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Could anyone help in finding the parents of Thomas Powell born in St Mary Pembroke in 1700. I think he married Ann Prichard of Nash.. and then had 3 children,William, Elizabeth and Alice. Any other info on the family would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks
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There are no Parish Registers for the town of Pembroke prior to 1711, I have transcribed all parish registers for the town from 1711 to the 1950’s.
From 1711 to 1748 there is only one register called “The Register of the Three Parishes” which covers Pembroke St Mary, Pembroke St Michael and Monkton St Nicholas, from 1748 onwards all three have their own parish registers.
The following is what I note for your interest from the Reg. of the 3 parishes
There is no mention circa 1718 onwards of a mrge of a Thomas Powell.
There is no mention in this register of any baptism of a William, Elizabeth or Alice Powell.
The following Powells had children baptised at one of the 3 parishes
Henry & Anne Powel, Richard & Elizabeth Powel, John & Mary Powel, Morgan and Grace Powal.
Looking at my register transcriptions I can find nothing which relates to the Powell family of your interest.
Turning to wills I have transcribed every name, status, place and relationship in every will for Pembroke form 1554 to 1700 and note the surname Powell in the following wills ;
1602/059 Morgan Powell
1613/079 Morgan Swynowe
1617/111 George Powell
1674/012 Richard Watkin
1680/056 John Powell
1684/036 Rice Powell
1694.007 Lewis Moore
All the above can be viewed for free at ;
http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en
You may find further assistance at;
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Pemtax1.html
From my database of Burgess of Pembroke Borough 1678 to 2008 I note the following Thomas Powell’s in the early part listed by year
Thomas Powell Corvisor ~ 1692 – 1696
Thomas Powell ~ 1699 (Line drawn through name normally indicated ‘Mort’)
Thomas Powell ~ 1699
Thomas Powell Gent ~ 1705 – 1711
Thomas Powell Corvicer ~ 1711 ~ 1734 (Mort)
Thomas Powell Gent ~ 1734 –
Thomas Powell Esqr 1736 – 1740
Circa 1760 at least 13 pages are missing having been eaten by rats.
Do not think that a) it was an honor to be a Burgess, many where fined trying to get out of being registered, b) one had to be of a certain status, anyone from unemployed to trade to Mayor was made burgess, c) only names and years and sometimes trades are shown, therefore it can be difficult to prove continuity.
I believe that the Powells of Pembroke where quite involved in the siege during the civil war.
From my transcription of the Borough minutes from 1678 on the earlist reference I find is
in 1699 ;
That Thomas Powell shall personally appear at the next quarter court holden for the Town and liberties of Pembr and shall not depart there without lyecnse of the said Court and in the meantime shall keepe his majers peace and especially against William Rogers.
This normally shows that the person “appearing” has had some sort of public argument with the person “especially against” and the next Quarter Court will decide the outcome.
My Borough Acc’s do not begin until 1770, therefore will not be usefull to you.
Thomas Powell appears in my listing of Jurors of Pembroke Borough for 1698, 1701 and 1722.
From my listings no Powell held the position of Baliff or Sergeant 1688 to 1726.
From my listing of Constables of Pembroke Borough 1678 to 1763 I note that Thomas Powell was constable of West Ward in 1692 and then later in the same year a Thomas Powell was constable of East Ward.
Hope this is of some interest to your research.
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Orielbenfro
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Thank you so much for all this info which I will need time to digest! Looking one generation later, I think his son William was born c 1717 in Portclew and married Elizabeth Martin from Stackpole. Could this help in finding Thomas and previous generations? Also, I think Thomas was a yeoman
Many thanks
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his son William was born c 1717 in Portclew and married Elizabeth Martin from Stackpole.
Portclew is Lamphey. I have transcribed all names, status, placenames, relationships etc from all and every will probated in the parish of Lamphey for 1554 to 1858. From this I note for your interest the surname Powell is in the parish from the mid 18th onwards, it might be a bit late but a Thomas Powell of Nash is mentioned in the will of William Powell of Lamphey 1772/017 will made 20 Nov 1771 and probated 12 May 1772. Portclew is mentioned in Powell wills of 1800 to 1826. All can be viewed at that Wills website at the NLoW.
I have transcribed in full all the Stackpole registers from their beginning in 1724 upto the 1950’s, there is no reference to the mrge of a William Powell to Elizabeth Martin at Stackpole.
