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Title: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: Megatill on Friday 13 July 12 15:22 BST (UK)
Hi all,

I read with pleasure the finds researchers make when searching the various Census Returns, but I often stumble when trying to search for my names in earlier years.

Most of my families originate in Leicestershire, with a high proportion located in the south eastern area around Burton Overy, "the Langtons" and "the Kibworths".

I would love to make contact with anyone with these ancestors PRIOR TO 1700 in Leicestershire:

 . Berridge
 . Groocock
 . Barsbey
 . Witsey
 . Hill
 . Tilley
 . Hardy
 . Measom
 . Bird
 . Arnold
 . Smally
 . Barrett
(plus any variation of spelling!)


Thank you, in advance!


Megan in Sydney
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: RRYFS on Wednesday 25 July 12 23:49 BST (UK)
Looking through Phillimores, there are Berridge marriages recorded in Belgrave prior to 1700. There are also some very early "Perridge" marriages recorded in Birstall. There is also at least one Berridge marriage in the 1690s in Syston.
Although not related, I have some interest as my late Aunt was a Berridge, and her brother, Archie was Lord Mayor of Leicester in the 60s or 70s.
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: niglor on Thursday 26 July 12 13:50 BST (UK)
Groocock is one of my families! I have loads on my tree! 3x gt grandmother was a Groocock.
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: niglor on Thursday 26 July 12 13:53 BST (UK)
Got back to 1400s with Groocock.
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: Megatill on Thursday 26 July 12 23:29 BST (UK)
Thank you to you both, RRYFS and niglor, for your responses!


RRYFS - is (are?) Phillimores available in Australia? I've not heard of them before. Are they online?


niglor - I would be interested in discussing... I, too, have a list from the FamilySearch/IGI database, but because no sources are quoted I am not too positive that the connections are correct.


Megan in Sydney
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: RRYFS on Friday 10 August 12 16:50 BST (UK)
Hi Megan

I'm not at the right computer to check, but I think Phillimores was produced in the late 19th or early 20th century as a transcription of parish registers. I bought Leicestershire as a download, because that covers virtually all my family on both sides. I find it very useful, though not sure I've found anyone "new" from it. I don't mind doing occasional look-ups if that would assist.

Sorry it took a long time to reply - I don't look in very often and the alerts I used to get seem to have stopped. PM me if I can help.

Richard
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: Suttonrog on Friday 17 August 12 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi Megan,

The Beridges go back a very long way near Kibworth. Look at St Wilfred's Church website http://www.stwilfs.freeserve.co.uk/past.htm#dig

There is a plaque in the church low down just to left of the altar which is to Will am Berridge 1565. They are are very well connected family and you trace them back to Kings and Queens.

Of course there are many other Berridges on the IGI that may not be connected to this branch.

Also search the National Archives for Berridges in Leicestershire. Lots of documents.

Rog
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: Megatill on Saturday 18 August 12 01:30 BST (UK)
Hi Rog - thank you for responding.

I have found these Berridges of St Wilfred's, unfortunately they do not seem (read "can not prove them") to be my direct line!!!

I think it is possible that John Berridge, Rector 1602-1632, was a 10th Great Uncle, making his father my 11th Great Grandfather, but unfortunately there is no further information (such as spouse) that could help me confirm the link to me.

Do you know how I can investigate a Rector's spouse?

Megan in Sydney
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: Suttonrog on Saturday 18 August 12 10:33 BST (UK)
Hi Megan,

First see the Victorian County Histories http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=22057

For more details you need to see the plaque, but you will find this quite difficul whre you are. I have a photo somewhere that has escaped my filing system but I wrote the text down and with the help of friends translated most of it. It goes:

H:S:E:
Hic sepultus est =  Here was buried

Iohannes Beridge s Theologie Professor Ecclesie Cathedralis B: Marie Lincoln Presentor ATQ HVIVS Ecclesie par annos 30 pastor Eivsdemq patronus QVI Londini Animam deo. Reridit 12 Die MAII ANNO. D.M. 1632 Etstis ( may be AE diphthong latis) suc sixagesimo

John Beridge teacher of theology, Precentor of the cathedral church of the Blessed Mary of Lincoln, and pastor of this church for 30 years, and its patron, who died in London the 12th day of May in the year of our lord 1632, in his 60th year


