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Title: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Thursday 23 February 12 14:04 GMT (UK)
i am try to find a william robert scarisbrick born 11 july 1890 in montevideo in uruguay died in 19 jan 1955 at the age of 64 he married carloine morris who was born about 1892 or 1893 marriage in nov or dec of 1913 plus try find his mum and dad who they was called if any one got anything on him could plz let me know thank u very much my email is (*)

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Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 23 February 12 14:15 GMT (UK)
"William Robert Scarisbrick, we believe he was born in Uruguay in 1890. I am currently trying to track down a birth certificate for him however it is proving to be hard work! William Robert married Caroline Morris in 1913 in Liverpool." 

(a posting from GR)

So you should start by getting the 1913 marriage cert.
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 23 February 12 14:30 GMT (UK)
Ancestry has his WW1 military papers in its British Army WW1 Pension Records database. Ignore the bit about him being born in South Leith - it's a mistranscription of Santa Ana, Montevideo
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Thursday 23 February 12 16:06 GMT (UK)
my brother has told  me he died in 1968 but no date or month what has but he got the right date for his birth 
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 23 February 12 16:10 GMT (UK)
the 1913 marriage will (probably) give a father.
Even a witness name will help if they turn out to be family.

Get the marriage to progress it further back.
It seems it wasn't Liverpool, or even lancashire, but cheshire.

 Birkenhead    8a   1017   

church    was Seacombe, St Paul
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 23 February 12 16:41 GMT (UK)
my brother has told  me he died in 1968 but no date or month what has but he got the right date for his birth 

I can't see his death but I do have Caroline's.

IN Birkenhead Cheshire in Dec 1942 aged 48.

Ref 8a volume 584.

Carol
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Thursday 23 February 12 17:42 GMT (UK)
carol8353 u said u got caroline death in birkenhead cheshire in dec 1942 aged 48 but no date thank u there u not found william robert scarisbrick just found out if right he was working  he did was waterworks that what found out in the cenus 1911 he stayed with his cousin jane scarisbrick at 4 hayplace seacombe chester he might of died in seacombe but that i would like to know if there is any chance of
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 23 February 12 18:29 GMT (UK)
Scarisbrick,

I suggest you purchase Caroline's death cert for £9-25 from the GRO- that will give you more clues as to whether William was still alive at that time,and confirm the exact date that she died.

So that's a death cert and a marriage cert you need to buy now  ;D

Do you know what children they had?

You may find it really difficult to get his birth cert as he was born in Uruguay.

Carol
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 23 February 12 19:43 GMT (UK)
Casting the net a bit wider...

Jane Scarisbrick's husband Andrew Wells was a retired policeman.

The 1891 census for Liverpool has another retired policeman, Robert Scarisbrick, 63, born Formby with 5 children born in Montevideo.  There must be a connection !
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Thursday 23 February 12 22:57 GMT (UK)
i am wondering robert scarisbrick is his uncle because like i said jane scarisbrick  was one of his cousin jane got one brother called joseph if  iam right and born about 1859 sister called elizabeth m scarisbrick 1869 jane 1866 andrew wells i think he was from dunfies scotlandrobert scarisbrick married isabella scarisbrick (nee massey)  but not sure about the 5 children born in montevideo is there any chance of what there names r plz thank you very much
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 24 February 12 07:03 GMT (UK)
Looking again at that 1891 census, the children from Montevideo are nephew and nieces:

60 Blandford Street, Liverpool

Robert Scarisbrick   63 retired police constable and provision dealer  Lancs Formby
Isabella Scarisbrick   56 wife Liverpool
Jane Scarisbrick   25 daur Provision dealer's assistant Liverpool
Elizabeth M Scarisbrick   22  Asst School mistress Liverpool
John J Scarisbrick   13 nephew Montevideo
Carlotta C Scarisbrick   11 niece Montevideo
Amelia Scarisbrick   9  niece Montevideo
Elizabeth J Scarisbrick   7 niece Montevideo
Mary S Scarisbrick   5  niece Montevideo
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 24 February 12 07:08 GMT (UK)
See also these burials at the British Cemetery in Montevideo:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=60908726

William Scarisbrick 1842-1899
Amelia Jane Bolton (or Polton) Scarisbrick (wife) 1862-1899
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 24 February 12 07:13 GMT (UK)
William R Scarisbrick arrived UK from New Zealand in January 1955. On M V Rangitata from Auckland

