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Hello, I'm currently trying to research information on my Grandmother's side, we don't have much information to go by, all I have is my grandmother was Margaret Turner (Pullen) (born 5/7/1942?- died 4/1/2004), We're trying to find out more about her family, the only names I know are her father Thomas Warrick Pullen (died around 1989 in Lismore, New South Wales, Australia) and her mother Jesse Charlotte Pullen (born Goodwin) Also deceased roughly around 1975-76. We don't know anything more on that side of the family, and there has always been alot of unanswered questions regarding that side. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
NB: I'm uncertain but through some research It's possible Thomas Warrick Pullen has parents names William John Pullen and Mary Elizabeth Pullen (born Mcgrath). Thank You :)
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Hi The-Game
The Ryerson Index (http://www.ryersonindex.org/) has these entries:
Thomas Warwick Pullen died October 1989, aged 81, formerly of Lennox Head, Stanthorpe & Lismore
Jessie Charlotte Pullen died August 1972, late of Stanthorpe
Funeral notices were in THE NORTHERN STAR, Lismore
Dazey
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Hi, Thomas Warwick Pullen's Parents were William W Pullen and Mary Swan . Thomas was born 1908 and registered at Taree NSW. The ref # for his birth is 8860/1908.
William W Pullen and Mary Swan were married in 1897 and this was also registered at Taree number is 4193/1897.
He had a number of siblings, William J 1897, Reginald A 1899, Margaret H 1901, Charlotte I 1903, Lillian D 1905 all registered at Taree and Ethel M 1911 born at Belligen Also Eva B Pullen born at Belligen but died 1913.
There could be further siblings born after 1911 the cutoff for NSW BDM's.
Neil
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Hi again, William W Pullen was born 1875 and his birth registered at Manning River (Taree) his parents were John Kingsworth Pullen and Charlotte ?.
William W Pullen had eight other siblings all born same area.
Charles K 1859 Wingham died 1918 at Macksville
Then at Taree Sarah 1861, George 1863-1942 at Port Macquarie, Ida 1865, Erastus 1868-1937 Hornsby, Blanch Amy 1870-1948 Hornsby, Augusta 1872-1957 Hornsby, and Ethel 1879.
There is also a death recorded for a Esther A Pullen in 1878 at Gunnedah with same parents it is unknown at the moment where she was born. possibly not connected?
I cannot find John and Charlotte's marriage at the moment.
Neil
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Death notice for Charlotte Pullen in 1915 relict of late John Kingsworth Pullen
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15607700
regards,
Ros
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Death notice for John Kingsworth Pullen in 1906. He was the 3rd son of Jesse Pullen of Tasmania
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article28155906
regards,
Ros
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John Kingworth Pullen married Charlotte Whenham in 1857 in Maitland reg# 2108/1857
Can search here free www.bdm.nsw.gov.au for NSW birthe. deaths, marriages
regards,
Ros
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There could be further siblings born after 1911 the cutoff for NSW BDM's.
Neil
One more
PULLEN, Bernice. Parents William W & Mary
1915. Belligen. 21331
Sue
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Gee Ros, I was thinking that they might be related to the Pullen family of Maitland a very old family there. I wonder if this a connection.
Neil
(MODIFIED) were you able to see when Eva was born RosDoh SUE :-[ also.
Neil
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This might be of some use it has some family members.
http://www.mundia.com/au/Search/Results?surname=PULLEN&birthPlace=Australia
Neil
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There are some records held at NSW state records which look related including a probate packet for William Whenham Pullen died 24/9/1953.
http://api.records.nsw.gov.au
regards,
Ros
(I'm lost Neil - which Eva? )
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Hi,
A mention for a Jesse Pullen in Tasmania.
Hobart Town Gazette
GOVERNMENT NOTICE November 27th 1827.
Mr Jesse Pullen to be the District Constable at Green Pounds since Whitfield deceased.
Regards
Gerry
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Sorry Ros, it was Sue who posted the post 1911 birth and I had the death registerd of EVA 1913 but no birthdate. :P
Neil
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Taking you to Tasmania with some of the names mentioned.
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=240873
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1900 Cyclopedia of Tasmania has a mention of Jesse Pullen & family arriving on the "Christiana" in 1822.
Gerry
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Jessie C Goodwin was born in 1908 to parents Edward and Charlotte E in Casino reg #23349/1908
regards,
Ros
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If someone can access this Via Anc...ty then it will open up a bit.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?cj=1&offerid=0:21166:0,0:21318:0&gsfn=Jesse&gsln=Pullen&submit=Find&o_xid=0000195520,33127&o_lid=0000195520,33127&o_sch=External%20Paid%20Media&gl=allgs
Neil
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PULLLEN, EVA. 1913 Bellingen.Reg 1860.
