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Title: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: geoffreyhyoung on Saturday 07 July 12 15:22 BST (UK)

I could do with a little help on my Mitchell/Michell ancestors from Perranuthnoe who I have been tracing through Parish records. My last certain ancestor is Henry born 1736 to John and Mary who were married in 1722. Which John is open to question as there were two baptised at Perranuthnoe that would fit. One in 1704 and one 1700 which is my guess given the marriage date. John's father was Thomas born 1673 and his father Tobias. here the trail runs out as there is no Tobias or Michell in Perranuthnoe that I can find before 1664. Tobias was married to Elinor Dielaragetto in 1665. Does it mean that he came from another Parish? On the IGI there is one Tobias Mitchell from Gwinear born around 1642. If anyone couls help with these problems or point me in the right direction i would be grateful.
Kind Regards
Geoff
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 07 July 12 16:03 BST (UK)
Duplicate post

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,605361.msg4549123.html#msg4549123
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: osprey on Saturday 07 July 12 18:27 BST (UK)
do you have the 1751 will of John Michell, yeoman of Perranuthnoe ref AP/M/2 ? If it mentions siblings it may help to work out which family is which.

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=14713   for info on getting on a copy.
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: geoffreyhyoung on Sunday 08 July 12 10:28 BST (UK)
Thanks for that. Will look that up and see if i can get a copy. Unfortunately I dont think it would tell me which John Michell it is.
Have deleted my entry in general and issued an apology. I put it in the wrong section.
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: osprey on Sunday 08 July 12 12:19 BST (UK)
it would tell you who he left bequests to and you could work out a picture of the family from that. Family names may help. You need more than just parish entries to cope with common names like John Mitchell.
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: geoffreyhyoung on Sunday 08 July 12 15:57 BST (UK)
The strange thing is there are no John Michells that I can find buried in parish records around 1751 in Perranuthnoe or surrounding parishes?
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: osprey on Sunday 08 July 12 16:47 BST (UK)
he could have died away from home and been buried there. The will is in the record office index, so it refers to someone.
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: geoffreyhyoung on Monday 09 July 12 11:56 BST (UK)
What is the best place to look for Cornwall parish burials. The IGI dont seem to have many
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 10 July 12 09:58 BST (UK)
The updated FamilySearch has scans of some parish records

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://www.familysearch.org/searchapi/search/collection/1769414

There are transcriptions of some records are available on the opc database, coverage isn't complete.
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/ 

Or it could be that the burial was in a parish where the register is illegible or missing.
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: geoffreyhyoung on Tuesday 10 July 12 11:04 BST (UK)
I have used the OPC and parish records from family search for the Perranuthnoe area. I will have to widen my search. Think that I will have to ring the record office and order the will document.
Have you any thoughts on the earlier Michells(Tobias ...)?
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 11 July 12 10:05 BST (UK)
you'll need to use the form on the link I gave you as the office will need your signature on the copyright form.

Survival and legibility of 17th century parish records is a problem and then there's the disruption caused by the Civil War, so getting back before that might not be possible. Have you looked at the other records on the opc database? The Hearth Tax of 1884 is there and the Protestation Retruns from 1641, not sure that all parishes have been transcribed though.
Title: Re: Perranuthnoe Mic(t)ells
Post by: geoffreyhyoung on Thursday 12 July 12 16:52 BST (UK)
did do a person search for Tobias Mi(t)chell and nothing in the protestation or hearth tax. You are probably right about the Civil war/Commonwealth period but I can't find any Michells pre that time in the Perranuthnoe parish records so probably they did come from elsewhere.