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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: LloydG on Saturday 14 July 12 03:06 BST (UK)
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Greetings from New Zealand! George married Mary THOMPSON 18.5.1875 in Morpeth. Their daughter - Sarah Thompson KENNING (my grandmother, who married William Robinson GLEESON here in NZ) was born in Bebside abt 1880. I think there were more children too. All/some emmigrated to ?Australia and some came on to NZ. I'd love to find out more about the Thompsons and Kennings.
Any help/suggestions appreciated!
Lloyd Gleeson, New Plymouth NZ
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1881 census
RG11/5119
North Seaton,colliery
William Kenning,coal miner aged 30, born Derbyshire
Mary,aged 26
Robert,aged 7
Margaret,aged 6
Jane,aged 3
Sarah 11 months
all born Northumberland
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Wow! That was quick! Thanks so much for the speedy and helpful reply! I am indebted to you.
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1861 Census
No 1 Tunnel Row,
Claycross, Derbyshire
RG9/2525/110/48
John KENNING, 41, Head, Mar , Coal Miner, born Melbourne, Derbyshire
Margaret Kenning, 36, Wife, Mar, born Percy Main, Northumberland
Abraham Kenning, 14, Son, born Cramlington, Northuberland
Robert Kenning, 12, Son, born Cramlington
GEORGE W, 10, Son, born Claycross, Derbyshire
Mary A Kenning, 8, Daug, born Claycross
Marriage Reg;
John KINNING, (note spelling) Dec 1842, Tynemouth, 25 437
On the same page is Margaret BARRAS
1851 Census John/Margaret are not together. He is with his Parents and down as Married and Margaret and 1st 3 Children are Visiting a Shanks? (hard to read) Family.
Will post all this later.
With Margaret are;
JANE 1844
ROBERT BARRAS 1849
GEORGE W 4mths
Trish :)
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Marriage
Morpeth district
April May June 1873
William Kenning Mary Thompson,
John Kenning
baptism
Ashington and Newbiggin
9th of September 1877
William and Mary
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New South Wales ,Immigration journals
December 8th 1883
Immigration date 4th September 1883
Ship,Assaye
Robert Kenning,depositor/sponsor
George William Barras Kenning,a coal miner aged 32 ,born Camb? Northumberland
Mary Kenning aged 27 born Northumberland,wife
Robert T Kenning aged 9
Margaret aged 8
John aged 7
Sarah aged 2
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Robert seems to be the sponsor for others to go to Australia,
Ship Blairgowrie
sailing 28th of April 1881
Matthew Hall a miner aged 31 ,Bebside
Martha Hall aged 29
Mary A Hall aged 9
Matthew Hall aged 7
Jane Hall aged 4
Robert Hall aged 4
all born Northumberland
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I am assuming you know the circumstances of Williams death in 1893,Mount Pleasant Wollongong
if not I will post it ,but its sad
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The shops manifest actualy gives Marys birth place as Cumberland and her mother as Sarah Thompson,
and they are going to brother Robert Kenning
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I'm afraid I am ignorant of William's death circumstances. I do know we're somehow related to the proprietors of Thompsons and Nubley Bros Transport Companies in Wollongong Australia - but I'm new to this genealogy thing... I'm 69 and retired and my daughter has been asking about our family history. I've found old family photos (sadly with no names or dates) and filling in the family tree is like trying to do a jigsaw puzzle when you don't know what it's supposed to look like, and the pieces are scattered everywhere!
I really do appreciate the assistance you all are providing to a complete stranger. Take a bow all of you!
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Australian archives have things you may like to research ,
Robert Thompson Kenning,
application to join the Australian Imperial force,
born Wollongong,NSW,aged 25
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1871 census, Paradise Row, Cowpen,
John Kenning, head, 51, Pedlar
Prudence ", wife, 37
Abraham ", son, 25, Pedlar
William ", son, 21, Coal Miner
John ", son, 11, Scholar
All down as born Derbyshire.
RG10/5134/22/38
1881 census, Private House, Cowpen,
John Kenning, head, 61, Green Grocer, b. Derbyshire,
Prudence ", wife, 48, b. Derbyshire,
Sarah Ann ", 9, dau, b. Horton,
Prudence ", 4, dau, b. Horton,
RG11/5092/101/28
A couple of marriages on FreeReg at Woodhorn St. Mary.
23 Nov 1870. John Kenning, Widower, Pedlar, age 47, and Prudence Jervis, Widow, age 37, both of North Seaton. Grooms father - Abraham Kenning, Pedlar. Brides father - Joseph Roberts, Miner.
30 June 1871. Abraham Kenning, Pedlar, age 24, and Elizabeth Thompson, age 20, both of North Seaton Colliery. Grooms father - John Kenning, Pedlar. Brides father - Anthony Thompson, Miner.
A couple of possible burials at Bedlington St. Cuthbert.