Sue
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Edward Goodwin married Charlotte E Philps in Casino in 1900 reg#1038/1900.
An Edward Goodwin died in Casino in 1929 parents David and Mary A reg# 9272/1929
A Charlotte Eliza Goodwin died in Casino in 1951 parents Edward and Sarah reg# 23149/1951
There is an obit and a death notice for Charlotte in Ryerson Index http://ryersonindex.net/search.php
GOODWIN Charlotte Eliza Obituary 23SEP1951 Death 70 at Coraki, late of McKee's Hill Northern Star (Lismore) 24SEP1951
GOODWIN Charlotte Eliza Funeral notice 24SEP1951 Funeral late of McKee's Hill Northern Star (Lismore) 24SEP1951
regards,
Ros
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NSW ER 1903 COWPER, polling at Holey Flat
Charlott PULLEN, of Pipeclay Creek, domestic duties (there was no ‘e’ for Charlott on this paper copy of the roll)
Erastus PULLEN, of Pipeclay Creek, farmer
Ethel PULLEN, of Pipeclay Creek, domestic duties
John Kingsnorth PULLEN, of Moorland, farmer
Mary PULLEN, of Stewart’s River, domestic duties
Sarah Ann PULLEN of Moorland, domestic duties
Sarah Rachael PULLEN of Stewart’s River, domestic duties
William PULLEN, of Moorland, farmer
Sarah SWAN, of John’s River, domestic duties.
The electorate of Cowper in 1903 went from Tea Gardens to Evans Head. I have not checked ALL the different polling places within that electorate.
Cheers, JM
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It's amazing to read all this info, Thanks to everyone for links at information. Also wondering does anybody have any pictures or links to pictures of any of the Pullens/Goodwins etc?? Apart from Ancrestry.com.au. Thanks again.
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Hi
Your great uncle REGINALD AUSTIN PULLEN died in 1983
From Ryerson Index
PULLEN Reginald Austin
Funeral notice 11MAR1983
Aged 83
late of Lennox Head Northern Star (Lismore)
Published 12MAR1983
He was married to EMILY ADA
REG4365 In 1924 PULLEN REGINALD A to POMROY EMILY A. at MACKSVILLE
She died in 2001
PULLEN Emily Ada Death notice
30JAN2001
Aged 98
Formerly of Barrack Heights
Illawarra Mercury Published 03FEB2001
Acccording to the Electoral Roll--
In 1930 the couple were at Valla and he was a farmer.
In 1949 they were at Clunes, Lismore and he was a storekeeper.
In 1958 the couple were at Rutherford Street Lennox Head, Byron Bay and he was a famer.
This remained their address until 1980 .
Sue
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NSW ER 1913 TENTERFIELD, polling at Tuckurimba.
Charlotte GOODWIN, of Round Hill, domestic duties
Edward GOODWIN, of Round Hill, farmer.
Cheers, JM
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Hi
Your great uncle REGINALD AUSTIN PULLEN died in 1983
From Ryerson Index
PULLEN Reginald Austin
Funeral notice 11MAR1983
Aged 83
late of Lennox Head Northern Star (Lismore)
Published 12MAR1983
He was married to EMILY ADA
REG4365 In 1924 PULLEN REGINALD A to POMROY EMILY A. at MACKSVILLE
She died in 2001
PULLEN Emily Ada Death notice
30JAN2001
Aged 98
Formerly of Barrack Heights
Illawarra Mercury Published 03FEB2001
Acccording to the Electoral Roll--
In 1930 the couple were at Valla and he was a farmer.
In 1949 they were at Clunes, Lismore and he was a storekeeper.
In 1958 the couple were at Rutherford Street Lennox Head, Byron Bay and he was a famer.
This remained their address until 1980 .
Sue
Hello Sue, Thank You for that info, He is my great-great Uncle, talking to my dad atm and he remembers his Mother Margaret Turner (Pullen) talking about going to visit her Uncle Austy (Reginald) and Aunt Ada.
Dad says that Reginald Austin Pullen was also an axeman. We have a photo somewhere in our files of him and some other men all sitting on a big chopped down tree.
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Perhaps you search for the following publication
Cando
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He is my great-great Uncle,
Sorry!
