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Title: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 15 July 12 18:12 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any idea where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?  ???
I've found it on a baptismal record and was trying to find out where it was.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 July 12 18:34 BST (UK)
Could you give us the details of the baptism (church, date, name, etc.) which might help to figure it out. (don't think it's a place in Coleraine but perhaps the record was difficult to decipher)
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 15 July 12 18:38 BST (UK)
Hi.
Patrick McGonigle      
Baptism:   24-May-1846
Address:   Standalone   Parish/District:   COLERAINE
Co. Derry
Roman Catholic
Parents James McGonigle & Sara McLeese

I don't know the church, but the Patrick I am looking for later married an Elizabeth (McLaney or McLary) in 1879 in St Columba Catholic Church in Waterside.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 15 July 12 18:46 BST (UK)
P.S. It was on rootsireland, not from an original record.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 July 12 19:03 BST (UK)
I know Coleraine well and suspect 'standalone' is some sort of mistransciption if it is meant to be the place.

Coleraine has two Catholic parishes- one on each side of the River Bann. St. John's is in  Killowen/Waterside (baptisms start 1843) and some of their records are on microfilm in Coleraine Library (don't have the exact date of holdings).
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 15 July 12 19:07 BST (UK)
Thanks for that. At least I can give up on finding it as a place. My dad and his mum's side of the family were all born in Coleraine/Derry. These are his great grandparents. Unfortunately, I don't live there and am reliant on online information for the moment. This site has been great for finding things out though. Thanks for replying so quickly  :D
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 15 July 12 19:09 BST (UK)
Hi,
   The closest I can find to the letters used in "Standalone" in Mountsandel, Coleraine.

Regards
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 July 12 19:21 BST (UK)
Wonder if it's Strand Road (Waterside)? Will have a look through some books to see when it first appeared.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 15 July 12 19:24 BST (UK)
Strand Road would make sense, as he later lived in Pate's Lane with his wife and family.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 July 12 19:28 BST (UK)
I'm not sure when I'll ever get a chance to pop into Coleraine Library when I'm in town but if I have a half hour to spare will try to check St. John's records and see what is actually written in the register.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 15 July 12 19:30 BST (UK)
Ah, that would be very kind of you ... no rush. Any help is always appreciated. Thank you  :D
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: llarge on Saturday 01 June 13 02:54 BST (UK)
The word should be Stanalone not Standalone.  My gr.gr.grandparents lived in Stanalone,Ballyhacket,Dunboe,county Derry,Northern Ireland.  I have been searching for years for the word Stanalone. Just last week I found out the word Stanalone is a townland in Dunboe,county Derry. So I narrowed my search down and with the help of the Derry county genealogy center they were about to tell me where it was located. My gr.grandfather said he was from Coleraine, this is the closest large city to Stanalone. Hope this information has helped. It was a mystery to me for years!! Please feel free to contact me if you'd like.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: gaffy on Saturday 01 June 13 05:14 BST (UK)

I think you're onto something, but the only actual townland I can find is Stanalane, in County Antrim.

Specifically, in Dunluce parish, Barony of Dunluce Lower, Coleraine Poor Law Union.  One of several old forms for its name is Standulon (17th C).

Note also a place called Stanalin in County Londonderry, in the townland of Bellemont More, Ballyaghran parish, Barony of North East Liberties of Coleraine, Coleraine Poor Law Union.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: nannyj on Saturday 01 June 13 08:46 BST (UK)
Thank you both!  :D
Will have a look back through my notes now.
Been spending a lot of time on the Dublin and Essex sides of my family recently.
Regards.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: llarge on Sunday 02 June 13 01:12 BST (UK)
I have documentation of Stanalone being in Dunboe,county Derry. According to Coleraine RC baptismal records and Articlave birth registers Stanalone is located in one of the Ballyhackets in Dunboe,county Derry. I also have several letters dated in the 1860's with Stanalone being the place my ancestors lived.  Not sure if there can be more  "Stanalone" townlands or not. I also received this information confirming it from Derry county genealogy center.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 02 June 13 04:44 BST (UK)


Derry county genealogy center must mean that there is simply a place called Stanalone in one of the Ballyhacket townlands which all lie beside each other (Glenahorry, Lisawilling, Magilligan, Toberclaw), for I can't see any townland called anything like Stanalone in the parish of Dunboe.