Date of birth 11 July 1890

Labourer

Address c/o Adelphi Hotel Liverpool

Last permanent residence NZ

Future permanent residence UK
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Friday 24 February 12 13:56 GMT (UK)
i am wondering if these r his brothers and sister to william robert scaribrick
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Friday 24 February 12 14:02 GMT (UK)
c jane she had brother called joseph scarisbrick a baker born 1859
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Friday 16 March 12 16:45 GMT (UK)
is there any cenus in uruguay from 1890 to 1913 if there is any chance can i have look to c i can find william robert scarisbrick thank u very much
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: Camiller on Saturday 24 March 12 19:54 GMT (UK)
Hi I am the Grand daughter of Elizabeth Jane Scarisbrick, one of the children that came from Montevideo Uruguay
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Saturday 07 April 12 11:44 BST (UK)
do u know who elizabeth jane scarisbrick mother or father name was because i reckon my grand dad mighty have cane from the same famliy
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: Camiller on Sunday 15 April 12 13:02 BST (UK)
Elizabeth Jane Scarisbrick `s  parents are William and Amelia Scarisbrick, they are buried in the british cemertry in Montevideo
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: Camiller on Sunday 15 April 12 13:07 BST (UK)
Not sure if Amelia was born in Montevideo or in the UK does any body have any idear. William was from Lancashire Uk
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Sunday 15 April 12 17:10 BST (UK)
ok so robert scarisbrick and isabella scarisbrick r anutie and uncle to them  but my big question is william robert scarisbrick is he a brother and sisters to those we have spoken about that a big question because my brother says he stay with a cousion jane scarisbrick when he came over in 1911
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: Camiller on Monday 16 April 12 10:36 BST (UK)
Have you tried to get his birth certificate, that would have his parents names on.
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Monday 16 April 12 12:18 BST (UK)
on his marragie paper it his father deceased with no name just his father in law name
his dad was a water worker formen  that all it says
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: fastfusion on Friday 04 May 12 23:28 BST (UK)
You asked for the following in chatroom ,"william scarisbrick married carlota c guering  but there no dates at all just names"

"Uruguay, Civil Registration Records," Guillermo Scarisbrisck in entry for Guillermo Roberto Scarisbrisck, 1890
Guillermo Roberto Scarisbrisck
b 17 jul 1890 Departamento Montevideo, Uruguay
Parents Guillermo Scarisbrisck & Carlota Cristina Guering
Section:Registro Civil, Sección 2
Certificate Number:267 p 134

Guillermo Scarisbrisck
Uruguay, Civil Registration Records
 spouse:Carlota Cristina Guering
child:Guillermo Roberto Scarisbrisck
 
Emilia Scarisbrick
Uruguay, Civil Registration Records
birth:04 Mar 1882
Departamento Montevideo,​ Uruguay
parents:Guillermo Scarisbrick,​ Carlota Gerrin

Emilia Scarisbrick b 4 mar 1882
Departamento Montevideo, Uruguay
Parents - Guillermo Scarisbrick & Carlota Gerrin
Section:Registro Civil, Sección 9
Certificate Number:18 p 9



Maria Scarisbrick Noris
Uruguay, Civil Registration Records
birth:10 Mar 1886
Departamento Montevideo,​ Uruguay
parents:Guillermo Scarisbrick Noris,​ Carlota Olore Geren

Maria Scarisbrick Noris
b 10 mar 1886 Departamento Montevideo, Uruguay
parents Guillermo Scarisbrick Noris & Carlota Olore Geren
Section:Registro Civil, Sección 9
Certificate Number:27 p 14


Guillermo Roberto Scarisbrisck
Uruguay, Civil Registration Records
birth:17 Jul 1890
Departamento Montevideo,​ Uruguay
parents:Guillermo Scarisbrisck,​ Carlota Cristina Guering
 
Guillermo Roberto Scarisbrisck
b 17 jul 1890 Departamento Montevideo, Uruguay
Parents Guillermo Scarisbrisck & Carlota Cristina Guering
Section:Registro Civil, Sección 2
Certificate Number:267 p 134

