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Hi,
I am hoping some one can help trace the birth/baptism of George Rogerson born abt 1833 in Old Swan.
From his marriage cert his fathers name is George. Any help much appreciated.
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Have you got him in an early census with his parents please
one marriage
St Peter Liverpool
14th of March 1826
George Rogerson,joiner of this parish
Sarah Mandell,spinster of this parish
witness to marriage
Jane Glover,Sam Thadwell and Sarah Rodgerson
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Please post in full his marriage details and that of his witnesses ,occupation,it does help to give as much information as possible ,then we do not chase the wrong man,
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Was George Catholic
St Anthony Liverpool,
George Rogerson,son of George Rogerson and Ellen Pope,
30th of June 1833
God parents
Thomas and Margaret Webster
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St Peter Liverpool
George Rogerson,
born 18th of Septemberr 1833
baptised 13Th of October 1833
father George ,mother Francis
god mother Lydia Newsom
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Thanks for the replys.
I can't find him in the earlier census as I don't know for sure when he was born. Is Old Swan a parish or was it in another parish ?
From his marriage cert he was married to Jane Ann Atkinson in 1854 at Prescot and was residing at Prescot and his father was a Blacksmith.
IF his parents were George & Francis it would fit as in the 1851 census he is listed as a Blacksmiths Labourer born in West Derby and his father listed as a Blacksmith.
In 1861 and 1871 he is listed as a Blacksmiith and an Engine Smith born in Old Swan.
What I would like to know is St Peter's, Old Swan & West Derby all the same place or same area.
Andy.
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Old Swan,I have heard many times ,but myknowledge is limited ,
I am searcher ,and nothing else I enjoy looking up people for others like yourself,
Garston is the brains when it comes to areas and Parishes in Liverpool
anyway I have the marriage now,so I will have another look around
St Mary The Virgin Presot
31st of December 1854
George Rogerson,bachelor,blacksmith of Prescot
Jane Ann Atkinson,spinster of Prescot
Grooms father George Rogerson,blacksmith
brides father Joseph Atkinson,glassmaker
Witness Henry Hards and Lydia Hards
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1841 census
Glasshouse Lane
West Derby
HO107/520/7
George Rogerson,aged 40,blacksmith
Francis Rogerson,35
John,15
Lydia,13
Frances,11
George,9,
Ann,7,
Samuel,4,
all born in County
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I`d just typed that up ;D
Lydia married Henry Hards at St Mary, Edge Hill in 1847 and it appears that her and her husband were witnesses to George’s wedding to Jane.
Click on the following link and zoom in to find exactly where Old Swan (West Derby) is.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/gazplace?GR=SJ397911,PLACE=OLD%20SWAN,CCC=LAN
Mo
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Francis Rogerson,---Joseph Worsnop,Prescot,1853
abode Eccleston
Jane Ann Rogerson,----William McCleary,St Thomas, Eccleston,1856
Samuel,the glass maker,-------Alice Johnson, St Mary Prescot,1859
abode Eccleston
James Rogerson,glassmaker,-----Mary Allen,St Mary Prescot 1868
all children of George the Blacksmith,
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Hi,
The family are all in Eccleston by 1851 transcribed as Roguson so the marriages all seem to fit nicely
Mo
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Iam not 100% sure about this marriage
George is from Windle as this is the birth place he gives on the 1851 census posted by Mosie,
St James Toxteth Park
George Rogerson,bachelor,Smith,of this parish
Frances Dain,Spinster of this parish
married by banns ,
7th of Feb 1822
witness to marriage
Elizabeth Edwards and James Catterall
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Old Swan is a district of Liverpool - West Derby is a district of Liverpool - but
West Derby is also the Register Office base ...and several districts of Liverpool come under West Derby ....Glasshouse Lane is Old Swan - but under the West Derby register office area...confusing I know , but Old Swan comes under West Derby for registration records
Edge Hill is also a Liverpool District which comes under West Derby ...
Toxteth Park is the other side of Liverpool ( South Liverpool )
St Anthony is I presume the one in Scotland Rd , which is toward Everton ...
so 1841 census in Glasshouse Lane is Old Swan...probably where George was born /baptised .......if you go up the road for about One AND A HALF miles you will find yourself at St Marys Edge Hill on the same continuous road...
so .....St Peter - city centre / St Mary ,Edge Hill is nearer but depends on the family church ??
ask away any questions - if I can help ,
allan
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1841 census
Glasshouse Lane
West Derby
HO107/520/7
George Rogerson,aged 40,blacksmith
Francis Rogerson,35
John,15
Lydia,13
Frances,11
George,9,
Ann,7,
Samuel,4,
all born in County
http://www.viewliverpool.co.uk/pubsandbars/the-glasshouse-info-37864.html
I may have made a mistake regarding Glasshouse Lane...I thought this pub was in Glasshouse Lane...but it`s in Mill Lane ,Old Swan .... I think we may be pointing towards Walton ( on the Hill ) ..looks like all those named are in Walton on the hill in 1841 census ... I wasn`t aware Walton on the Hill was under West Derby...apologies
allan
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St Peter 18th of May 1828
Lydia Rogerson
father George
mother Frances
born 9th of May
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I will have to check when they were built , but there are 4 St Peter in Liverpool
Church Street ,City centre
Seel St, City centre
Everton
Woolton ( Eleanor Rigby is buried there )..certain that is around 1860/70
back soon
allan
added...it has to be Church st - seel st was roman catholic - woolton 1887 - Everton st peter ?
sadly the St Peter ,Church st was demolished in 1919...and a Woolworths was built on it ....
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I am pretty certain the birth/bap I was looking for was reply #4 from Radcliff. I also gained a lot of other usefull information so a big thankyou to all who took the time and effort to reply.
Andy.