I did indeed omit a great ;)
Sue
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Hi there,
Your DAD should be eligible to apply for NSW BDM dcs where he would expect HIS OWN NAME to be included in the names of children of the deceased, or if he was named as the informant, even where their NSW deaths occurred less than 30 years ago. Where the deaths occurred more than 30 years ago, those records are now public records, so anyone can apply.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/OurForms.htm
NSW BDM regulations restrict access to
birth records where the births were less than 100 years ago
marriage records where the marriages were less than 50 years ago
death records where the deaths were less than 30 years ago
In general terms, if you know you are named on a restricted record, you are eligible to apply for access.
Cheers, JM
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Perhaps you search for the following publication
Cando
Thank You, he is my Dad's great-great grandfather. So my great-great-great grandfather. Absolutely amazing to read it all.
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More live ammo on the family.
http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/individual.php?pid=I35630&ged=Gregory-Hudson.ged
Neil
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More live ammo on the family.
http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/individual.php?pid=I35630&ged=Gregory-Hudson.ged
Neil
Thanks Neil, Without sounding abit dumb, by this research does that mean the Pullen family originally come from England? As both of John Kingsnorth Pullen's parents come from England, United Kingdom? Well married there so I'm assuming they lived there.
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Burial John Kingsnorth Pullen.
Woronora (Neils private Cemetery) Sutherland Sydney.Bad Joke :-[
PULLEN JOHN Burial PRIMITIVE METHODIST - SECTION DD - 0011 31/10/1906
Neil
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Perhaps you search for the following publication
Cando
Thank You, he is my Dad's great-great grandfather. So my great-great-great grandfather. Absolutely amazing to read it all.
To me, this is what RChat is all about, sharing and helping and finding clues to help each of us with our own family history.
Cheers, JM (I sometimes think that Rookwood Cemetery could well be my forebears own private cemetery, as so many of them went there regularly during their own lifetimes, and then later, were buried or cremated there, or their names added to headstones for their relatives.)
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Hi, Yes the family started life out here from English
Rotts[/s] :-[whoops roots like so many others.
Jesse the original! I wish someone could open that Doc I noted on reply 16. It obviously has more on your Pullen Roots in England.
Neil
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A question my father is very interested in is, Does anybody know what ethnicity the Pullen family is. Dad's always wondered as his mother and his aunty's (father was Thomas Warrick Pullen) all had jetblack hair.
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There is a lovely long biography of Jesse Pullen on a tree on ancestry (which I think is what you mean Neil)
Jesse Pullen baptised 5 April 1795 to parents William Pullen and Sarah Pullen (nee Wills) in Kentish village of Chilham
Jesse married Harriett Kingsnorth in Margate 20 oct 1818 at St john's. After birth of Mary Ann in 1819 and George in 1821 they decided to emigrate ...
regards,
Ros
Adding William Pullen 1764-1843 and Sarah Wills 1769-1846 both born and died in Chilham Kent
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Erastus Pullen was a violin-maker of renown
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/158247864?l-australian=y&q=%22erastus+pullen%22~3&c=picture&versionId=172490051
regards,
Ros
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Reading through I've realised I have missed one link. John Kingsnorth Pullen who Married Charlotte Whenham/Wenham, there son William Wenham Pullen married Mary Swan and one of there sons William John Pullen married Mary Elizabeth Pullen (born Mcgrath). There son Thomas Warrick Pullen is my dad's grandfather. So Now John Kingsnorth Pullen is my dad's great-great-great grandfather and he is my g-g-g-g-grandfather.
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Erastus Pullen was a violin-maker of renown
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/158247864?l-australian=y&q=%22erastus+pullen%22~3&c=picture&versionId=172490051
regards,
Ros
Was Erastus Pullen married to Sarah Ann Bray??
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Erastus Pullen was a violin-maker of renown
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/158247864?l-australian=y&q=%22erastus+pullen%22~3&c=picture&versionId=172490051
regards,
Ros
PULLEN, Erastus (1868-1937) Won the Harmony Trophy in an amateur violin
making competition in 1934
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Erastus Pullen & Sarah A Bray
Married, NSW 1919.
Reg place: Rockdale, NSW.
Reg: 1919/1442
Gerry
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I like the reference to the Jet Black Hair. That is what got me started on Genealogy quite a few years back. One particular line in my family has carried the same gene for centuries and it has always resulted in Black hair and very dark Brown eyes. This has variously been referred to as Spanish, European, African.
Hmm well I thought that was strange, Scottish was the supposed ancestors home. I have now gone back to the mid 1200's with the family and they lived in the border counties of N/E England. Although throughout the centuries many have moved about England and then throughout the world.
A DNA test revealed Celtic origin and through that early Celtic migrations from Moorish origins. So they were accidentally right, UK, Spain, Europe, Nth Africa.
