882 in Forest, 1654311, Ontario, Canada

Kids:
Duncan McBean
1835 – 1901
William Mcbean
1836 –
James Arthur McBean (my great grandpa)
1838 – 1920
Janet Mcbean
1842 –
Margaret Mcbean
1844 –
Donald Mcbean
1846 –
Mary Mcbean
1848 –
Isabella Mcbean
1850 –
Marjory Mcbean
1854 –
Catherine Mcbean
1857 –
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 19 July 12 09:26 BST (UK)
I wonder if this is the family in 1841 (men first!)

Glenbeg, Daviot & Dunlichity

William Fraser, 60, farmer
John, 20
Angus, 15
Donald, 12
Margaret, 50
Rebecca, 27
Marjory, 19
Duncan McBean, 6

Note that in the 1841 census ages of 15 and over  were rounded down into 5 year age bands - so 60 could be 60-64, etc.

Interested in the Duncan Mcbean boy. When did Mary and William marry?
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 19 July 12 09:48 BST (UK)
The 1841 census  entry that I've posted looks good. I see that William McBean and Mary Fraser had a son Duncan baptised Daviot & Dunlichity on 20 April 1835 - as your posting  :)
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 19 July 12 09:55 BST (UK)
In the same township as Mary's parents

1841
Glenbeg, D & D
William Mcbean, 35, carpenter
Mary, 25
William, 4
James, 2
Janet, 4 mths
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: ev on Thursday 19 July 12 09:56 BST (UK)
A welcome from me as well  :)

Just to complicate matters perhaps -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTF2-4C3

Which might match this record  :-\

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYDN-JVK

ev
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 19 July 12 10:04 BST (UK)


That one looks more likely with a daughter Rebecca  - I was checking for Isabels  ;D

The 1841 census entries are the correct families  :)
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 19 July 12 12:04 BST (UK)
Just checked the original entry for Angus b. 1826.

It  reads

'Angus son to Wm McGlashan alias Fraser and Margaret McIntosh his spouse in Glenbeg'

So the William McGlashen to William McGlashen and Rebecca McGillevray, 1778 look like the correct one

 :)
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Harper 7 on Thursday 19 July 12 15:12 BST (UK)
Wow!  You guys are good!  Thanks.  I will try to figure all that out (8am here).  I appreciate your help!  This is all funny because I was adopted and didnt know anything about my fathers line (this line) until a few days ago....and I just got back from Scotland three weeks ago!!!  I wish I had known then, I could have poked around...and spent more time in Inverness, which I loved.  Im hoping to be able to trace this line back past Culloden as I felt some kind of strange pull to that place.  So thanks for the help!
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Harper 7 on Thursday 19 July 12 16:03 BST (UK)
Brevitas, I have a marriage date of 6 Feb 1834 in Inverness.  I am confused by the 1841 census you posted.  So it looks like Duncan lived with grandma and grandpa for a while?  (This is complicated). 

Now onto processing the McGlashen part. lol
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 19 July 12 16:10 BST (UK)
They were living close together in Glenbeg so maybe young Duncan was with his grandparents while Mary looked after the new baby or something. It wasn't all that strange to find one or more grandchildren with the grandparents.

I've been looking at McGlashans - quite a lot around Dalcross and Ardersier (now close to where Inverness airport is) which are not far from Culloden and D & D.
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Harper 7 on Wednesday 05 September 12 05:56 BST (UK)
Can you all share with me where you are getting all this census info?  I can see some of it on familysearch but it doesnt show you all the other ppl in the household (or I dont know how to look at the actual document).  This is very confusing.  I am not actually sure of the names of all those children.  I do know that mary, james and catherine are correct because they were mentioned in James' obituary. 

Thanks for all your help!
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: lestree on Sunday 13 August 23 13:24 BST (UK)
I am also chasing this line and struggling over the McGlashan/Fraser issue.
I am the great great granddaughter of Donald Fraser (1826-1901) through my mother. Donald was the brother of Mary McBean, born Fraser (1814-1888). There were ten children of William Fraser (1782-1850) and Margaret McIntosh (1782-1857)
I did see a record of a William McGlashan marrying Margaret Fraser (born McIntosh), will look for it again as I can't remember the date. could they have remarried under her married surname and his alias??? I have a solid gold wedding band from my late mothers jewelry that she never knew where it came from, perhaps a new ring for the second wedding. It is a double band merging underneath to a single band. Just tossing around some crazy thoughts lol. 
Title: Re: William Fraser 1782-1849 Invernesshire
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 13 August 23 22:49 BST (UK)
Im new to this but have been looking on ancestry and cant seem to get past these two people.
See https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0