You are probably aware there is an abbreviated register listed at ;
http://www.revjones.fsnet.co.uk/stackgrpreg/register.htm
My work consists of slightly less errors, but where possible far more information.
You will note there a a single entry in Stackpole baptism to a daughter name is lost to Thomas & Jone Martin baptized in 1729, but I have currently found nothing further in the area.
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Orielbenfro
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Thanks again for more information. The Thomas mentioned above was one of William's sons. William was my great,great,great grandfather.However, I'm having problems accessing the information on the wills.Do you have to subscribe before seeing them?
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I'm having problems accessing the information on the wills.Do you have to subscribe before seeing them?
No you do not have to subscribe, just in case I gave wrong link try the following again ;
http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en
If you are still having trouble enter the NLoW website at its home page and go from there. Still having problems send me an email address via PM and I can at least send you the will extracts (in Excel format), not perfect, but at least you will see all names relationships etc.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Thanks so much...I can access it now...not sure I know how to use it consistently!
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Could anyone help in finding the parents of Thomas Powell born in St Mary Pembroke in 1700. I think he married Ann Prichard of Nash.. and then had 3 children,William, Elizabeth and Alice. Any other info on the family would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks
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Just resumed researching my Powell family. I found that thomas was born in 1685 and married Ann prichard born c 1700...they had three children already mentioned and after the death of both parents the children were cared for by a John Pritchard. I'm trying to find whether he was Anne's brother or father..can you help please? Also found that on his death c1717 Thomas Powell (yeoman) owed rent to Richard Cuny. Could Thomas have been a tenant farmer on Richard Cuny's land?I'm still looking for the parents of thomas with little success.
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There are no parish records for Pembroke St Mary pre 1748. From 1711 to 1748 there is a document called "The Register of the 3 Parishes". this register covers St Mary, St Michael and Monkton St Nicholas, however it is very rare for an entry to have an ident to parish.
I have transcribed "The Register of the 3 Parishes" 1711 to 1748, St Mary 1748 to the 1930's, St Michael 1748 to the 1930's, and Monkton St Nicholas 1748 to the 1930's. I have also written 3 e-books on the Headstones and Memorials of the parishes.
From my research I note the following ;
There is no reference to a burial of a Thomas Powell circa 1717.
There is no reference to any baptism of children to a Thomas Powell post 1711.
The Powell family of this time held positions of importance and wealth in the town, they also had property in London. One of the most interesting is Doctor John Powell (Doctor of Physick) he had a son John baptised 03 Jan 1729/30 but the parish is unidentified, but quite lightly St Michael.
There are only 2 early mrge's Richard Powel 1714 and Griffith Powell 1730
A Thomas Powell was buried at St Mary on the 29 Dec 1731. He was buried under (u/r) by ye back (u/r)
A Richard Powell was buried in 1717 (day and month u/r) parish is unidentified. Richard was buried in the alley below William Jenkins seat.
From my research into the Burgess of Pembroke Borough 1678 to 2013 I note that among a number of Powells there is a Thomas Powell registered yearly ;
Thomas Powell Corvisor, 1691 ~ 1699
(In 1699 Thomas Powell has a line drawn through his name, this normally indicates "Mort")
Thomas Powell Gentleman 1704 ~ 1711
Thomas Powell Corvisor 1711 ~ 1734
(In 1734 Thomas is noted as "Mort")
Thomas Powell Esquire 1736 ~ 1761
Unfortunately the records of Burgess hold no more information than is shown here.
From my research into the Minutes of Common Council of the Borough of Pembroke St Mary I note ;
1699 ; That Thomas Powell shall personally appear at the next quarter court holden for the Town and liberties of Pembr and shall not depart there without lyecnse of the said Court and in the meantime shall keepe his majers peace and espcatially against William Rogers
In a list of lands held by Common Council on the 09 Jan 1748 it is noted that John Powell Victualler for ye Watch House adjoining the house he lives in at 3s 4d yearly lease
A Thomas Powell was noted as a Juror in 1698, 1701 and 1722
From my research into early Mayors I note
1742 Richard Cuny Arthur Owen and Matthew Lord (Arthur Owen appointed)
1743 Richard Cuny Arthur Owen and Thomas Barlow (Richard Cuny appointed)
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Owen Ap Benfro
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Owen,
from your transcript of "The 3 parishes", do you have anything for
Elizabeth Llewhelling ( Narberth ) m William James 1807 ( Moncton sic - Monkton?)
