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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: mrd on Tuesday 17 July 12 12:43 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone,
Does anyone know whether there are records of incoming immigrants to the UK?
I am looking to see whether my people arriving from Italy (around 1890-1910) would have been recorded/listed as they arrived/landed in the UK?
Surely there must have been some kind of Customs/Immigration at the ports no?
Any help extremely grateful!
Best wishes,
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You could look at the National Archives Research Guide on immigration at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/atoz/i.htm#
Stan
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Ancestry holds these immigration records:
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869
Irish Immigrants: New York Port Arrival Records, 1846-1851
New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
if you post some names /dates of birth etc i am happy to check.
Diddy
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Hi Diddy,
Thanks for your reply!
Looking for a Liberato Deciantis
b.1866 - 1874
(it's a little vague as this is part of the problem!)
Could even be born earlier than 1866... :-(
It seems there are better records from people travelling in/out long distance than those crossing the Channel...
You'd have thought that at the ports they would have also had documented peoples transits... :-/
Thanks again
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Hi, I cant find him on the immigration lists. there is a tree on A* with his family stating birth abt 1868 Sore, Frosinore, italy with parents /wife /children etc. assume this isn't yours. do you have all names etc?
also 1901 census he is living as a lodger in Fulham born 1874 italy as an ice cream vendor.
1911 with wife & family no age given! street organ lender married abt 1891.. no marriage found on freebmd so suspect he married italy.
Diddy
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death on freebmd as:
Liberato De Cianti march 1940 age 71 Fulham 1a /690
tree on A* has 24/3/1940
this makes birth year 1869 if right -usually given by realtives so may be vague.
Diddy
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Hi Diddy,
That's my Gt Grandfather indeed.
I have all the records since they settled in the UK.
However, what I was wondering is whether there are records of the moment they landed in the UK.
So I can see which date and where people actually landed and what details were recorded at that moment.
Much like the Ellis Island records for passengers arriving in NY or even those arriving in Southampton etc. from the US, South Africa etc.
I seem to be able to find those kinds of records but nothing for people say who just cross the channel from Europe (if that makes sense?)
Best
Carlo
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The UK Passenger lists 1878-1960 on Ancestry,only have those passengers coming into the UK from further afield than Europe.
See the coverage here http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1518
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The Registration of Aliens Act 1836, was in force until it was replaced by the 1905 Aliens Act. After 1869 alien passenger lists under the 1836 Act were kept for only five years after which they were destroyed. See Acts of Parliament and Migration Records - the 1800s
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/intro/migration/parliament3.htm
Stan
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Interesting Stan!
So I wonder about the records made around 1890's - 1900's... I wonder if they were destroyed too....
1895 up until 1905 would suit me fine.
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According to the site http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/intro/migration/parliament3.htm after 1869 all records five years old were destroyed, so I assume the last to be destroyed were those for 1905. You can see the 1905 Act from this link http://www.movinghere.org.uk/search/catalogue.asp?RecordID=77093&ResourceTypeID=2&sequence=6
Stan
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l too have been looking for my gt grandfathers entry into UK about 1870s and like your ancestors seems to have got off in UK instead of US he was the only Travi to come to UK but have found many in US unfortunatly l have had no replys from US, so thankyou for your thread and now l know his entry record was distroyed l can stop trawling through records.
Sandra
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Sorry seem to have got 2 threads mixed but entry record info was the help l needed :-[
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Hi Sandra,
Yes it seems a huge shame that the UK entries have been deleted... :-(
This info would have been really useful... to tie up dates and people that traveled together and even the names they traveled under etc.
Where does the Travi family/name originate from?
Carlo
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Hi Carlo,
The first record l have is 1881 Francesco Travi b1855 Italy with wife Sarah and sons Francis 1877 and Charles 1879. l then found marriage of Francis (Anglicized)
Travi Wireman
to Sarah Barney 1882 father George Barney, Carpenter and Francis Travi Tailor. they go on to have another 6 children and l have found Births for all except for Francis 1877 My grandfather and Charles1879.
On census my grandfather always said he was born Clerkenwell same for Charles. l have tried for a few years now to find births (and the grandaughter of Charles has done the same) but nothing.
I can find no other marriage for Francesco and nothing under Barney but then again l have not been able to find anything for Sarah Barney even after 6 BCerts. so brick wall with her.
l am certain Francis 1877 and Charles are sons of Francesco because the descendants especially the males can have nothing else but Italian Genes by their looks and colouring.
Francesco was the only Travi to come to UK and all Travi in UK are his descendants.
But he only ever puts Italy l have looked as Travi name in US and most of them come from N. Italy around Como area, l have tried to contact people in US but have had no luck.
so afraid l am at a dead end.
Thanks Sandra