23 Feb 1866. Margaret Kenning age 40 of Netherton Colliery.
29 Feb 1884. John Kenning age 64 of Bebside Colliery.
A public family tree on Ancestry has more info.
Has the marriage cert, Oct 16 1843, Cramlington, of John Kinning, Pitman of West Cramlington, and Margaret Barrass, of High Colliery. Grooms father - Abraham Kinning, Potter. Brides father - Robert Barrass, Pitman.
1841 census,
Claycroft Chappel St., North Wingfield, Derbyshire.
Abraim Kenning, 50, Potter, N,
Elizabeth ", 50, N,
Abraim, ", 20, Potter, N,
John ", 20, Coal Miner, N,
and several other Kennings.
HO107/196/13/7/10
Alan
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William Kenning
aged 40
born Derbyshire England
address,Mount Pleasant,Wollongong,
estimated to have a £100.00
Commited suicide by hanging
inquest 11th of July 1893
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Hi,
Trove online newspaper resources have this, 12 July 1893~
William Kenning a widower and miner working at Mount Pleasant colliery, has committed suicide by hanging. He placed a rope around his neck stood on a chair, tied the rope to a rafter and then kicked the chair away. Kenning was blind having lost his sight through an accident in a colliery. He leaves seven children totally unprovided for.
claire
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Married in Morpeth !
Morpeth was the name of a Registration ( births, marriages and deaths) District which covered a wide area beyond the town of Morpeth, which included communities at North Seaton, Ashington, Newbiggin, Bedlington, etc. I guess the marriage of George and Mary might have been in Ashington/North Seaton area, rather than in the town of Morpeth.
The Registration District for the communities of Bebside Colliery and Bebside Furnace, Horton, Cramlington etc was Tynemouth RD.
(Trivia Angle- I was born in Bebside Colliery- about 60 yrs after Sarah. The colliery village was demolished
c.1953- pit was closed down. Even as late as 1950s, the houses had no electricity or water supply, and only outside earth closets. But sad to say Paradise Row, at Bebside Furnace, about a mile away, was certainly no paradise. )
Michael
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Thanks everyone.
I have Geo Wm Barras Kenning mar 1873 to Mary Thompson whose mother was Sarah - but no father's name or maiden name for Sarah (yet!)
And I have John Kenning/Kinning (father Abraham Kinning and mother Elizabeth -no maiden name but both b around 1791) mar Margaret Barras 1843, whose father was Robt Barrass but nothing abt her mother, and no dates.
Can I impose on someone to help me further if possible please? (I don't know what the 'currency' used for bribes over your way (dolly mixtures?) but here the promise of chocolate fish opens many doors!) :)
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Chocolate fish and dolly mixtures ,yes I am easily bribed,
but I am not sure that the registrars office will be,
I did try Kendal mint cake once in North Shields,
any way with a name like Thompson,I think you need the marriage certificate to confirm the father of Mary Thompson,
have a look at this family,
1851
Holywell East Holywell colliery
HO107/2412
John Thompson Head,33,colliery labourer
Sarah ,wife,37
William ,son,14,coal miners labourer
Jane,13
David,11,coal miners labourer
John,8
Mary,5
all born Earsdon
1841 in East Holywell colliery
with children William,Jane and David
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1861
Office Row
Holywell
RG9/3847
John Thompson,aged 43,colliery banksman,born Morpeth
Sarah Thompson,wife aged47 born Earsdon
William Thompson,aged 24 born Earsdon,coal miner
Mary Ann Thompson,aged 15,servant,born Earsdon
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One more query please -
I have Geo Wm Barras Kenning mar (Morpeth Dist) 1873 to Mary Thompson. Their daughter, Sarah Thompson Kenning was born in 1880.
A bag of aniseed gob-stoppers to anyone who can find Sarah's actual birth date!
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Her birth is registered Morpeth district ,June 1880
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I am researching ROBINSON in NZ. I have lots of info re Robinsons in Australia. My family came from Northallerton in Yorkshire and went to NZ c 1846.
Regards
Graham Robinson
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Hi Graham - The good ship 'Gertrude' sailed from Gravesend 1 Nov 1862 with heaps of Robinsons on board. However, the only matches with ‘my’ Robinsons were Father William, Emma (26), and Matthew William (12). They arrived in Auckland NZ 9 Jan 1863.
It would have been William’s intention to get himself established and create a home for the family before sending for the rest of them.
So it came to pass that mother Eleanor, John William (19), Robert Henry (10), Eleanor 17), Dorothy Jane (15), and Hannah Maria (11), boarded the 'John Duncan' in Gravesend on 8 Oct 1863 and sailed to Auckland - arriving 23 Jan 1864. They settled in Takapuna.
In 1872 Hannah married Charles GLEESON and they moved to Huntly (establishing Gleesons Bakery). Hannah died in 1894 leaving Charles with 7 children - the youngest age 5. She is buried in Huntly Cemetery - the exact location unknown.