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Title: Griffiths marriage mystery
Post by: Summercloud on Thursday 05 July 12 19:22 BST (UK)

Trying to find a marriage between John Joseph Griffiths b. 19/7/1802 Sheerness and Mary Ann (don't know surname) b. C1805 (don't know where).

Their 1st child Margaret, was born C1828 (don't know where).  Other children were born in Staines, Middlesex in 1831, Chesham, Buckinghamshire in 1835 and Poplar, London in 1837 and 1840.  Mary Ann appears on the 1841 census living with her family in Poplar.  She was not born in the county. She died in 1843.

Can anyone help to locate a marriage record for them?  John was working as a Mason in Staines.  I suspect that they married either in Staines or Sheerness.

Thanks, Viv.

Title: Re: Griffiths marriage mystery
Post by: jennifer c on Thursday 05 July 12 23:07 BST (UK)

1851 census Sandsend Lythe Yorkshire

John Griffiths 48 Cement manufactures agent emp. 4 men born Sheerness Kent
Mary 42 Northfleet Kent
Emma 20 Staines
Elizabeth 14 Poplar

Jennifer

Title: Re: Griffiths marriage mystery
Post by: jennifer c on Thursday 05 July 12 23:14 BST (UK)

1861 census Sandsend Village Lythe

John J Griffiths 58 Cement manufacturer Sheerness kent
Marian 53 Northfleet Kent
plus 1 serv.

Jennifer

Title: Re: Griffiths marriage mystery
Post by: jennifer c on Thursday 05 July 12 23:26 BST (UK)

Charles Thomas Griffiths born 4/4/1840 bapt. 3/5/1840 parents John & Mary occ. Miller address Poplar
St.Anne Limehouse

1851 Nineteen Lands Lythe Yorkshire
Henry William Siggs 30 Head Game keeper born Witham Essex
Mary 26 York Yorkshire
Charles Griffiths 12 visitor born Staines
Mary Kidd Serv.

Jennifer

Title: Re: Griffiths marriage mystery
Post by: Summercloud on Friday 06 July 12 11:23 BST (UK)

Quote from: jennifer c on Thursday 05 July 12 23:26 BST (UK)

Charles Thomas Griffiths born 4/4/1840 bapt. 3/5/1840 parents John & Mary occ. Miller address Poplar
St.Anne Limehouse

1851 Nineteen Lands Lythe Yorkshire
Henry William Siggs 30 Head Game keeper born Witham Essex
Mary 26 York Yorkshire
Charles Griffiths 12 visitor born Staines
Mary Kidd Serv.

Jennifer

Thanks Jennifer, yes you are onto the right family.  John Joseph Griffiths was working as a Miller in a cement factory in Poplar before he moved to Sandsend, Yorkshire to work as a Cement Manufacturer.  The Mary Ann/ Marion in the 1851 & 1861 census is his second wife.  he married Mary Ann Grout nee Eling on 4/6/1843 at St. Mary's Church, Bow.  She was also a widow.  Mary Ann Eling was baptised at St. Botolph's Church, Northfleet on 21/2/1808.

John Joseph's 1st wife was also named Mary Ann.  She appears on the 1841 census but I'm struggling to find out more information about her.

Thanks for trying,
Viv.

Title: Re: Griffiths marriage mystery
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 06 July 12 17:23 BST (UK)

Burial 12/2/1843 All Saints Poplar Mary Griffiths aged 38

Jennifer

Title: Re: Griffiths marriage mystery
Post by: Summercloud on Saturday 07 July 12 09:58 BST (UK)

Quote from: jennifer c on Friday 06 July 12 17:23 BST (UK)

Burial 12/2/1843 All Saints Poplar Mary Griffiths aged 38

Jennifer

Thanks Jennifer, I too believe that this is John's 1st wife.  Any ideas about their marriage?

Viv.