If that is so, given where the 4 Ballyhacket townlands are, that would place Stanalone about 1 - 2 miles SW of Castlerock.

The townland of Stanalane in Dunluce parish lies several hundered yards west of Bushmills.

And the place called Stanalin in the townland of Bellemont More in Ballyaghran lies about 2 miles east of Portstewart.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 02 June 13 09:17 BST (UK)
Gaffy is absolutely correct. There is no townland called Stanalone in the area (or Co. Derry)- it is merely a local name for a portion of a townland. It may have been used in church records or by family members but is it not a townland, so when checking sources like Griffith's Valuation, census, etc. you will need to use the actual townland name.
The Valuation revision books are now online (www.proni.gov.uk) and go up to c1930 so you might be able to use then to find where your family lived.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 02 June 13 10:18 BST (UK)

OK, here's another guess.  In reply #2, the query was about Patrick McGonigle, baptised May 1846, to father James McGonigle (mother Sara McLeese), address "Standalone".

In light of what was kicked off by the post of llarge, I looked at Griffiths Valuation for the townlands of Stanalane, Bellemont More, and the 4 Ballyhackets.

The only relevant hit I could find was James McGonigle in Ballyhacket Lisawilling.

Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: llarge on Monday 03 June 13 01:52 BST (UK)
My ancestor Patrick Gillen lived in Ballyhacket Lisawilling and leased property in Ballyhacket Magilligan. So I believe (with documentation!!) that Stanalone is in one of the Ballyhackets in Dunboe,co Derry. I have really enjoyed this small debate over the location of Stanalone. Have tried for years to trace my Irish ancestry and just recently starting uncovering new information.  Very exciting.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: llarge on Monday 03 June 13 01:59 BST (UK)
Gaffy going over my research from Derry county genealogy center, they said that Stanalone was a "place name" not a townland. I am the one that used the term "townland". I am not that familiar with the terms used for "towns,counties and cities" in Ireland. In the US we have states,cities,counties,townships,parishes etc. I'm learning as I'm going. For the past 20 years I have concentrated on the US,Belgium and Luxembourg in my research.
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 03 June 13 08:00 BST (UK)
See reply #3 in this Resource topic about townlands-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442194.0.html
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: ringcroft on Friday 06 September 13 23:47 BST (UK)
I too have birth records for Stanalone, part of the Townland of Ballyhacket Lisawilling in the Parish of Dunboe.  In the local graveyard (St Mary's) there are headstones denoting residents of Stanalone.  Civil registration records show Articlave, Coleraine as the Registration District.
Best wishes, Mac
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: llarge on Sunday 08 September 13 00:41 BST (UK)
Mac, Thank you for your reply.  I'm very interested in the cemetery records of St Mary's as my family was Catholic. Where did you locate the records? I have found my family on the Griffiths valuation. Also from a death record of one of their children. The record was recorded in Articlave. What is the time frame for your Irish Ancestors in Ballyhacket? My family was in the same exact location.  So many questions!!  Thanks Laurie
Title: Re: Where or what was 'standalone' in Coleraine c.1845?
Post by: ringcroft on Sunday 08 September 13 18:30 BST (UK)
Hi
St Mary's graveyard appears on the website www.discovereverafter.com (if you type St Mary's, Dunboe into Google you'll find it).  My grandmother and some of her siblings were born at Stanalone in the 1880s.  I have also traced records from the First Dunboe Presbyterian church in Articlave relating to births at Stanalone from the 1850s/60s.  Mac