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Title: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: cornishharbour on Sunday 15 July 12 14:35 BST (UK)
Hello everyone,
I am keen to find out more about my Kent ancestors, in particular (at the moment) those with the surname my Gatehouse. 

I believe that my gt, gt grandfather, Charles, was baptised in Deal in 1821 and wondered whether anyone has a record of his parents and/or any siblings.  Looking on IGI, the baptism of Charles was the only one of the family I could find in Deal - father Henry, with no mention of mother.

My Gatehouse family was in the Dover area in all the various Census reports and, in some, it states that Charles (sometimes known as Richard) was born in Walmer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: redtonyt on Sunday 15 July 12 15:14 BST (UK)
There is a baptism record in St Leonard's Church, Deal as follows:-

16 December 1821 Charles s/o Henry & Rachel GATEHOUSE - North Wall, Lower Deal, Father's Occupation given as Chairmender.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Tony
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: Victor Harvey on Sunday 15 July 12 15:18 BST (UK)
Hi,
Please see my pm.
Victor
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: cornishharbour on Sunday 15 July 12 15:45 BST (UK)
Hello Victor,

Sorry, but I don't understand pm!  I'm probably missing something very simple!
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: cornishharbour on Sunday 15 July 12 15:47 BST (UK)
Hello Tony and thanks for the info. 
Do you have access to local baptisms and marraiges? I wonder if there is a record of the marriage of Henry and Rachel, or any other children?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: BettyofKent on Sunday 15 July 12 16:33 BST (UK)
There are a couple of Gatehouse references in the Walmer Poor Law records, they may be of some use.

Archive Ref U3/60/13/44
1817 GATEHOUSE Henry & Judith, a family with one child (Henry 5m)
Parish: East Malling

Archive Ref U3/60/13/45
1817 GATEHOUSE Willam & Ann, a family with one child (William 11wks)
Parish: East Malling


Betty
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: cornishharbour on Sunday 15 July 12 16:59 BST (UK)
Thanks Betty.

Does the parish refer to where they were living when they got relief or where they had come from? 

I thought East Malling was quite some way from Walmer, or is there another one?

Thanks, Sally
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: BettyofKent on Sunday 15 July 12 18:19 BST (UK)
That's all the info I'm afraid. I got the details from a KFHS CD, but have discovered them also online: http://kfhs-deal.bravehost.com/poor_law/poorlaw.htm

As far as I know there is only one East Malling, which is about 40 miles from Walmer.

Betty
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: cornishharbour on Sunday 15 July 12 19:44 BST (UK)
Thank you again - it may well tie in somewhere along the way.
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: redtonyt on Monday 16 July 12 18:27 BST (UK)
I have looked for more records in relation to Henry and Rachel Gatehouse but to be frank I have found none!  ???

However, I have put together some records relation to Gatehouse with Henry generally as the principal.  Sadly they raise more questions than supplying any solid answers.  ???

They are in chronological order.

The Parish of Walmer.

7 Jan 1816 Henry s/o Henry and Judith GATEHOUSE Labourer.  Baptism
28 Jan 1816 Henry GATEHOUSE 5 weeks.  Burial
5 Feb 1816 Henry GATEHOUSE (Ba) to Judith GRANT (Sp) both otp.  Marriage
Witnesses Jane Smeed and John Norris
3 Nov 1816 Henry s/o Henry and Ann GAITHOUSE Labourer.  Baptism bn Oct?
This one seems to fit with the family, as found by Betty, in Walmer Poor Law.

The Parish of Charlton

7 Jan 1827 Richard s/o Henry & Judith GADHOUSE Labourer.  Baptism

The following Burials
27 Apr 1833 Henry GATEHOUSE age 47
29 Oct 1840 Judith Ann GATEHOUSE age 41 from Buckland.

One marriage of note
22 May 1854
Henry RATCLIFF (19 Ba) Brickmaker – Father John, Brickmaker
Rachel GATEHOUSE (18 Sp) of Buckland – Father Henry, Labourer

Whilst looking through Walmer I noted two baptisms for children of William and Ann GAITHOUSE.

Whilst looking through Charlton I noted baptisms for children of Charles GATEHOUSE.  One has to assume another family.  Oh no.  ::)


Lastly I have added in two baptisms from St Mary, Dover.  I am not sure if and where they fit into the overall scheme of things!

1819 Jun 2 Catherine D of Henry & Judith GATEHOUSE Hougham Kent; Labourer
1836 Jul 13 Rachael Ann D of William & Judith GATEHOUSE otp (Labourer)

To be honest there seem to be some obvious errors in the recording of names that it is going to be difficult to reach any conclusion with 100% confidence.  ::) ::)

Sorry I cannot be more helpful.  : :(

Best of luck,
Tony
Title: Re: Gatehouse family from Walmer & Dover, Kent
Post by: cornishharbour on Monday 16 July 12 18:56 BST (UK)
Thanks you so much Tony - all the info is greatly appreciated even if it does raise more questions than it answers!!

I have found a family with mother and father Henry and Rachel Gatehouse in the 1841 Census but they were in Shaftsbury with no mention of "my" Charles (but then he would be old enough not to be living with them) - but if this is them, why was Charles baptised in Deal?

They are still in Shaftsbury in 1851 - Rachel born in Wiltshire, with Henry and son James born Shaftsbury.  Henry is a Cordwainer, so nothing that would take them to Deal.  So probably not the right family - although it might be interesting to see if I can find a marriage for them outside Kent.

Kind regards,

Sally