Coningem sortitus dorotheam filiam Fermandi Fielding Armigere a quam ei nati Suat 3 filie Maria Festino et Grodhilha omnes ante patre defunde et 10 filii Basilius Gulielmus Ferdinandus Georgius Basilius Michael Jacobus Ignathius Samuel Johannes quos omnes (Basulio Seniore et Michaele exceptis) una cu bxore superstites
reliquit

Married to Dorothy the daughter of ?Ferdinand Fielding esquire by whom
were born 3 daughters, Mary, Festina and Grodhilla [?] all died before
their father and 10 sons, Basil, Wulliam, Ferdinand, George, Basil,
Michael, James, Ignatius, Samuel, John who all (Basil senior and Michael
excepted) together with his wife he left still living.


Spero videre bona tm in terra viucutiu

I hope to see ?you ?well in the land -?-


Good hunting

Rog
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: Megatill on Saturday 18 August 12 10:50 BST (UK)
Hi Rog - your Latin is quite good  ;D

Thank you for providing the info that shows that these are NOT my direct line.

My 10th Great Grand Uncle John married Alice.
His father, my 11th Great Grandfather William married Johanna Towers.

So far, I have not found any Dorothys (Dorothies???) marrying into my Berridges, though of course that is not to say that I will have along another line.

However, small bites of the elephant, as they say!

Back to the research.

Thank you, again, Rog!

Happy hunting to you!


Megan in Sydney
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: Suttonrog on Saturday 18 August 12 20:57 BST (UK)
Thanks Megan,

I have other Berridges in Leicestershire.

Can you list some early dates and names?

Rog
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: Megatill on Sunday 19 August 12 01:21 BST (UK)
Thank you, Rog...

My latest Berridge is Jane (b1702) who married James Barrett (b1699) in 1722. Jane is my 7th Great Grandmother. Locale is Tur Langton.

Jane's father was Richard (b1677) m Eleanor Toone (b1682) in 1695. Richard is my 8GGF. Locale is Tur Langton.

Richard's father was Henry (b1623) m Ann Rhodlas (b1627) in 1653. I have tried tracing Ann via her very unique last name, but with no success. Henry is my 9GGF. Locale is Church Langton.

Henry's father was Richard (b1598) m c1622. Richard is my 10GGF. Locale is Tur Langton.

Richard's father was William (b1553) m Johanna Towers (b1566) in 1588. This is my 11th GGFather I mentioned earlier. He has a son John (b1589) brother to Richard. Locale is Kilworth / Claybrooke.

William's father was also William (b1523) m Elizabeth (c1527) about 1548. William is my 12GGF. Locale is Barkby.

William's father was John (bc1495) m Elizabeth (bc1499) about 1520. John was my 13GGF. Locale is Barkby.

John's father was also John (bc1461) m Elizabeth (bc1461-1465) about 1486. John was my 14GGF. Locale is Barkby.

Do any of these match your records?


Megan in Sydney
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: MattD30 on Tuesday 29 September 20 00:33 BST (UK)
Hi all

I have come across this board whilst looking for information on my ancestor Mary Berridge.

Mary married William Ashby at Medbourne in 1716 and they had four children who are:

William Ashby - born 1717 Medbourne [my ancestor]
Mary Ashby - born 1720 Medbourne
Richard Ashby - born 1720/21 Medbourne
Sarah Ashby - born 1723 Medbourne

It looks like William snr was born in Medbourne in 1701 [the son of Samuel and Elizabeth Ashby]

I believe Mary was born c1703 in Tur Langton and was the daughter of Richard born 1677. Many only trees and biographies of the Ashby family show Mary's year of birth as either 1703 or "about 1702".

If these dates are correct then William would have been about 15 when married and if she was born in 1703 then Mary would only be about 13.

Any help anyone can give on my Berridges would be very gratefully receieved.

Many thanks in advance

Matt
Title: Re: Families in Leicestershire before 1700
Post by: Annie65115 on Tuesday 29 September 20 17:43 BST (UK)
I can see the baptism of Mery Berridg (no -e) in Tur Langton, Jan 23 1703 (this would be 1704 using the current calendar), but what evidence do you have to suggest that this was your Mary?

I see that when she and William married, both were "of this prs" (ie Medbourne) - although I know that doesn't rule out a different place of birth.