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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: snoons on Monday 09 July 12 06:14 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know anything about a Henry Grattan ROBINSON?
I have a letter written by him in 1935 to an Australian cousin. From the letter I can say he has a wife, Irene; a daughter, Florence; and a sister, Florence - sister Florence has a daughter, Eleanor - he visited his sister Florence in New York prior to writing the letter. He states in letter that he hasn't seen sister Florence for 35 years. His mother would most likely have been born in Fermanagh, Ireland, and would have had the surname WOODS (possibly Anne Jane, as I've found an 1870 marriage in Enniskillen, Fermanagh, of Anne Jane WOODS to a William ROBINSON, born in Prescott, Lancashire, occupation: Merchant; aged 22).
The letter Henry Grattan ROBINSON is written on "Canadian Pacific Railway Company" letterhead, whether this is of any significance I haven't yet worked out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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The Quinte Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society (which includes Hastings County, where Trenton is located) has a Henry Gratton Robinson in its name index.
According to their website, for a small fee they will send you what information they have.
http://www.snaphosting.ca/quinteogs/names_index_results.cfm?searchtxt=robinson+henry+gratton&B1=Search
Linda
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This is likely that same fellow in Ontario / his parents were indeed a William and Annie Jane ( no surname)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KSZQ-KPP
there is this birth... https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F25G-JS7
I suppose he could remarried to an Irene later in life...
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Thanks so much for the quick responses, LindaGW & J.J.
They are helpful leads, I'm looking into them and have already found Canadian Census for 1901 & 1911, and also some for his (1st ?) wife, known I see as Josephine...
Thanks again.
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Josephine Theresa Robinson died 21 Sep 1932 in Hastings County, Ontario. The registration indicates she was born 21 Oct 1872 in Morrisburg. The information about her parents matches the marriage registration with the addition of her mother's maiden surname which looks to be Armond. Her daughter, Miss M. Robinson was the informant.
The Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid indicates Josephine Robinson (nee Hummell) is buried in Mount Calvary Roman Catholic, Trenton. Mary Magdalene Robinson, wife of Michael Strometski, is also buried there along with her husband.
Jacquie
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Thanks Jacquie.
The plot thickens. I wonder if Henry Grattan ROBINSON and Josephine divorced...
I have been given a letter that Henry wrote mentions his wife Irene, (remembering it is dated 1935), and a daughter Florence! In the letter he writes..."as there is not many of my mother's people living now only Florence her daughter and myself"... it doesn't mention his daughter Mary Magdalen - most likely Miss M. ROBINSON, informant you mentioned.
From an entry in the Quinte Branch database I'm wondering if Mary Magdalen, daughter, married a STROMETSKI, I'll need to get the enquiry going for some of those entries I think next.
Your help is invaluable, thanks again, Trisha.
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Jacquie's previous reply references the burial of Mary Magdelene Robinson with husband Michael Strometski in the Mount Calvary Roman Catholic cemetery Trenton.
Debbie
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Hi,
Could this be your Mike Strometski in the Legion Last Post death announcements? If so, he was RCAF in WW2.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0orx/
RK
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I'm wondering how to interpret what you said:
I have been given a letter that Henry wrote mentions his wife Irene, (remembering it is dated 1935), and a daughter Florence! In the letter he writes..."as there is not many of my mother's people living now only Florence her daughter and myself"
Josephine died in 1932, so he remarried, to Irene, no?
When he says "Florence her daughter", isn't that Florence his mother's daughter, i.e. his sister?
So I don't think he had a daughter Florence -- unless there is something else in the letter, that you didn't quote, that indicates this? If there is, could it be that Irene was a widow when they married, and she had a daughter Florence?
If he was referring to Florence his sister, he didn't mention his own daughter Mary because he was talking about his mother's "people", her own immediate family (i.e. her own siblings and parents were deceased).
If what you are looking for is living family, there are only two Strometski listings in the Canadian phone book, both in Vancouver
http://www.canada.411
If you search for the surname at www.google.ca and then select "pages from Canada" on the right, you can narrow the results. There are a few other names, one of which is (a younger) Mike.
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Hi,
I, too, have a copy of the 8/8/1935 letter, in Australia.
It looks like there could be a connection to my wife's family from Lisnaskea.
If Henry Grattan Robinson's parents are William Robinson and Anne Jane Woods, as per the chat, are Anne Jane's parents John Woods and Mary Armstrong?