fastfusion
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: Camiller on Saturday 05 May 12 11:02 BST (UK)
Did they have any more children.  what relation are they to William and Amelia that are buried in the british cemetery in Montevideo.
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: Camiller on Tuesday 08 May 12 08:37 BST (UK)
Is it the same William and has he been married twice.
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: scarisbrick on Tuesday 08 May 12 09:07 BST (UK)
i am nearly crack it for us we have 2 names goes with william scarisbrick just look into it when i get bk from aberdeen so if u can hang on for that i will send u a e mail to u with every thing on it
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: Camiller on Saturday 12 May 12 10:05 BST (UK)
Why did it not mention the other children ie. Elizabeth, John and Carlotta
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: fastfusion on Saturday 12 May 12 14:51 BST (UK)
 Sarah Leven Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1839 Registration district: Linton Inferred County: Cambridgeshire Volume
Number: 14 Page Number: 126A
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: Camiller on Saturday 12 May 12 16:07 BST (UK)
Who is Sarah Leven
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: Camiller on Monday 21 May 12 21:35 BST (UK)
Does any body have anything on Carlotta Scarisbrick, Williams first wife, did she die or did they divorce.
Title: me to u and u to me
Post by: scarisbrick on Friday 06 July 12 13:40 BST (UK)
hi i was wondering if any one got friends  uruguay doing a family trees  or could help find people over there plz thank u all the best to u and your faimly cheers


Moderator Comment: topics merged, as they are about the same family
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: MargP on Friday 06 July 12 13:46 BST (UK)
Hi

If you would like to post the detail on all you have got, we will see if we can help with your puzzle

Margp
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: scarisbrick on Friday 06 July 12 21:31 BST (UK)
try to find his mother and father was and any of his brothers and sisters he has thank u for help me it means lot and mean lot if anyone can tell me thank u
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: PrueM on Friday 06 July 12 23:44 BST (UK)
Scarisbrick, in order to help you we need to have some details of names, dates and places  :)

Please remember though that you must not give the names of the living, or possibly living.
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: scarisbrick on Saturday 07 July 12 12:51 BST (UK)
hi looking for william robert scarisbrick born 1890 in montevideo uruguay came over in 1911 marrried in 1913 to caroline morris had 6 kids i have found them but i want to know his mother and frather was i know he stay with cousin jane wells and andrew wells in 1911 cenus jane wells madien name was scarisbrick andrew wells was copper and a potatoes sell
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 07 July 12 13:01 BST (UK)
To help others who may be wanting to help,  there is this thread that might have some info:

http : //www . rootschat . com/forum/index.php/topic,583461.0.html
Moderator Comment: topics merged
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: 1pds on Saturday 07 July 12 13:09 BST (UK)
Here's a start:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VR4H-DWG

Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: 1pds on Saturday 07 July 12 13:11 BST (UK)
William Robert Scarisbrick's father was Guillermo Scarisbrisck and mother was Carlota Cristina Guering.
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: 1pds on Saturday 07 July 12 13:14 BST (UK)
Looks like she's on the 1891 Census living in Liverpool:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/7SQ2-16Z
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 07 July 12 13:16 BST (UK)
Hi 1pds

This info is  on the other thread that I've linked to.


To help others who may be wanting to help,  there is this thread that might have some info:

http : //www . rootschat . com/forum/index.php/topic,583461.0.html
Moderator Comment: topics merged
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: 1pds on Saturday 07 July 12 13:19 BST (UK)
Thanks, I see it now...
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: scarisbrick on Saturday 07 July 12 13:57 BST (UK)
guillermo means william in uruguay  i check that out
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: scarisbrick on Saturday 07 July 12 14:09 BST (UK)
how do i go try get a birth paper from uruguay to get the real copy
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: MargP on Saturday 07 July 12 18:01 BST (UK)
Hi

Sister's for William

Emilia Scarisbrick 4 March 1882
Montevidio Uraguay
Father Guillermo
Mother Carlota Gerrin

Maria Scarisbrick Noris
10 March 1886
Same place as above
Father Guillermo Scarisbrick Noris
Mother Carlota Olore Geren

I believe that you can order these records from your nearest Later Day Saints Church within you area

Margp
Title: Re: me to u and u to me
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 07 July 12 18:03 BST (UK)
Hi MargP

I think those were found :

http : //www . rootschat . com/forum/index.php/topic,583461.msg4462645.html#msg4462645
Moderator Comment: topics merged
Title: Re: scarisbrick family
Post by: fastfusion on Wednesday 19 December 12 00:38 GMT (UK)
to get the paper copies of anything to do with Uruaguay    one has to write to the British Consultate/ Foreign Office  or the RO      and pay for extracts.

If u find the Foreigh Office in SOuth America    and do a "historical research request "    and explain that the tyranny of distance means u cant view the records personally    maybe  some one will look them up in their time off from representative work.

fast fusion

ps   pretty well  what i gave u in the original post is all u will see unless u get a copy of the microfilms through the LDS centres  which a fee for each film will be charged.   If the original has anymore details   then your luc will be in good stead  without annoying the foreigh office.