Hmm so that's where my Black hair and Brown eyes comes from, probably yours too. ;D Not much Norman Blood in me, yet my brothers were all born with Blondie hair and fair eyes and don't have the same gene.........No it wasn't the milkman. :o Just a freak of nature. 8)
Neil
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There is a lovely long biography of Jesse Pullen on a tree on ancestry (which I think is what you mean Neil)
Jesse Pullen baptised 5 April 1795 to parents William Pullen and Sarah Pullen (nee Wills) in Kentish village of Chilham
Jesse married Harriett Kingsnorth in Margate 20 oct 1818 at St john's. After birth of Mary Ann in 1819 and George in 1821 they decided to emigrate ...
regards,
Ros
Adding William Pullen 1764-1843 and Sarah Wills 1769-1846 both born and died in Chilham Kent
I have also found
William Pullen 1764-1843 has parents Robert Pullen 1724-1791 - Mary Frost 1730-1797
Sarah Wills has parents William/s Wylls/Wills 1731-1801 - Mary Burchett 1729-1800
I've researched they're children which does date back to William Pullen whos son was Jesse Pullen.
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I like the reference to the Jet Black Hair. That is what got me started on Genealogy quite a few years back. One particular line in my family has carried the same gene for centuries and it has always resulted in Black hair and very dark Brown eyes. This has variously been referred to as Spanish, European, African.
Hmm well I thought that was strange, Scottish was the supposed ancestors home. I have now gone back to the mid 1200's with the family and they lived in the border counties of N/E England. Although throughout the centuries many have moved about England and then throughout the world.
A DNA test revealed Celtic origin and through that early Celtic migrations from Moorish origins. So they were accidentally right, UK, Spain, Europe, Nth Africa.
Hmm so that's where my Black hair and Brown eyes comes from, probably yours too. ;D Not much Norman Blood in me, yet my brothers were all born with Blondie hair and fair eyes and don't have the same gene.........No it wasn't the milkman. :o Just a freak of nature. 8)
Neil
Thanks for all that information It's amazing, All on dad's mums side they have it, My sister has jetblack hair (when its not dyed). Dad has it, my nan has it and all of her siblings had jetblack hair, uncertain on the eyes, as we only know my sister and nan had blue eyes, and unsure on her siblings they're all deceased. But It's amazing to think they date back to the 1200's.
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Hmm Well a long, long time before the 1200's actually. But that's as far as I can see any reference to my family. Two woodcutters in the Black Forests of Durham. They were employed by the Bishop of Durham to cut and prepare wood for him. 1268 AD. Our name is of Celtic origin Todd meaning Fox!
The Celts settled in UK and intermingled see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts
Somewhere between 1000 to 450 BC depending on what variety and they mixed with the Britons. Later invasions from the Norsemen altered the mix. I don't know about you but I found the whole thing fascinating and brought to life my ancient history lessons from long ago school days.
You will find that people in Britain moved around much more than we normally envisioned, wars, famines, diseases, work all played a part.
You can just Google things up now, surprising what you might find.
You will find this interesting:
http://www.lynehamvillage.com/history/bygones/pullen.html
Neil ;D
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I Find it absolutely fasinating, Thanks for the links Neil that is amazing stuff to read, I've also found a couple of links which have led me to trace back as far as my 9th great grandparents, though I'm still searching for more. They were mid 1660's there's still a long way to go. But Not a few days ago not knowing much about our family to now having all this info just fasinates me. I love all that old school ancient ancestry history sort of stuff.
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Hi
I came across this thread while researching Jesse Pullen (1795-1871) my 1st cousin 5 times removed. I have no idea if anyone will read this 7 years after the original post was made but I thought I would share our connection anyway.
My great great grandmother was Harriet Pullen Wills and for years I had wondered where her name had come from as, as far as I knew I did not have any Pullen ancestors. I don't but we do share a rather entangled tree.
Jesse Pullen's maternal grandfather is my 5xGGF William Wills who married twice so we don't share his maternal grandmother's line but his mother is my 5xgreat aunt who married William Pullen my 1st cousin 6x removed. William Pullen's mother was Mary Frost my 6xgreat aunt. Which means Jesse Pullen and I also share John Frost (1698 to 1769) and Mary Weestbach (1705-?) as common ancestors.
I attempted to attached my 4xGGF James Wills's (Sarah Will's half brother) tree so you can see the overlap with Jesse's tree but the files were too big so if you would like to see it to what I have so far please give a shout. I have some way to go to completing his full set of 16 GGGP but I hopefully what I do have so far might be helpful to someone out there.
So it turns out my great great grandmother was named after Jesse Pullens sister, Harriet Pullen, her 1st cousins 1 time removed.
Happy researching
All the best
Diane