John and Mary had a daughter Mary 1837-1914. She married Arthur Forster 1835-1882.
Mary and Arthur were both born in Lisnaskea and died in Victoria, Australia.
Mary and Arthur had 8 children including one that they named Ann Jane, maybe not a coincidence.
John and Mary, Mary and Arthur are my wife's ancestors.
How did the research go? It would be good to make the connection.
Bruce.
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Looks as though notification was turned off for this post, so I have notified snoons by p.m. that there is a reply. If you make one more post, either on this thread or starting a new one, you'll be able to use the private message system as well! All the best & welcome to Rootschat...ENJOY!!!
adding: Find-a-Grave has him as: *Martin Henry Grattan Robinson
b. May 2, 1872 Preston, Lancashire, Eng. d. Mar 8 1949 (aged 76)
Trenton, Hastings County, Ontario, Canada
Bur: Mount Calvary Catholic Cemetery Trenton, Ontario, Canada
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/264096437/martin-henry_grattan-robinson
*burial uses his registered birth name - mother as Wood-perhaps he sent for his birth information?
Josephine:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/225951542/josephine-theresa-robinson
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This answers the writing paper question (CPR)! says immigrated 1886...
More info/images for you Bruce:
1931 census he is a Telegrapher for Canadian Pacific Railway
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=census&id=80201619&lang=eng&ecopy=e011648331
1901 census Addington - says born May 2 1872 ( Telegraph operator)
...dau. Magdeline b. March 20, 1897
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=36676386&ecopy=z000048613
1921 goes by Grattan
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=63933788&ecopy=e002933703
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Florence Eugenia Robinson- mother also as Wood- Birth Reg 1874 Preston, Lancs
There's a marriage 1902 Leicestershire to an Ernest Alfred Kershaw
- FamSearch has the marriage stating father as "Jonas", so name may just be a coincidence
a son of this couple dies in either England or U.S. so don't go down those tree rabbitholes.
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Hi Bruce,
I have now seen your post, I haven't been on this site for quite a while. I'm interested in learning more about your connection to ROBINSON, WOODS and FORSTER connections. Can you PM me, and we can go from there.
Thanks.
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Hi J.J.,
I don't think the 1902 marriage of Florence ROBINSON to Ernest Alfred KERSHAW is correct, unfortunately. On the 1911 Eng Census it states she was born in Derbyshire - I have birth and baptism records for her in Lancashire, father is listed as Draper. I haven't located her after the baptism of a brother in 1876, and then mentioned in letter in 1935.
Thanks anyway. I'll get back on the research for this branch.
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You surely had a great amount of help from the Canadian researchers who did a lot of digging back then on your behalf... cosmac, LindaGW, JaneyCanuck, Jacquie in Canada and I must apologize to them for any recent duplication on my part.
Have looked for Martin/Henry in 1891 but can't find him. Am also wondering, if he did arrive in 1887, he would have been just a young teen...Not finding them in 1881 makes me wonder if they were missed, or if a parent may have passed away & the family split up, either with relatives or institutions.
- also no sign of known siblings Annie Harriet Martha Robinson 1875 or Charles Wood Robinson 1876
All living (15) Cross St. when baptised St Mary, Preston, Lancs.
*Adding *found these in 1891!!! If site under construction - check again later ::)
1891 census enum. april 20th Ontario Cardwell Sub-district Albion
Henry Robinson, 1871 Eng. domestic/farm helper ( made me think - homechild/farmBoy
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=25147729&ecopy=30953_148131-00795
However - Looking at forename as Grattan - there are TWO
Speculation:
Could these both be entries for same person??? 3 days apart? ...
1891 census Ontario/Grenville South/Cardinal ( scroll to top of page 16)
taken April 13th - lodging at a hotel
says b. Eng. ( although says Rel: C.O.E) pretty sure it says Tel. operator (telegraph?)
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=census&id=25408097&lang=eng&ecopy=30953_148139-00402
taken April 13th - 1891 census /Ontario/Cornwall and Stormont/Osnabruck
- listed as a nephew of widower Francis Anderson whose family are all from Ireland
both of whom work for the Railway... Grattan 's entry says b. Ireland
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=census&id=25200434&lang=eng&ecopy=30953_148133-00167
Will be hard to determine which is the correct entry...Wonder if this fellow might know who to contact for some Rail/telegraph history as he's obviously a fan. http://www.trainweb.org/telegraphgene/tgontario.htm