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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: joancrellen on Friday 13 July 12 23:09 BST (UK)
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There is a death record for a Mary Snelling as follows:- 1950 (4) Bethnal Green 5c 189 [aged 87]
Electoral roll records show a Mary Snelling living at 16, Ramsey Street, Bethnal Green from around 1918 to 1951. There aren't any other Snellings with her. Allowing for the fact that the 1951 roll info. would be collected in 1950, and as she seems to have disappeared after that date, I am assuming that the above death record could be hers.
Would that mean that she might possibly be buried at St. Matthew's Church? If so, would any of you good people out there be able to access the burial record in order to obtain more info. to verify, or otherwise, that this is the Mary I have searched for for so long? The age is, at the moment, the only detail which fits my Mary.
I know I could send for the death certificate but Mary has proved so elusive that I would like to have more info. before doing so.
Regards, Joan
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According to this
http://www.burial.magic-nation.co.uk/bgbethnalgreen.htm
burials in St. Matthew's were discontinued after 1853. London churchyards were pretty full by the mid-19th century and people tended to be buried in the huge cemeteries built further out. I don't know which cemeteries are most used by Bethnal Green, but in 1950 there's also the possibility that Mary was cremated.
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Thanks for that info. Jeuel.
I'll hope and pray someone might come across her, or already have her in their research.
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Hi
A burial or cremation register would give her date of burial, name and address. Other than the date you would have all the remaining information. If buried and the plot in the cemetery was bought privately, that register would give the date of purchase and by whom and their address and the names and dates of people buried in the plot and at what depth. Many families could afford the funeral and burial but not the cost of purchasing a plot. The closest cemetery would be Tower Hamlets - registers held at the London Metropolitan Archives. Abney Park Cemetery Hackney registers are online. Her name does not appear. Information on those two cemeteries can be found here.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,403485.20.html
English death certificates give limited information
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_176222.pdf
She doesn't appear to have left a will.
Regards
Valda
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Many thanks Valda.
I'm not surprised she didn't leave a will. I cannot imagine her having money. Her husband died in 1896 and she was in and out of the workhouse until 1907, from which date she seems to have disappeared.
I've checked possible marriages but no joy, so am assuming she would die as Mary Snelling.
Joan
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Hi.
My g grandmother was a Snelling.
They lived in Little Ilford/Manor Park area.
They come from Essex back in the 17 and 1800's and i do have a Mary who was born 1801
Not sure if this helps you but.
Regards,
F H
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I just signed for Rootschat today to reply to the post re Mary Snelling. I believe she is my great Grandmother . My grandmother was Alice Isabella Snelling , born 1896 in BG. She married my grandfather Charles William Miller in 1917 . Her address at the time of marriage was 16 Ramsey Street . I only checked the electoral regs yesterday and found Mary was still at that address until 1950. I imagine it must be the same one- I assumed she died a lot earlier that but i was never sure. If it is the same one , her husband died in 1900 .My father Charles Miller was born at 22 Ramsey Street. Hope this helps
Regards John
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Hi John
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
According to her profile, Joan hasn't been online here for a few weeks but should receive email notifications that we have posted and hopefully come back soon.
Dawn
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Hi there,not sure if this helps,but according to https://www.deceasedonline.com/ there is a Mary Snelling buried on 30 Dec 1950 at Manor Park Cemetery Newham.
You can pay a small fee and look at the burial register or check out who else is in the same grave.
Although somehow I doubt it's family, as there are 5 other people in the same grave.
Carol
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There's only 1 Mary Snelling in the death index Dec 1/4 1950 so is highly likely to be the same person mentioned in the opening post.
Dawn
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Hi again . I thought it may be Manor Park , as my grandmother Alice Isabella Miller ,who I never knew (nee Snelling and daughter of Mary)
died in 1933 in Bethnal Green and was interrred in Manor Park , but I believe some work was undertaken a few years back and some of the graves may have been disturbed
Regards John Miller
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Hi everyone,
Many thanks to all those who have sent replies, and apologies for not replying to them. For some reason I did not get the e-mails about them until the one today.
Having read through them all, it would seem the 1950 burial was of Alice's mother. Unfortunately she is not the Mary I'm searching.
I'll keep searching. I'll be trying to find a connection between this Snelling family and the one I am researching.
Joan
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Hi Joan
about 'missing' notifications, check your profile and look at your email notifications.
There are several options, instantly, only for the 1st reply, weekly, never
If you have selected 'only the 1st reply' and you miss it, you won't know there have been more.
You might want to consider the 'instant' reply to make sure you get a notification for each reply.
Dawn
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I just signed for Rootschat today to reply to the post re Mary Snelling. I believe she is my great Grandmother .
My grandmother was Alice Isabella Snelling at the time of marriage was 16 Ramsey Street .
I only checked the electoral regs yesterday and found Mary was still at that address until 1950.
Alice Isabella Snelling's father named as James Snelling dec’d occ fishmonger on her 1917 m/c
1884 St Jude Bethnal Green
James Snelling 23 fishmonger f. William horsekeeper
married Mary RINGROSE 22 f. John bookmaker
Witnesses H & M Snelling
1891/1901 census living 54 Hereford Street
Mary SNELLINGS’s pob Spitafields born c1863
James Snelling 1900 Bethnal Green died age 39
joancrellen - Not sure if it would help find her death but what was your Mary Snelling maiden name
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Dawn
Thanks for the info. Have taken your advice and adjusted my profile accordingly.
Ladyhawk
As I posted earlier this Mary is not my Mary. I have already got the info. you have posted here but, so far, there doesn't seem to be an immediate link with the family I am researching. Thanks anyway.
I have all the necessary info. on my Mary except her whereabouts after 1907, and her place and year of death.
Joan
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Hi again , my Mary Snelling maiden name was Ringrose , born 1863 Spitalfields (Fashion Street).the Snelling name goes back to Croydon , Surrey around turn of the 19th Century
JM