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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: startt on Friday 13 July 12 20:28 BST (UK)
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Robert Kemp of St.Nicholas,Thanet was granted land at Shoat in 1534. This was possibly from Henry V111 during the dissolution of monasteries.
It is the location of the name Shoat which is a puzzle as the spelling may have changed.
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Is this a possibility?
Shoats Barn
Shelvin Farm
Canterbury
This is now the premises of UK Euroconect, Canterbury.....
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This is a good possibility, as late as in the will of Ebenezer Chapman Kemp of Calcutta, India in 1838 he leaves land near Cambridge. Ebenezer is in the main body of the 1900 family tree but Robert Kemp appears as a side issue without connecting to the main tree.
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I find it hard to believe that the name of someone who owned a barn would out-survive the name of a village. 'Shoat' is an ancient name for a young pig - is it possible that the land was granted 'at shoat' - for the purpose of breeding pigs ?
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Thank you Nick I like the idea and I am searching the National Archives to see if I can cross reference anything. I have so far not found found the will of Richard Kemp for 1549 as it says "will proved" on the tree. I just put on the whole information: Robert Kempe of St.Nicholas,Thanet. married Cicilie
Grant of land at Shoat 1534/35. Landowner at Birchington, Herne,Chislett,Reculver & Swancliffe by Whitstable. Will proved 1549. Issue at Chislet and Herne. The lands would appear to be all in the same area.
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In the book History and Antiquities of the Isle of Tenet (Thanet) in Kent, Rev. John Lewis, London, 1736 Shoat is described as being part of the parish of St. Nicholas. It is called in this book Shoart or Shourte or Shurt. I have attached the entry below (unfortunately it goes across two pages, the bottom of p32 and the top of p33). Your man Robert Kemp is mentioned
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Well thank you as that has definitely tracked down the grant of land and its location. I found another worthy the Rev.John Duncombe who in 1780 had written about the parishes of Reculver and Herne. I suppose loosely that a title of yeoman may be attributed to Robert Kempe.
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There is a place called Shuart Lane and Shuart farm in St. Nicholas - my ancestors lived at Shuart Cottages and worked as shepherds here.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nortonius/Sandbox
Takes you to a link about Shuart as being an area near Reculver
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The Wiki information is excellent and by far the best co lation. I think the farm and land with possible other dwellings is very reasonable. The transfer in legal terms I understand is still relevant today and allows the " parcel " to be given and then retrieved from a trusted friend, thereby avoiding any taxes and duties.
Still very relevant today when you read the newspapers. It was very interesting that you actually have connections to that place.Robert had a son John of St.Nicholas married 1576 and died 1581. His son was Henry Kempe of Buckland and Eastchurch Sheppy who died in 1610. The trail is cold after this date.
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SHOART is an estate about a mile north-east from the church, in the road leading to the sea, which was held of the manor of Downe Barton in socage, by fealty and rent. It was formerly the property of John Wigmore, from whom it came to William Bredhall, and thence again to John Cleymond, clerk, president of Corpus Christi college, in Oxford, who anno 25 Henry VIII. passed away and assured his right in it to Robt. Kempe, to hold in fee; which release was again warranted by him as president, and the scholars of that college jointly afterwards.
Robert Kemp, by his will in 1548, gave it to William and Thomas, his two younger sons, who joined in the sale of it, anno 9 Elizabeth, to John Fynch, who two years afterwards passed it away by sale to Sir Roger Manwood, chief baron of the exchequer; one of whose descendants alienated it to Daniel Harvey, esq. of Combe, from whose descendants, with Downe Barton, and other estates in this parish and neighbourhood, it was sold within memory to Eliab Breton, whose two sons, William and Eliab Breton, esqrs. are at this time possessed of it.
From: 'Parishes: St Nicholas (Thanet)', The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent: Volume 10 (1800), pp. 237-253. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=63621 Date accessed: 15 August 2012.