I have only just found william, but fairly sure he's my 4xG grandfather
thanks in advance, Geoff Williams
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Owen,
from your transcript of "The 3 parishes", do you have anything for
Elizabeth Llewhelling ( Narberth ) m William James 1807 ( Moncton sic - Monkton?)
I have only just found william, but fairly sure he's my 4xG grandfather
thanks in advance, Geoff Williams
I trust the following is of interest ;
From my transcript of the parish registers of Marriages of Pembroke St Mary 1711 to 1950's I note the following
01st Nov 1807 William James of Pembroke St Mary married Mary James of Pembroke St Mary by banns in front of Nichs Roch. Both made their mark in the presence of James Thomas and George Chapman.
From my transcript of the Baptism Register of Pembroke St Mary 1711 to 1950's I note
29 Apr 1810 Mary to Wiliam & Mary James baptised
06 Mar 1808 Thomas to William & Mary James baptised
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Owen Ap Benfro
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Interested in one Powell family of Pembrokeshire, that is, a Timothy Powell who died 1814 Bastleford, near Rosemarket.
Timothy and his wife Martha Rees had at least 9 children. Martha died in 1822 and named her brothers as David Rees of Westfields and John Rees of Westbury Hill, near Rosemarket and a grand child Sarah Gudridge.
One daughter was also confirmed as Mary, Mrs. Griffith Evans.
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what info are you looking for with regards to the Powell family?
Martha buried in Rosemarket 21 May 1822 aged 70 of St Martin's Haverfordwest
Timothy Powell of Rosemarket married Martha Rees of Freystrop 16 Sept(?) 1770
Baptisms in Rosemarket to Timothy & Martha
Anne 1 Dec 1772
Mary 20 Oct 1775
Elizabeth 8 April 1780
John 20 April 1786
Frances 15 July 1788
Hannah 8 May 1794
Mary Powell of Rosemarket married Griffith Evans of St Martin's 24 Jan 1799.
Baptisms in St Martin's to Griffith & Mary
Mary 17 Nov 1799
William 3 May 1801
Elizabeth 7 Oct 1804
James 21 May 1809
in Haverfordwest Tabernacle
Martha 11 July 1814
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Thank Osprey (again).
New line of Rees family just uncovered, that is, Martha Rees the wife of Timothy Powell. Her Will of 1822 recorded her brothers as being my ancestor David Rees of Westfields and John Rees of Westbury Hill, and a yet to discover grand daughter Sarah Gutridge.
David Rees at Westfields in 1822 is a mystery to us; therefore, we have just prepared land tax records from 1788 to help uncover this mystery. This David Rees was at Castle Inn, Haverfordwest until Jul 1805 (The Cambrian); Derby farm St. Issels Haroldstone; 1817 Woodbine Cottage, so our first thought was the Westfields farm adjacent Woodbine Cottage and Derby farms in 1822, before moving on to Dredgman's Hill 1831 (Will); then back to Derby farm and Green Hill farms by his death in 1837. All farms very close to each other.
There were two other Westfields farms , west and east of Rosemarket, and two John Rees' occupied them. It now throws into the equation that maybe David Rees' uncle was also called John Rees, and he may have leased West Hill; Westfields on the east side of Rosemarket.
Brother John Rees also connected to both Westfields near Rosemarket.
Thank you for the Powell information. I will need to thoroughly research Mary Powell's husband Griffith Evans. In 1831 Will, David Rees' sister also called Sarah Evans. I can't find her death bp. 1757 Freystrop and expected death between Will's of 1831 (beneficiary) and 1835 (not mentioned).
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is this the death notice for David Rees?
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3329025/3329028/20/
David Rees 79 buried 28 April 1837 St Martin's Haverfordwest, address noted as Merlin's Hill, late of Greenhill
Possible burial?
Sarah Evans 83 in Camrose 16 April 1834 abode noted as Keeston
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Thank you for the Sarah Evans reference. I will look further into the Evans people in that area.
Yes, that is my David Rees. He must have taken over the lease of Greenhill as well in 1835, as per another of his Wills.
I did find a possible Powell grandson at Merlin's Hill. Maybe David Rees went there to die or it was a nursing home near his home or private hospital at Green Hill.
His 1837 Will showed one second son Lt. William Lee Rees inherited Derby farm leases. Also had a farm called Trenewydd, County of Carmanthan that also had to be sold and profits divided.
Lucky us,, this guy also had another Will version in 1797, so I have four documents giving plenty of information.